Should The Government Cut Back On Welfare Benefits or Should They Be More Generous?

[Wyatt earp]

China is the bread and butter of NK and what ever China dictates, NK follows.......

Nope. China would sure like it if that were the case, but it's not. North Korea is a giant pain in the ass for China.

He improved it for the states that didn't vote for him.... I always thought that was hilarious the left always praises his job creation numbers then crys about no jobs in the cities

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

So says the non-millionaire...

Never wanted it, just like you pal who gave up a 6 figure income owning a business

 

[Moonglow]

I stopped thanks to Bush doing nothing about the illegal invasion and greedy builders...Foreign nations have no issue with building brick and mortar stores in the US.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I stopped thanks to Bush doing nothing about the illegal invasion and greedy builders...Foreign nations have no issue with building brick and mortar stores in the US.

Wow so you going to vote for Trump?

How fascinating ... Welcome aboard the Trump train

 

[danielpalos]

But I thought you said obama was doing great at stimulating the job market?
So which is it,obama fucked up the job market or he improved it?

He improved it for the states that didn't vote for him.... I always thought that was hilarious the left always praises his job creation numbers then crys about no jobs in the cities

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

Capital gains is a tax that brings in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourages people to invest.

Remember that not all investments create jobs either. A business can invest in a huge warehouse, but only create about three or four jobs for the people that are going to operate that warehouse. Or they may invest in robotics or machinery that requires few if any employees to run them.

Right now there are McDonald's restaurants that are investing in automation in an attempt to have an employee-less store. Sure, there may be a few people there to oversee the operations, but now you have to push buttons on a keypad for what you want and your hamburger is going to be made by machines on an assembly line.

A tax break on investment to create jobs for the People is Only legitimate social reason for the capital gains distinction.

 

[PredFan]

Begging the question. They aren't benefits, they are handouts

Take it up with the OP

Why, you gave your manhood to the OP?

How does being born in our society mean you merit handouts?

Do you take a deduction.....I mean handout on your children as dependents?

How about your mortgage handout

It isn't a handout, it's our money.

You writing your children off on your taxes is as much a handout as a welfare mother gets.

Why should others pay to support your children or your mortgage?

How fucking stupid are you exactly? It isn't even close to the same thing. Me getting to keep more of the money I EARNED isn't the same as someone getting money that they DIDN'T EARN.

Educate yourself retard.

 

[danielpalos]

But I thought you said obama was doing great at stimulating the job market?
So which is it,obama fucked up the job market or he improved it?

He improved it for the states that didn't vote for him.... I always thought that was hilarious the left always praises his job creation numbers then crys about no jobs in the cities

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

 

[Wyatt earp]

He improved it for the states that didn't vote for him.... I always thought that was hilarious the left always praises his job creation numbers then crys about no jobs in the cities

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

 

[danielpalos]

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Post statements of stocks

You can wipe out details....

Other wise you are just another pretend socialist/liberal wanna be millionare on here...

Remember I am just a Chicago guy who left that he'll hole 12 years ago to a red state... Happy making 75 grand a year...

That's all I need

 

[kaz]

Take it up with the OP

Why, you gave your manhood to the OP?

How does being born in our society mean you merit handouts?

Do you take a deduction.....I mean handout on your children as dependents?

How about your mortgage handout

It isn't a handout, it's our money.

You writing your children off on your taxes is as much a handout as a welfare mother gets.

Why should others pay to support your children or your mortgage?

How fucking stupid are you exactly? It isn't even close to the same thing. Me getting to keep more of the money I EARNED isn't the same as someone getting money that they DIDN'T EARN.

Educate yourself retard.

The kool-aid gives RW too big a buzz for him to educate himself

 

[danielpalos]

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

All lies can be based on appeals to ignorance.

 

[kaz]

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

All lies can be based on appeals to ignorance.

colander

 

[Wyatt earp]

If you were a billionaire would you want to invest in brick and motar company's during Obama's recession the past 7 years?

If you wanted too your net worth would be a hundred bucks....

That's why you are a poor ass socialist poster on USMB..

Give a poor ass socialist a million dollars he will only have $3 bucks to his name a year latter.

Its a fact.

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

All lies can be based on appeals to ignorance.

Post it?

Because I know you are a child

See biscuit in my Av?

Well I am right behind him child

 

[Wyatt earp]

The difference between you and me Danny I post my real picture in my AV

And that's my dog , a blue Pitt...his name is biscuit

You just post stupid shit and hide.


Anoymaously ....

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, it is why i get a tax break on capital gains, otherwise, i should have to pay regular taxes on that income, not invested.

