Should we be force feeding gitmo prisoners?

[Truthmatters]

http://www.justice.gov/ag/guantanamo-review-final-report.pdf

 

[Truthmatters]

EXCLUSIVE: Guantánamo Scandal: The 40 Prisoners Still Held But Cleared for Release At Least Five Years Ago - Articles - Welcome to "Close Guantánamo"



One of the greatest injustices at Guantánamo is that, of the 169 prisoners still held, over half -- 87 in total -- were cleared for release by President Obama's interagency Guantánamo Review Task Force. The Task Force involved around 60 career officials from various government departments and the intelligence agencies, who spent the first year of the Obama Presidency reviewing the cases of all the remaining prisoners in Guantánamo, to decide whether they should be tried, released, or, in some cases, held indefinitely without charge or trial. The Task Force's final report is here (PDF).

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

More than half the folks in gitmo have been cleared of any wrongdoing. They should be released and compensated. The others should be given trials in US courts. It's a mockery of our justice system that gitmo even exists. It's a cynical endrun around tbe constitution and geneva.

Without trials how have they been cleared? And if they have been cleared why are so many of them refused reentry into their home country?

No matter what we've got a mess on our hands.

they were not tried becuase their was no need to try them for anything.

NO EVIDENCE they did anything wrong.


Would you take a person that AQ had controled for 10 years?


Yes its a mess thank the republicans

Just stop TM. Even this post is absurd.
First you say they did nothing wrong then you claim they are dangerous Al quad a operatives.

Be quiet

 

[Truthmatters]

you hate facts huh?

fox does that to people

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Your incessant spam and ramblings do not equate to facts moron.

 

[Truthmatters]

facts are not spam

 

[Truthmatters]

EXCLUSIVE: Guantánamo Scandal: The 40 Prisoners Still Held But Cleared for Release At Least Five Years Ago - Articles - Welcome to "Close Guantánamo"



One of the greatest injustices at Guantánamo is that, of the 169 prisoners still held, over half -- 87 in total -- were cleared for release by President Obama's interagency Guantánamo Review Task Force. The Task Force involved around 60 career officials from various government departments and the intelligence agencies, who spent the first year of the Obama Presidency reviewing the cases of all the remaining prisoners in Guantánamo, to decide whether they should be tried, released, or, in some cases, held indefinitely without charge or trial. The Task Force's final report is here (PDF).

they have been cleared

 

[Truthmatters]

Republicans try to block Guantánamo detainees from prisons in their districts | World news | guardian.co.uk

 

[Wolfsister77]

Guantanamo needs to be closed but Congress blocked plans to move these prisoners to super max prisons here in the US.

One of the things about force feeding them is it is unethical in the medical profession. A patient has the right to refuse treatment.

So, this whole situation is a mess with no easy answers.

I will say it is against the core values of this country and against the human rights practices we stand for and against the Geneva Convention to hold them indefinitely without trial. We need to charge them or release them. We know who they are and it isn't like they will be free to do as they wish. The really sad thing-many who are imprisoned here were deemed to be innocent in the first place.

The Supreme Court has ruled they deserve trials. We need to be American and stand by our values as a country.

 

[Truthmatters]

why is suicide by starving OK ?

 

[Circe]

If we allow them to die, we turn them into martyrs for the cause. Yet another reason Gitmo should be closed.

I cannot believe Obama simply walked into this and then rewarded the Muslim prisoners by saying that he wanted to close Gitmo!! I begin to believe he really is Muslim, that was so stupid.

The British were faced with lots of hunger strikes by Irish terrorists in the 70s, IIRC. They fixed the problem finally by simply letting them die, after which it all stopped, of course.

If you force-feed these characters, what do they have to lose? Nothing, and they gain power.

Whereas if we let them quietly die if they want to, while providing them with food and drink for publicity purposes, the heck with them. It would be easy to close Gitmo if it is depopulated, that would be excellent.

Look: we can't send them back, they are too dangerous. We can't let them go, they are too dangerous. They want to starve themselves to death. WHY, oh why, is this a PROBLEM?????

