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We currently own 56,961,778 acres in Nevada
I would be willing to sell it to the state for $1000 an acre or $57 Billion
Seems like a fair price
Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts.
Did they test nukes in Massaschusetts?
I am pretty sure the federal government can't test a nuke on private property or in heavily populated areas. There's probably some really stupid rule against it written down somewhere.
And if you are going to fly sooper sekrit sparemental aeroplanes around, New York City isn't exactly the place to do it. It would be hard to keep it a secret if you are buzzing Manhattan. You need a place like Area 51.
Cows don't talk.
Yes they do, to each other, they're very clannish...
well it's no surprise that lefties have steered clear of this thread....
(hee hee i said 'steer'...)
of course lefties do not want to even acknowledge the Constitution...
the Bundy issue basically boils down to....is it really Nevada land or is it Federal land....?
according to the Constitution the Feds are not supposed to own it....but what will the EPA and all the other Federal bloodsuckers do then....?
what....give up their power....?!
well it's no surprise that lefties have steered clear of this thread....
(hee hee i said 'steer'...)
of course lefties do not want to even acknowledge the Constitution...
the Bundy issue basically boils down to....is it really Nevada land or is it Federal land....?
according to the Constitution the Feds are not supposed to own it....but what will the EPA and all the other Federal bloodsuckers do then....?
what....give up their power....?!
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal government’s, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isn’t Nevada’s alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: “and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.”
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Have you ever been to Nevada? The reason over 80% of the land is federally run (the federal govt doesn't OWN Nevada; Marvin Adelson would never tolerate that) is because nobody wanted it. It's largely uninhabitable due to lack of water. Can't farm it and you can't ranch it. And you damn better fill up your tank before you leave out of Reno and say, try to drive to Tonopah, for instance.
Here, this ought to help, the Homestead Act of 1862. Enjoy. Migrants passed on Nevada for literally, greener pastures.
Homestead Act
Homestead Act: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress)
Signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln on May 20, 1862, the Homestead Act encouraged Western migration by providing settlers 160 acres of public land. In exchange, homesteaders paid a small filing fee and were required to complete five years of continuous residence before receiving ownership of the land. After six months of residency, homesteaders also had the option of purchasing the land from the government for $1.25 per acre. The Homestead Act led to the distribution of 80 million acres of public land by 1900.
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Nevada was won by the US after the Mexican American war.
You want to give it back?
I think you'd be in the minority on that one.
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Have you ever been to Nevada? The reason over 80% of the land is federally run (the federal govt doesn't OWN Nevada; Marvin Adelson would never tolerate that) is because nobody wanted it. It's largely uninhabitable due to lack of water. Can't farm it and you can't ranch it. And you damn better fill up your tank before you leave out of Reno and say, try to drive to Tonopah, for instance.
Here, this ought to help, the Homestead Act of 1862. Enjoy. Migrants passed on Nevada for literally, greener pastures.
Homestead Act
Homestead Act: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress)
Signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln on May 20, 1862, the Homestead Act encouraged Western migration by providing settlers 160 acres of public land. In exchange, homesteaders paid a small filing fee and were required to complete five years of continuous residence before receiving ownership of the land. After six months of residency, homesteaders also had the option of purchasing the land from the government for $1.25 per acre. The Homestead Act led to the distribution of 80 million acres of public land by 1900.
well that's all fine and dandy but shouldn't a state own the land within its own boundaries...when it becomes a state...?
especially since the U.S. Constitution specifies limited lands for federal purposes....?
Did they test nukes in Massaschusetts?
I am pretty sure the federal government can't test a nuke on private property or in heavily populated areas. There's probably some really stupid rule against it written down somewhere.
And if you are going to fly sooper sekrit sparemental aeroplanes around, New York City isn't exactly the place to do it. It would be hard to keep it a secret if you are buzzing Manhattan. You need a place like Area 51.
Cows don't talk.
Yes they do, to each other, they're very clannish...
Have you ever been to Nevada? The reason over 80% of the land is federally run (the federal govt doesn't OWN Nevada; Marvin Adelson would never tolerate that) is because nobody wanted it. It's largely uninhabitable due to lack of water. Can't farm it and you can't ranch it. And you damn better fill up your tank before you leave out of Reno and say, try to drive to Tonopah, for instance.
Here, this ought to help, the Homestead Act of 1862. Enjoy. Migrants passed on Nevada for literally, greener pastures.