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

All lies can be based on appeals to ignorance.

Post it?

Because I know you are a child

See biscuit in my Av?

Well I am right behind him child

It is simple. You have no Thing but an unsubstantiated opinion you are trying to pass off as fact, simply because you say so.

Either substantiate your currently unsubstantiated opinion or run the risk of merely projecting who the actual and real liar is.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He improved it for the states that didn't vote for him.... I always thought that was hilarious the left always praises his job creation numbers then crys about no jobs in the cities

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

Capital gains is a tax that brings in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourages people to invest.

Remember that not all investments create jobs either. A business can invest in a huge warehouse, but only create about three or four jobs for the people that are going to operate that warehouse. Or they may invest in robotics or machinery that requires few if any employees to run them.

Right now there are McDonald's restaurants that are investing in automation in an attempt to have an employee-less store. Sure, there may be a few people there to oversee the operations, but now you have to push buttons on a keypad for what you want and your hamburger is going to be made by machines on an assembly line.

A tax break on investment to create jobs for the People is Only legitimate social reason for the capital gains distinction.

Capital gains is a tax that reaches many people beyond business. For instance, you bought a home 30 years ago for 80K, today it's worth 140K. You made a capital gains of 60K.

As far as a tax break intended for investments, yes, it has been done by George Bush. By allowing more write-offs for business purchases really helped with that economy he had at the time. My employer purchased a whole new fleet of trucks. Our customers were investing in new equipment for their operations. That tax cut put a lot of people back to work.

 

[danielpalos]

The difference between you and me Danny I post my real picture in my AV

And that's my dog , a blue Pitt...his name is biscuit

You just post stupid shit and hide.


Anoymaously ....

so what; anyone can post a picture. i post my real name and real arguments.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yea right dork, antother pretend to be one percenter poster?

You are so full of shit like he is.

Wow I never knew all these socialist played the stock market and owned business , so much so they post on USMB

Lying mother fucker....

I don't need to lie simply because I have a clue and a Cause; unlike you.

Prove it....

I never lie.

All lies can be based on appeals to ignorance.

Post it?

Because I know you are a child

See biscuit in my Av?

Well I am right behind him child

It is simple. You have no Thing but an unsubstantiated opinion you are trying to pass off as fact, simply because you say so.

Either substantiate your currently unsubstantiated opinion or run the risk of merely projecting who thie actual and real liar is.

What you just posted is word salad .

Now are you going to post stock statements just to see how rich you are?

Or just going to hide from me

 

[danielpalos]

Government doesn't create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. All government can do is make it easier or harder for the private sector to do so. Unfortunately, DumBama is the most anti-business President in my lifetime.

Meh, state governments help create local jobs by being business friendly

See Nikki getting Volvo in South Carolina and a host of other off shore jobs

See Texas creating (or stealing as the liberals would say) most of the jobs during Obama's receccison

Only what the federal government can do is create public sector jobs, create private sector jobs through Union military contracts or hinder private sector job growth... which Obama was great at with Obama care, threat of a raise in the minimum wage and just by being a democrat , no one wanted to invest much with this president because he is so anti business.

So, if the private sector doesn't want to invest to create jobs, why do they need a special tax rate called, capital gains that is not taxed as ordinary income?

Full employment/part-time employment should correlate to full and part-time jobs availability.

Why don't our elected representatives to federal government become as fond of micromanaging those tax rates are they are regular income tax codes.

Capital gains is a tax that brings in revenue to the government while at the same time, encourages people to invest.

Remember that not all investments create jobs either. A business can invest in a huge warehouse, but only create about three or four jobs for the people that are going to operate that warehouse. Or they may invest in robotics or machinery that requires few if any employees to run them.

Right now there are McDonald's restaurants that are investing in automation in an attempt to have an employee-less store. Sure, there may be a few people there to oversee the operations, but now you have to push buttons on a keypad for what you want and your hamburger is going to be made by machines on an assembly line.

A tax break on investment to create jobs for the People is Only legitimate social reason for the capital gains distinction.

Capital gains is a tax that reaches many people beyond business. For instance, you bought a home 30 years ago for 80K, today it's worth 140K. You made a capital gains of 60K.

As far as a tax break intended for investments, yes, it has been done by George Bush. By allowing more write-offs for business purchases really helped with that economy he had at the time. My employer purchased a whole new fleet of trucks. Our customers were investing in new equipment for their operations. That tax cut put a lot of people back to work.

While I understand the benefits of the tax break, doesn't the tax break of that type constitute social spending that is not being spent on promoting the general welfare but merely bottom line issues of Persons of Capital.