Slaves were "workers" that were "recruited" to labor in the Plantations

[JakeStarkey]

"Lefties want to silence everything else about American slavery.." << Silliest statement of the night.

 

[Meathead]

Sounds very PC to me. Illegal alien is to undocumented alien what slave is to forced migrant.

I guess my great-great-great grandpappy was a forced migrant sounds better than a slave.

 

[JakeStarkey]

An Illegal alien is an undocumented alien, yes. A forced migrant is a slave sounds better to the PC far right reactionaries. Heavens we tell the truth; it might offend the far right.

 

[Meathead]

An Illegal alien is an undocumented alien, yes. A forced migrant is a slave sounds better to the PC far right reactionaries. Heavens we tell the truth; it might offend the far right.

PC is a monolithic doctrine. It's time we got rid of the term 'slave'as it may be offensive to some. For example: your great-great-great grandpappy was not a slave owner, he owned forced migrants!

PC FOREVER!!!

 

[presonorek]

Seriously? Well...that's what some of our nation's textbooks are saying thanks to the Regressives who are busy rewriting history.

Yup. There was no "slavery" - there were "forced migrations" and "workers" who labored under "slave conditions".


A mom challenges textbook description of slaves as ‘workers’ and wins | Get Schooled

Under the heading “Patterns of Immigration,” the world geography book states: “The Atlantic Slave Trade between the 1500s and 1800s brought millions of workers from Africa to the southern United States to work on agricultural plantations.”

In its public statement, McGraw-Hill Education said:

This week, we became aware of a concern regarding a caption reference to slavery on a map in one of our world geography programs. This program addresses slavery in the world in several lessons and meets the learning objectives of the course. However, we conducted a close review of the content and agree that our language in that caption did not adequately convey that Africans were both forced into migration and to labor against their will as slaves.

We believe we can do better. To communicate these facts more clearly, we will update this caption to describe the arrival of African slaves in the U.S. as a forced migration and emphasize that their work was done as slave labor. These changes will be reflected in the digital version of the program immediately and will be included in the program’s next print run.

Seriously guys? Being captured, sold, and shipped overseas to American Slave Markets is a "forced migration"? And somehow...the condition of slavery (where human beings are owned, bred like livestock, families split up and sold, women raped because they were property....) is not "being a slave" but rather...doing slave labor?

The Texas Board of Education, one of the biggest purchasers of textbooks, is going even further to make slavery sound quaint and charming and minimizing the KKK and Jim Crowe. Sheesh.

I wasn't there. I can't verify either story. Sorry. I can't help you on this one. I don't have a time machine thus I am the least qualified person to verify historical events.

I do see present conditions. The slavery story of our history is divisive. Maybe somebody found a way to improve race relations. There is nothing wrong with improving the future. There is lots wrong with wallowing in the past just to piss people off.

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. That's a fancy way of saying that we are all doomed to repeat history. If it happened last week we are likely to mix up the details. If it happened last year we are likely to change the story completely. If it happened 100+ years ago and an ambitious movement has a point to make then you are just reading propaganda or at most you are reading entertaining literature. The boring stuff never gets recorded accurately.

 

[presonorek]

Slavery had to end anyway. It was too expensive. People worked all day every day and all they got was food and shelter.

Now they work all day every day for less than that.

You can hire an employee for one day and then throw them in the trash. A slave was a life long commitment. The slavery system couldn't compete with the new economy of throwing people out like trash.

Slavery was cruel but the greedy class need a crueler system. They just couldn't make enough profit with slavery.

 

[koshergrl]

Seriously? Well...that's what some of our nation's textbooks are saying thanks to the Regressives who are busy rewriting history.

Yup. There was no "slavery" - there were "forced migrations" and "workers" who labored under "slave conditions".


A mom challenges textbook description of slaves as ‘workers’ and wins | Get Schooled

Under the heading “Patterns of Immigration,” the world geography book states: “The Atlantic Slave Trade between the 1500s and 1800s brought millions of workers from Africa to the southern United States to work on agricultural plantations.”

In its public statement, McGraw-Hill Education said:

This week, we became aware of a concern regarding a caption reference to slavery on a map in one of our world geography programs. This program addresses slavery in the world in several lessons and meets the learning objectives of the course. However, we conducted a close review of the content and agree that our language in that caption did not adequately convey that Africans were both forced into migration and to labor against their will as slaves.

We believe we can do better. To communicate these facts more clearly, we will update this caption to describe the arrival of African slaves in the U.S. as a forced migration and emphasize that their work was done as slave labor. These changes will be reflected in the digital version of the program immediately and will be included in the program’s next print run.

