Should our Constitution's 2nd Amendment be amended ... ?

[LOki]

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

That's no reason everyone else should be prohibited.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

Indeed. It's terribly unfortunate that the superstitious insist that everyone's rights have no rational basis; no foundation in reality.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

If rights can be taken away by God, then they're not rights.

False. The concept of Right is relevant only to human behavior and interaction between humans. There are no rights before God.

 

[danielpalos]

Natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... For instance, the musket was once the state of the art military firearm. We could also compare the cross bow, or the long sword... with the musket... with the state of the art service rifle.

You argument is foolish. But no doubt it gets many nods of assurance where you live.

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

And if you can't be trusted with a Nuclear Warhead, you can't be trusted: PERIOD.

And absent trust, you are not suited to live among free people.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

I see... and that explains why you are unworthy of trust.

What you are also incapable of understanding, is that while you are unworthy of trust, because you lack the means to trust others, your disordered mental state, also provides that you've no right to your life and anyone who finds your life to be an inconvenience, is entitled to squelch such, with impunity.

It's quite a paradox, which sadly, falls well beyond you limited intellectual means... but it falls beyond the means of any and all Relativists. Which is why you creatures are a menace to society, on the whole and why you fuck up everything on which you have the slightest influence.

 

[Mudda]

... For instance, the musket was once the state of the art military firearm. We could also compare the cross bow, or the long sword... with the musket... with the state of the art service rifle.

You argument is foolish. But no doubt it gets many nods of assurance where you live.

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

And if you can't be trusted with a Nuclear Warhead, you can't be trusted: PERIOD.

And absent trust, you are not suited to live among free people.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

I see... and that explains why you are unworthy of trust.

What you are also incapable of understanding, is that while you are unworthy of trust, because you lack the means to trust others, your disordered mental state, also provides that you've no right to your life and anyone who finds your life to be an inconvenience, is entitled to squelch such, with impunity.

It's quite a paradox, which sadly, falls well beyond you limited intellectual means... but it falls beyond the means of any and all Relativists. Which is why you creatures are a menace to society, on the whole and why you fuck up everything on which you have the slightest influence.

Even the Founding Fathers knew the Constitution might have to change with the times. Article Five of the Constitution spells it out: "The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." States were also given a chance to propose changes, or amendments. Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.

In the past 200 years, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. What's one more change?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

That's no reason everyone else should be prohibited.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

Indeed. It's terribly unfortunate that the superstitious insist that everyone's rights have no rational basis; no foundation in reality.

The rational basis for human rights is that God endows such. And where God endows such, no man is entitled to infringe upon or usurp such, as each individual is endowed with precisely the same rights. With this being the basis that all men are created equal. With the equality being limited exclusively to the relationship between them... AND GOD!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

... For instance, the musket was once the state of the art military firearm. We could also compare the cross bow, or the long sword... with the musket... with the state of the art service rifle.

You argument is foolish. But no doubt it gets many nods of assurance where you live.

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

And if you can't be trusted with a Nuclear Warhead, you can't be trusted: PERIOD.

And absent trust, you are not suited to live among free people.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

I see... and that explains why you are unworthy of trust.

What you are also incapable of understanding, is that while you are unworthy of trust, because you lack the means to trust others, your disordered mental state, also provides that you've no right to your life and anyone who finds your life to be an inconvenience, is entitled to squelch such, with impunity.

It's quite a paradox, which sadly, falls well beyond you limited intellectual means... but it falls beyond the means of any and all Relativists. Which is why you creatures are a menace to society, on the whole and why you fuck up everything on which you have the slightest influence.

Even the Founding Fathers knew the Constitution might have to change with the times. Article Five of the Constitution spells it out: "The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." States were also given a chance to propose changes, or amendments. Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.

In the past 200 years, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. What's one more change?

Sure. You do realize that there's no one here contesting that would-be point, right?

The issue here is not the Rules, but the principles; or laws of nature, upon which the rules, rest.

