Small Businesses in NYC Struggling with $15 Minimum Wage

[pknopp]

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

Doesn't matter to me. Help them out because the pay isn't high enough or pay them to stay home. Not my call.

​

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system. Grow up.

Everyone supports Socialism when they are the ones benefiting. When we do things that are not Capitalistic it's not because it's not 100% perfect it's because it's not what we are doing. You condemn a program that helps people when they get sick as Socialism. You say bailing out a business is simply things not being perfect.

Yes, gov't action is - under extreme circumstances - necessary to save jobs and accumulated wealth from being lost. That isn't socialism, Comrade, nor is it a rational response to capitalism's failures. The Great Depression was caused in part by President Coolidge's failure to act.

And I don't condemn any program that "helps people when they get sick" but I adamantly reject socialism as the answer to the imperfections of capitalism.

BTW, that Walmart Myth you promote is just a myth.

Myth Busted: Taxpayers Are Not Subsidizing Wal-Mart's Low Wages | Investor's Business Daily

Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

 

[pknopp]

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

It works for those who bust their ass to move up. If you are pushing a broom like you're pushing a cart of concrete, of course you're not going places. I have worked at places where there was nowhere to go. I simply found jobs where I could move up in pay or position.

A country can not only deal with the minority. It must deal with the tens of millions.

 

[danielpalos]

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

Doesn't matter to me. Help them out because the pay isn't high enough or pay them to stay home. Not my call.

​

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system. Grow up.

Everyone supports Socialism when they are the ones benefiting. When we do things that are not Capitalistic it's not because it's not 100% perfect it's because it's not what we are doing. You condemn a program that helps people when they get sick as Socialism. You say bailing out a business is simply things not being perfect.

Yes, gov't action is - under extreme circumstances - necessary to save jobs and accumulated wealth from being lost. That isn't socialism, Comrade, nor is it a rational response to capitalism's failures. The Great Depression was caused in part by President Coolidge's failure to act.

And I don't condemn any program that "helps people when they get sick" but I adamantly reject socialism as the answer to the imperfections of capitalism.

BTW, that Walmart Myth you promote is just a myth.

Myth Busted: Taxpayers Are Not Subsidizing Wal-Mart's Low Wages | Investor's Business Daily

Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance

Compensation for Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment is more cost effective and efficient for our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

It works for those who bust their ass to move up. If you are pushing a broom like you're pushing a cart of concrete, of course you're not going places. I have worked at places where there was nowhere to go. I simply found jobs where I could move up in pay or position.

A country can not only deal with the minority. It must deal with the tens of millions.

Our welfare clause is General not limited.

 

[SAYIT]

Gotta wonder what they would cost us if there was no Walmart to subsidize them, eh Comrade?

We can wonder what they would have cost us if the practices of places like Wal Mart hadn't run manufacturing to places like China, Thailand etc. Is that what you want to discuss?

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it always seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

 

[SAYIT]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.
Walmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

Incorrect again, Comrade, but feel free to cling to your socialist POV. Many Americans move up every day, either within the company or in another that sees greater value in their skills.

 

[danielpalos]

We can wonder what they would have cost us if the practices of places like Wal Mart hadn't run manufacturing to places like China, Thailand etc. Is that what you want to discuss?

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

 

[danielpalos]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.
Walmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

Incorrect again, Comrade, but feel free to cling to your socialist POV. Many Americans move up every day, either within the company or in another that sees greater value in their skills.

stop complaining about the cost of social services.

 

[pknopp]

We can wonder what they would have cost us if the practices of places like Wal Mart hadn't run manufacturing to places like China, Thailand etc. Is that what you want to discuss?

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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You have shown you support socialist programs that help those you want supported. You use excuses that those programs are not socialism but they most certainly are when compared to the things you call socialist.

 

[pknopp]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.
Walmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

Incorrect again, Comrade, but feel free to cling to your socialist POV. Many Americans move up every day, either within the company or in another that sees greater value in their skills.

stop complaining about the cost of social services.

He doesn't when social services go to benefit wall street.

 

[Thinker101]

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

And the left wing is pro socialism because they're either too lazy or too fricken stupid.

 

[pknopp]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.
Walmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

Incorrect again, Comrade, but feel free to cling to your socialist POV. Many Americans move up every day, either within the company or in another that sees greater value in their skills.

You can discuss what I say or continue to avoid it. I never once argued that people can not move up. Not a single time. The argument is tens of millions can not.

 

[danielpalos]

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

And the left wing is pro socialism because they're either too lazy or too fricken stupid.

the right wing is worse.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We can wonder what they would have cost us if the practices of places like Wal Mart hadn't run manufacturing to places like China, Thailand etc. Is that what you want to discuss?

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it always seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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Their argument is that we are not a capitalist society. Well if we aren't, we are the closest thing to it.