Seriously guys? Being captured, sold, and shipped overseas to American Slave Markets is a "forced migration"? And somehow...the condition of slavery (where human beings are owned, bred like livestock, families split up and sold, women raped because they were property....) is not "being a slave" but rather...doing slave labor?

The Texas Board of Education, one of the biggest purchasers of textbooks, is going even further to make slavery sound quaint and charming and minimizing the KKK and Jim Crowe. Sheesh.

I wasn't there. I can't verify either story. Sorry. I can't help you on this one. I don't have a time machine thus I am the least qualified person to verify historical events.

I do see present conditions. The slavery story of our history is divisive. Maybe somebody found a way to improve race relations. There is nothing wrong with improving the future. There is lots wrong with wallowing in the past just to piss people off.

Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. That's a fancy way of saying that we are all doomed to repeat history. If it happened last week we are likely to mix up the details. If it happened last year we are likely to change the story completely. If it happened 100+ years ago and an ambitious movement has a point to make then you are just reading propaganda or at most you are reading entertaining literature. The boring stuff never gets recorded accurately.

Oh bullshit. That's a lazy man's cop out. We have accurate and trustworthy historical documentation. People can and do know what happened in the past..but it does no good if nobody reads it.

 

[presonorek]

Oh bullshit. That's a lazy man's cop out. We have accurate and trustworthy historical documentation. People can and do know what happened in the past..but it does no good if nobody reads it.

You may have a time machine but I don't.

 

[presonorek]

How do you enslave people that are your equal?

If a person has $100,000 in assets then he can remain free.

If a person has no assets but a debt of $100,000 then he can be a slave.

If a person obeys the law then he can remain free.

If a person breaks the law then he can be a slave.

It doesn't have to be about race. Slavery can exist in a culture that values equality of all human beings.

The debt or the poor choices can be factors that guarantees a person's enslavement rather than geneology or skin color.

I know that I have a radical opinion on this matter but I think people with three convictions of drug possession should be sentenced to lifelong slave labor. Drug addicts never recover. Even if they remain sober for life they continually suffer with the addiction. I think their poor choices and their personal misery would be improved with a life of slavery. We could still occasionally give them drugs in the slave camps to keep their motivations up to work hard and produce abundantly.

Drug addicts are a drain on their families. I see nothing wrong with taking that destructive energy and turning it into something positive.

 

[presonorek]

Even if budget was no object, I still wouldn't pay $1700 for a bottle of anything. I can go to my local public house and pay $20 a glass for it.

Instead, this is my bourbon of choice.

In fact, I'm picking up a bottle in Vancouver tomorrow. For some strange reason, it's cheaper in Canada than in the US.

Let me understand:

Are you taking alcohol across international borders?

 

[koshergrl]

How do you enslave people that are your equal?

If a person has $100,000 in assets then he can remain free.

If a person has no assets but a debt of $100,000 then he can be a slave.

If a person obeys the law then he can remain free.

If a person breaks the law then he can be a slave.

It doesn't have to be about race. Slavery can exist in a culture that values equality of all human beings.

The debt or the poor choices can be factors that guarantees a person's enslavement rather than geneology or skin color.

I know that I have a radical opinion on this matter but I think people with three convictions of drug possession should be sentenced to lifelong slave labor. Drug addicts never recover. Even if they remain sober for life they continually suffer with the addiction. I think their poor choices and their personal misery would be improved with a life of slavery. We could still occasionally give them drugs in the slave camps to keep their motivations up to work hard and produce abundantly.

Drug addicts are a drain on their families. I see nothing wrong with taking that destructive energy and turning it into something positive.

I'm not a slave. I have almost nothing, but I'm free.

 

[Rotagilla]

They also teach that blacks were enslaved because of their skin color

In British America, only blacks could be enslaved legally by the 1750s, so, yeah, Tank, for once in a long time, you are right.

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They were enslaved due to their low IQ levels, skin color didn't matter

Ridiculous; I have met Blacks from the ghetto as part of my work and many of them are as clever as any Caucasian.

it's a fact that mongoloid (asians) have average IQ's as much as one standard deviation above caucasians...It is also true that negroes have an average IQ one standard deviation lower than caucasians...sub saharn african IQ are in the 70's...classified as "retarded"...
Hybrid negroes that have some caucasian DNA is the reason that the average negro IQ in america is as "high" as it is around 85....borderline retarded....
as always there are some outliers, though and their above average IQ does "stand out"..especially when compared to the average.

 

[Rotagilla]

How do you enslave people that are your equal?

Guns, swords, whips, chains, outnumbering them, bringing them to areas where they don't know the topography so they can't escape.

no mention of them being captured as prisoners in tribal wars and sold?..gee, isn't THAT..convenient ...no mention that slavery continues in africa...

it's all the evilwhiteredneckcrackerkkknazitrailetrash who just sailed up and said get on the boat....LMAO..you guys have a deep deficit when it comes to knowing and understanding history. Public school student, I assume?