It's a solution. No terrorists, no Gitmo. Win--win.

 

[Katzndogz]

These terrorists claim that force feeding is a form of torture. The UN says that it's a form of torture.

UN calls force-feeding at Guantanamo 'torture' - GUANTANAMO BAY - FRANCE 24

These terrorists moan and groan that they are being allowed to voluntarily starve themselves to death, but would complain more if they were force fed. What they want is all their demands met, after which they will make new demands because the threat of self-starvation will be made again.

Let them die, like the British did to the IRA terrorists and it will stop.

 

[Truthmatters]

You can rehydrate and deliver nutrition without it being painful.

 

[Truthmatters]

These terrorists claim that force feeding is a form of torture. The UN says that it's a form of torture.

UN calls force-feeding at Guantanamo 'torture' - GUANTANAMO BAY - FRANCE 24

These terrorists moan and groan that they are being allowed to voluntarily starve themselves to death, but would complain more if they were force fed. What they want is all their demands met, after which they will make new demands because the threat of self-starvation will be made again.

Let them die, like the British did to the IRA terrorists and it will stop.

"Even if intended to benefit, feeding accompanied with threats, coercion, force or use of physical restraints is a form of inhuman and degrading treatment. Equally unacceptable is the force feeding of some detainees in order to intimidate or coerce other hunger strikers to stop fasting,"

 

[AmyNation]

Try to see past your hatred of Islam and look at the pros and cons of Gitmo.

It serves no purpose, it's a tool for recruitment for terrorists, it goes against everything we stand for as a nation, it creates heros and martyrs for terrorists, it creates sympathy for those men and their cause from our allies and our citizens.

There is zero reason we can't try those prisoners in our justice system and lock them up in our regular prisons. We've done it before and it works just fine.

 

[Truthmatters]

If its painless and designed to merely keep them from dying its not inhumain

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Let those sub human jihadist animals starve to death..........

 

[Circe]

One of the things about force feeding them is it is unethical in the medical profession. A patient has the right to refuse treatment.

So, this whole situation is a mess with no easy answers.

Shoooooo, it's a perfectly easy and obvious answer. If it's unethical to force-feed them, then let them starve themselves!!!! Terry Schiavo wasn't tube-fed because her HUSBAND wanted to starve her, and a lot of people thought that was just fine! So if these men want to starve themselves, for heaven's sake, let them alone to get on with it, the sooner the better.

I will say it is against the core values of this country and against the human rights practices we stand for and against the Geneva Convention to hold them indefinitely without trial. We need to charge them or release them. We know who they are and it isn't like they will be free to do as they wish.

Surely we have enough perspective by now to see that this is not a complex situation. These are prisoners of war: we called it a war, it was a war, and after a war is over the rules of war say you do have to let the prisoners go home. Not here!! But ship them somewhere. Myself, I would drop them in the center of Uganda, since their own countries reject them as too dangerous. There are almost no roads at all in Uganda and quite a lot of Ebola.......that would at least discourage them a little, I would hope, from further terrorism.

No one tries prisoners of war in a criminal court! Or a military court, or anywhere, unless there are clear and obvious war crimes issues. They are simply let go and even aided to get back home or near home. This is a well-known practice for centuries and was done after both world wars.

Take their DNA, let them go in the middle of Uganda (I don't say the middle of the Atlantic, but it's a temptation) and if they ever show up here, quietly shoot them. Getting too hung up on details about clear enemies is silly.

Just get it DONE. Let them starve themselves till all that are going to die are dead, then let the rest go somewhere they can't get back from too easily, then watch that they never come back here. That's that. Normal prisoner of war practices.

 

[Truthmatters]

shaivo requested no treatment Beforfe she was injured.

the husband was doing HER bidding medically.

these people are NOT in a vegitave state

 

[editec]

Should we be force feeding gitmo prisoners?

Nope.

We ought to be liberating them.

That or we need to bring them to trail for crimes.

Except most of them have committed NO CRIMES whatever.