Isn't it amazing how this capitalist society of ours gave us the ability to be the greatest nation on earth in a couple hundred years? Other countries have been around thousands of years and can't hold a candle to us when it comes to wealth or happiness.

We do have socialist societies within our borders; places where nobody has guns but the government, nobody has money except the government, free healthcare and food. We call these places prison, and that's what the left wants to do with the entire country.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

It works for those who bust their ass to move up. If you are pushing a broom like you're pushing a cart of concrete, of course you're not going places. I have worked at places where there was nowhere to go. I simply found jobs where I could move up in pay or position.

A country can not only deal with the minority. It must deal with the tens of millions.

The US Constitution guarantees us the right to pursue happiness. It does not guarantee us the right to have it provided to us.

If you seek opportunity, it's out there. If you don't, then the doors are closed to you, but it's you that closed those doors. Government has nothing to do with it. When government gets involved, that's when things go to hell.

 

[danielpalos]

Sure.

In addition to the 1.5 US employees, millions of Walmart stakeholders all benefit as well as those whose harned-earned cash goes further thanks to Walmart.

In other words, in the US we get to take the bad with the good and most adults understand that is life. Under socialism one only gets the bad.

Employee's make enough to get off public assistance. Who is being harmed there? An employee can afford to take time off work and see a doctor when they get sick. Who exactly is being harmed there?

You seem to have serious issues with capitalism, Comrade. Allow me to suggest that your life would be far more enjoyable if wasted in some "Worker's Paradise" rather than America.

I support Capitalism. We do not operate under Capitalism. Where in Capitalism do we find bail outs, tariffs and quantitative easing?

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it always seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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Their argument is that we are not a capitalist society. Well if we aren't, we are the closest thing to it.

Isn't it amazing how this capitalist society of ours gave us the ability to be the greatest nation on earth in a couple hundred years? Other countries have been around thousands of years and can't hold a candle to us when it comes to wealth or happiness.

We do have socialist societies within our borders; places where nobody has guns but the government, nobody has money except the government, free healthcare and food. We call these places prison, and that's what the left wants to do with the entire country.

it wasn't right wing policies that upgraded our republic from a relative third world economy to our current first world status.

 

[Thinker101]

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

View attachment 273719

The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

And the left wing is pro socialism because they're either too lazy or too fricken stupid.

the right wing is worse.

Yet they're not the ones demanding free shit, go figure...dumbass.

 

[pknopp]

Try to remember that without those low-skill Walmart jobs the employees would have no jobs. Do you actually believe that to be the better outcome?

And you do not support capitalism but rather have a childish view that it must be 100% perfect, 100% of the time. Life is messy and people are imperfect and capitalism sucks except when compared to any other economic system.

Grow up.

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

We have covered this many times. Despite that you insist on the same covered argument. Moving up works for a few. It does not work for tens of millions.

It works for those who bust their ass to move up. If you are pushing a broom like you're pushing a cart of concrete, of course you're not going places. I have worked at places where there was nowhere to go. I simply found jobs where I could move up in pay or position.

A country can not only deal with the minority. It must deal with the tens of millions.

The US Constitution guarantees us the right to pursue happiness. It does not guarantee us the right to have it provided to us.

Then let's do away with the Federal Reserve. Until we do that I'm not interested.

If you seek opportunity, it's out there. If you don't, then the doors are closed to you, but it's you that closed those doors. Government has nothing to do with it. When government gets involved, that's when things go to hell.

opportunity is not there for tens of millions.

 

[pknopp]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

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The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

And the left wing is pro socialism because they're either too lazy or too fricken stupid.

the right wing is worse.

Yet they're not the ones demanding free shit, go figure...dumbass.

Who is paying for the wars? The bail outs?

 

[danielpalos]

The left likes to focus on the lowly self stocking people. Walmart has the best opportunity to move up the ladder. Their managers and assistant managers are doing okay. Their warehouses and office personnel are doing well. I know their truck drivers are doing great. They are offering a starting salary of nearly 90K a year.

Wallmart (like any business) pays people according to their value to the company.

For most the glass is half-full but for some it seems half-empty. For many the cup runneth over.

Socialists must compare their pristine theory to messy, functioning capitalism because when actual socialist shitholes are in evidence, their argument goes belly up. Comrade P wails about the imperfections.

This country has for the last century enjoyed the most widely spread prosperity perhaps ever in the history of mankind. Socialists see that as a threat to their fantasy of a global "Worker's Paradise."

It certainly has been.

View attachment 273719

The right wing only alleges to be for capitalism, "in socialism threads."

And the left wing is pro socialism because they're either too lazy or too fricken stupid.

the right wing is worse.

Yet they're not the ones demanding free shit, go figure...dumbass.

tax cut economics are simple wealth redistribution on a national basis.
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