 

[Indeependent]

How do you enslave people that are your equal?

Guns, swords, whips, chains, outnumbering them, bringing them to areas where they don't know the topography so they can't escape.

no mention of them being captured as prisoners in tribal wars and sold?..gee, isn't THAT..convenient ...no mention that slavery continues in africa...

it's all the evilwhiteredneckcrackerkkknazitrailetrash who just sailed up and said get on the boat....LMAO..you guys have a deep deficit when it comes to knowing and understanding history. Public school student, I assume?

I see you haven't been reading my posts.
I already stated that it all started when African families sold their kids for money.
You are yet another knee-jerk Conservative idiot.
Not that I haven't known already that for a while.

 

[Toro]

Let me understand:

Are you taking alcohol across international borders?

Yes.

I'm sitting in an Atlanta SkyClub right now, finishing off my Booker's. And my bag with my Booker's will be with me in a few hours.

It's in Hartsfield where I first sampled Booker's. $12 for a double in the SkyClub. Mm-mmm!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They also teach that blacks were enslaved because of their skin color

In British America, only blacks could be enslaved legally by the 1750s, so, yeah, Tank, for once in a long time, you are right.

Read The Lost German Slave Girl - Amazon.com Amazon.com, Inc.
The Lost German Slave Girl: The Extraordinary True Story of Sally Miller and Her Fight for Freedom in Old New Orleans [John Bailey] on Amazon.com. *FREE* ...

They were enslaved due to their low IQ levels, skin color didn't matter

Ridiculous; I have met Blacks from the ghetto as part of my work and many of them are as clever as any Caucasian.

it's a fact that mongoloid (asians) have average IQ's as much as one standard deviation above caucasians...It is also true that negroes have an average IQ one standard deviation lower than caucasians...sub saharn african IQ are in the 70's...classified as "retarded"...
Hybrid negroes that have some caucasian DNA is the reason that the average negro IQ in america is as "high" as it is around 85....borderline retarded....
as always there are some outliers, though and their above average IQ does "stand out"..especially when compared to the average.

Obviously you have no idea how ignorant and ridiculous this is.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"The Texas Board of Education, one of the biggest purchasers of textbooks, is going even further to make slavery sound quaint and charming and minimizing the KKK and Jim Crowe. Sheesh."

Rightwing political correctness.

 

[JakeStarkey]

An Illegal alien is an undocumented alien, yes. A forced migrant is a slave sounds better to the PC far right reactionaries. Heavens we tell the truth; it might offend the far right.

PC is a monolithic doctrine. It's time we got rid of the term 'slave'as it may be offensive to some. For example: your great-great-great grandpappy was not a slave owner, he owned forced migrants!

PC FOREVER!!!

You sound as confused as usual.

 

[Rotagilla]

They also teach that blacks were enslaved because of their skin color

In British America, only blacks could be enslaved legally by the 1750s, so, yeah, Tank, for once in a long time, you are right.

Read The Lost German Slave Girl - Amazon.com Amazon.com, Inc.
The Lost German Slave Girl: The Extraordinary True Story of Sally Miller and Her Fight for Freedom in Old New Orleans [John Bailey] on Amazon.com. *FREE* ...

They were enslaved due to their low IQ levels, skin color didn't matter

Ridiculous; I have met Blacks from the ghetto as part of my work and many of them are as clever as any Caucasian.

it's a fact that mongoloid (asians) have average IQ's as much as one standard deviation above caucasians...It is also true that negroes have an average IQ one standard deviation lower than caucasians...sub saharn african IQ are in the 70's...classified as "retarded"...
Hybrid negroes that have some caucasian DNA is the reason that the average negro IQ in america is as "high" as it is around 85....borderline retarded....
as always there are some outliers, though and their above average IQ does "stand out"..especially when compared to the average.

Obviously you have no idea how ignorant and ridiculous this is.

IQ is valid and those are facts

 

[JakeStarkey]

How do you enslave people that are your equal?

Guns, swords, whips, chains, outnumbering them, bringing them to areas where they don't know the topography so they can't escape.

no mention of them being captured as prisoners in tribal wars and sold?..gee, isn't THAT..convenient ...no mention that slavery continues in africa...

it's all the evilwhiteredneckcrackerkkknazitrailetrash who just sailed up and said get on the boat....LMAO..you guys have a deep deficit when it comes to knowing and understanding history. Public school student, I assume?

You sound as confused as most private and home school students of the last thirty years, which means "much." Son, the black slaves were not swimming to the Americas, and they weren't sailing on black-owned slave ships You just don't like the whole truth is the problem.