Homestead Act
Homestead Act: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress)
Signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln on May 20, 1862, the Homestead Act encouraged Western migration by providing settlers 160 acres of public land. In exchange, homesteaders paid a small filing fee and were required to complete five years of continuous residence before receiving ownership of the land. After six months of residency, homesteaders also had the option of purchasing the land from the government for $1.25 per acre. The Homestead Act led to the distribution of 80 million acres of public land by 1900.
well that's all fine and dandy but shouldn't a state own the land within its own boundaries...when it becomes a state...?
especially since the U.S. Constitution specifies limited lands for federal purposes....?
You mean like Indian reservations and national parks? Nevada could never afford to sustain land for such purposes much less develop them.
If it wasn't for Las Vegas and I-80 nobody would be there. If the drought continues then nobody will be there again.
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Any new acquisition of state property, outside the capital that the federal government does not own, has to be purchased.
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Any new acquisition of state property, outside the capital that the federal government does not own, has to be purchased.
are you saying the Feds owe Nevada....?
The most important question with respect to the Bundy Ranch Standoff remains unanswered. Why does the federal government own Nevada? It does not own New York or Virginia or Massachusetts. Cliven Bundy says that the state of Nevada owns the contested land. The Bureau of Land Management clearly considers the property the federal governments, hence the 200 snipers posted on the property and the tasing of the Bundys for resisting when the feds confiscated their cattle. Who is right?
But the problem isnt Nevadas alone. The percentage of land owned by government exceeds fifty percent in Alaska (98.5), Idaho (63.8), Oregon (52.6), and Utah (63.6). Indeed, the federal government claims to own a third of all the landmass in the United States (Inventory Report on Real Property Owned by the United States Throughout the World, published by the General Services Administration, page 10). Government owns almost half of California (47.5). Basically the federal government did not give western states all their land when they qualified for statehood. States were so excited to get coveted statehood that they went along with the conditions despite the confiscation of, for most in the West, at least a third of their land.
But this is not the most serious violation of the Constitution. The Founders understood that the size of land holding was proportionally related to the perceived size of the federal government and they intentionally wanted that perception small. The Federal government was permitted to have but 10 square miles for a federal capital. The only other land that they could acquire had to be for military purposes as specified in the common defense clause of the Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which reads: and to exercise like Authority over all places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the same shall be for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock Yards, and other needful Buildings.
Any new acquisition, outside the capital, had (1) to be purchased, (2) have the consent of the State Legislature where the land exists, (3) and be for military purposes.
cont.
Does the Federal Government own Nevada? | The Tribune Papers
Have you ever been to Nevada? The reason over 80% of the land is federally run (the federal govt doesn't OWN Nevada; Marvin Adelson would never tolerate that) is because nobody wanted it. It's largely uninhabitable due to lack of water. Can't farm it and you can't ranch it. And you damn better fill up your tank before you leave out of Reno and say, try to drive to Tonopah, for instance.
Here, this ought to help, the Homestead Act of 1862. Enjoy. Migrants passed on Nevada for literally, greener pastures.
Homestead Act
Homestead Act: Primary Documents of American History (Virtual Programs & Services, Library of Congress)
Signed into law by President Abraham Lincoln on May 20, 1862, the Homestead Act encouraged Western migration by providing settlers 160 acres of public land. In exchange, homesteaders paid a small filing fee and were required to complete five years of continuous residence before receiving ownership of the land. After six months of residency, homesteaders also had the option of purchasing the land from the government for $1.25 per acre. The Homestead Act led to the distribution of 80 million acres of public land by 1900.
well that's all fine and dandy but shouldn't a state own the land within its own boundaries...when it becomes a state...?
especially since the U.S. Constitution specifies limited lands for federal purposes....?
Any new acquisition of state property, outside the capital that the federal government does not own, has to be purchased.
are you saying the Feds owe Nevada....?
No, I am saying that if the federal government wants more land than it now owns it must purchase the land according to Article one Section eight, clause 17 of the US Constitution.
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--
I was not kidding about making Nevada a giant solar farm.
We could also bury all our nukelar waste there in...sayyyyyy...Yucca Mountain...
Wind farms. We could put trillions of windmills there. No one to complain about the noise or the scenery being ruined.
Solar, wind, nuclear. Side by side on my piano keyboard.
Buffalo could roam. Tortoises and Sasquatch could live unmolested by urban smog or raging racist cowboys, using the solar mirrors for shade.
Someday humanity is going to recognize my visionary brilliance.