And with regard to those principles... they are immutable... timeless and impervious to change.

 

[Mudda]

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

That's no reason everyone else should be prohibited.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

Indeed. It's terribly unfortunate that the superstitious insist that everyone's rights have no rational basis; no foundation in reality.

The rational basis for human rights is that God endows such. And where God endows such, no man is entitled to infringe upon or usurp such, as each individual is endowed with precisely the same rights. With this being the basis that all men are created equal. With the equality being limited exclusively to the relationship between them... AND GOD!

So god endows you with the human right to possess a killing machine?

 

[Mudda]

... For instance, the musket was once the state of the art military firearm. We could also compare the cross bow, or the long sword... with the musket... with the state of the art service rifle.

You argument is foolish. But no doubt it gets many nods of assurance where you live.

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

And if you can't be trusted with a Nuclear Warhead, you can't be trusted: PERIOD.

And absent trust, you are not suited to live among free people.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

I see... and that explains why you are unworthy of trust.

What you are also incapable of understanding, is that while you are unworthy of trust, because you lack the means to trust others, your disordered mental state, also provides that you've no right to your life and anyone who finds your life to be an inconvenience, is entitled to squelch such, with impunity.

It's quite a paradox, which sadly, falls well beyond you limited intellectual means... but it falls beyond the means of any and all Relativists. Which is why you creatures are a menace to society, on the whole and why you fuck up everything on which you have the slightest influence.

Even the Founding Fathers knew the Constitution might have to change with the times. Article Five of the Constitution spells it out: "The Congress, whenever two-thirds of both Houses [the House and the Senate] shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution . . ." States were also given a chance to propose changes, or amendments. Three-fourths of the states have to approve the amendment for it to become law.

In the past 200 years, the Constitution has been amended 27 times. What's one more change?

Sure. You do realize that there's no one here contesting that would-be point, right?

The issue here is not the Rules, but the principles; or laws of nature, upon which the rules, rest.

And with regard to those principles... they are immutable... timeless and impervious to change.

Everything changes over time, it's a fact of nature. Now you know.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So god endows you with the human right to possess a killing machine?

Yes. Yes he does.

You see scamp, within humanity is the means to make choices. One is free to recognize, respect, defend and adhere to God's law, or to turn from God, rejecting his law; which intrinsically comes with the consequence of the usurpation of the rights of others, who's right(s) were granted by God.

This requires those who recognize God's law, to destroy the threat to their God-given rights, with this being their first responsibility, in sustaining the means to exercise those rights.

LOL! Try to understand that these are American principles... and with you being an individual who is mired in foreign ideas hostile to American Principle... who operates upon the species of reasoning OKA: Relativism, you likely lack the intellectual means to understand... due to your stark limitations with regard to reason.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Everything changes over time, it's a fact of nature. Now you know.

No... everything does not change over time. And if you had the slightest understanding of time... you'd understand why that is.

 

[Mudda]

So god endows you with the human right to possess a killing machine?

Yes. Yes he does.

You see scamp, within humanity is the means to make choices. One is free to recognize, respect, defend and adhere to God's law, or to turn from God, rejecting his law; which intrinsically comes with the consequence of the usurpation of the rights of others, who's right(s) were granted by God.

This requires those who recognize God's law, to destroy the threat to their God-given rights, with this being their first responsibility, in sustaining the means to exercise those rights.

LOL! Try to understand that these are American principles... and with you being an individual who is mired in foreign ideas hostile to American Principle... who operates upon the species of reasoning OKA: Relativism, you likely lack the intellectual means to understand... due to your stark limitations with regard to reason.

You suffer from delusions if you think that an invisible superbeing endowed you with anything, with touches of paranoia if you think your invisible friend endowed you with the right to have a killing machine.

 

[Mudda]

Everything changes over time, it's a fact of nature. Now you know.

No... everything does not change over time. And if you had the slightest understanding of time... you'd understand why that is.

So what doesn't change over time? The bible? Nope, changed many, many times. The constitution? Nope, changed 27 times. So what doesn't change, well, aside from your underwear.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You suffer from delusions if you think that an invisible superbeing endowed you with anything...

Ah... so you're working on the premise that your senses are capable of sensing all that exist in the universe?

Interesting... . Will you snap a photo of the next quark that passes through you?

If that's not possible, please snap a recording of what gravity sound like... .

Can't do that, then offer me an explanation for the consequences, wherein an individual chooses to satisfy their every immediate whim, only to find that their life is unsatisfying?

You can't see, taste, hear or touch ANY of those realities... yet each are an immutable fact of nature.

So tell me now about why it is that these invisible realities exist, and you're
here demanding that if something is beyond the scope of human senses, that it cannot exist?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

So what doesn't change over time? The bible? Nope, changed many, many times. The constitution? Nope, changed 27 times. So what doesn't change, well, aside from your underwear.

Natural law does not change, as natural law is not relevant to time. Again... if you had the slightest understanding of what time is... you wouldn't be prone to these humiliating spasms of hysteria.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Founding Fathers did an most excellent job at the convention with our supreme law of the land and federal Constitution.

They thought of every Thing; and said so in Article the Sixth.

 

[LOki]

If rights can be taken away by God, then they're not rights.

False. The concept of Right is relevant only to human behavior and interaction between humans. There are no rights before God.

God is irrelevant to the concept of rights.

The reality of rights is in no way contingent upon the superstions of men; that are only used as rationaliations for the deprivations of other people's rights.

 

[LOki]

A drone and a nuclear weapon are also state of the art. Me owning either is not a good idea.

That's no reason everyone else should be prohibited.

As for god-given rights, there is no such thing....

Indeed. It's terribly unfortunate that the superstitious insist that everyone's rights have no rational basis; no foundation in reality.

The rational basis for human rights is that God endows such.

Superstitious nonsense.

And where God endows such, no man is entitled to infringe upon or usurp such, as each individual is endowed with precisely the same rights.

No man but the sanctimonious keeper of the superstition, you mean. The one who decides who is worthy and who is not; who is chosen, and who is not; who is saved, and who is not.

[With this being the basis that all men are created equal. With the equality being limited exclusively to the relationship between them... AND GOD!

Ah. The basis you propose is pure superstition; and it's meaningless for all the OBVIOUS reasons.

 

[LOki]

So god endows you with the human right to possess a killing machine?

Yes. Yes he does.

You see scamp, within humanity is the means to make choices. One is free to recognize, respect, defend and adhere to God's law, or to turn from God, rejecting his law; which intrinsically comes with the consequence of the usurpation of the rights of others, who's right(s) were granted by God.

This requires those who recognize God's law, to destroy the threat to their God-given rights, with this being their first responsibility, in sustaining the means to exercise those rights.

LOL! Try to understand that these are American principles... and with you being an individual who is mired in foreign ideas hostile to American Principle... who operates upon the species of reasoning OKA: Relativism, you likely lack the intellectual means to understand... due to your stark limitations with regard to reason.

Pure superstition.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

God is irrelevant to the concept of rights.

The reality of rights is in no way contingent upon the superstions of men; that are only used as rationaliations for the deprivations of other people's rights.

Rationalizations are irrelevant to tangential reality. As a rationalization is a feckless means to turn from the tangent, in search of an easier way.

Absent God, there are no human rights. Absent human rights, there is no governance that is not slavery, absent self governance, humanity is merely livestock and society a slaughterhouse.

ROFLMNAO!

Now... the Founding Fathers reasoned America.., founded upon the laws of nature wherein the individual was sovereign and responsible for their own well being, this resulted in the single most prosperous, influential nation in the history of humanity; freeing more human beings from bondage than all other previous and existing nations on earth.

YOUR THESIS is the tyranny from which the Founders FREED US.

See how that works?