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Small Dreams

Turning a dream into reality takes more than just hard work, TK. It requires a willingness for others to invest in your dream. Try going to a bank and asking for a loan to start your own business. You won't get it because you have no collateral of your own. Try going to angel investors instead and they will turn you down because you have proof of earnings for your dream.

Now apply that to those living in poverty and subsisting on welfare and food stamps. They will run into the exact same roadblocks and that is what happened to the American dream of a better future.

You complain about too much welfare and entitlements and you assume that without those there would be an incentive to attaining the American Dream. That is magical thinking on your part.

The reality is that without those programs there would be widespread poverty and rampant crime because desperate people can't afford the luxury of time to reach prosperity when they have hungry mouths to feed and house.

If you want your American Dream to come true you need to deal with the underlying cause first. Prosperity in this nation came about when a blue collar worker could buy a home and raise a family of 3 children on a single income. That meant that he was paid a living wage with benefits even if he was only a janitor.

The proof of that pudding occurred in the 1990's following the 2 largest tax increases (1 Republican and 1 Democratic) in history. The economy had the largest economic expansion in history, the unemployment rate was at record lows and the deficit was shrinking. More new jobs were created and new companies were starting up at record rates. Government was creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs too by adding teachers and police officers.

So if you want to know where that all went wrong look no further than unnecessary wars and tax cuts for the wealthy.

The American Dream requires that there be a willingness to lend and invest, a tax rate high enough to pay for government spending at present rates and most of all corporations paying every hard working American a living wage with benefits.

Do all of those things and you will see prosperity, growth and future for We the People.
So you pick all the wrong metrics and then say you are not at fault if you don't achieve these goals?

I don't think so.

History is replete with examples of people who did not have to rely upon others to achieve success.

History is replete with what works and what doesn't when it comes to long term prosperity for millions of people. The math doesn't lie when it comes to jobs that pay living wages and benefits.
 
If I were "King for a Day" I would immediately stop all unemployment checks, welfare checks, food stamps, free government issued cell phones and all the other free shit the government gives away. Sounds harsh but I'm sure you would be surprised at the large number of people who would find a job someplace doing something to enable them to live. It's easier to just stay home than it is to actually go out to work. Because of it, we have become a nation of slugs and agreeable to live off the free crap the government gives us.
You are aware that the 1% "job creators" aren't creating any jobs, right? You do understand that very simple fact, right? 10k factories have closed in the 21st century, and food service jobs pay shit. So what are so many millions of Americans supposed to do to get ahead? Go to college? Student loan debt outweighs credit card debt, so people are going to college. What else? Get a second or third minimum-wage job to try to get ahead? There aren't enough jobs for everyone while 1% job creators are hoarding trillions in cash.

Why is that so difficult to understand? Do you actually believe that people WANT to scrounge by on $600 a month from unemployment? The average food stamp recipient gets about $30/mo- around a dollar a day. Yeah, those poor unemployed moochers are just LIVING IT UP with all that free money.

I don't buy your excuses. What did people do before the government began to hand out all of the free shit? They got up off their asses and found a way to support themselves. When does the cycle end? If you don't do anything to help yourself, you will always be standing in line for a handout. It's not the taxpayer's job to support you. Go into business for yourself. Find a way to support yourself. Quit saying "I can't do it. Please support me." For God's sake, support yourself and become a problem solver instead of constantly being a problem causer.

Millions of elderly people who could no longer work became destitute before "before the government began to hand out all of the free shit", BBD. And no, it isn't "free shit" either. Everyone who has ever received a paycheck has paid into social security. It is recognized worldwide as the greatest anti-poverty program ever and it has been and always will be a resounding success.
 
What needs to happen is like what happened in the 90s when the GOP Congress got "Bill Clinton" to repeal parts of the welfare state.

That isn't going to happen with the current crop of scumbag Democraps in DC, so that means the GOP needs to own the Congress and White House to repeal the welfare state and force people back to work.
 
Turning a dream into reality takes more than just hard work, TK. It requires a willingness for others to invest in your dream. Try going to a bank and asking for a loan to start your own business. You won't get it because you have no collateral of your own. Try going to angel investors instead and they will turn you down because you have proof of earnings for your dream.

Now apply that to those living in poverty and subsisting on welfare and food stamps. They will run into the exact same roadblocks and that is what happened to the American dream of a better future.

You complain about too much welfare and entitlements and you assume that without those there would be an incentive to attaining the American Dream. That is magical thinking on your part.

The reality is that without those programs there would be widespread poverty and rampant crime because desperate people can't afford the luxury of time to reach prosperity when they have hungry mouths to feed and house.

If you want your American Dream to come true you need to deal with the underlying cause first. Prosperity in this nation came about when a blue collar worker could buy a home and raise a family of 3 children on a single income. That meant that he was paid a living wage with benefits even if he was only a janitor.

The proof of that pudding occurred in the 1990's following the 2 largest tax increases (1 Republican and 1 Democratic) in history. The economy had the largest economic expansion in history, the unemployment rate was at record lows and the deficit was shrinking. More new jobs were created and new companies were starting up at record rates. Government was creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs too by adding teachers and police officers.

So if you want to know where that all went wrong look no further than unnecessary wars and tax cuts for the wealthy.

The American Dream requires that there be a willingness to lend and invest, a tax rate high enough to pay for government spending at present rates and most of all corporations paying every hard working American a living wage with benefits.

Do all of those things and you will see prosperity, growth and future for We the People.

Ever heard of Tyler Perry and how hard he worked to become a success? He even lived in his car to help him save for a production he wanted to put on. He is a true American sucess story, coming from abuse,, et al, yet he didn't let that or others turning him down, stop him.

Anecdotes are meaningless one-off exceptions. Jobs that pay living wages and benefits are a proven way to achieve prosperity and the American Dream for millions of people.
No, that is the excuse of someone not willing to work hard enough to achieve their own dreams, someone that wants to take from others for themselves. Someone wanting others to make the sacrifices so they can give you more, rather than getting off your own butt and figuring it out for yourself.
 
What needs to happen is like what happened in the 90s when the GOP Congress got "Bill Clinton" to repeal parts of the welfare state.

That isn't going to happen with the current crop of scumbag Democraps in DC, so that means the GOP needs to own the Congress and White House to repeal the welfare state and force people back to work.

People went back to work in the 1990's because there were good jobs with benefits to be had in the greatest economic expansion ever following the largest tax increases in history.

You can't "force people back to work" if there are no jobs out there for them. Your "job creators" haven't produced any new jobs ever since they were given their "tax cut" welfare handouts. How about we force the "job creators" back to work first by raising their taxes and see how that turns out?
 
Uh, taking away their welfare goodies and creating an economic environment to stimulate growth was the recipe.

Obama is doing the opposite, raising taxes and regulation on companies while making it easier to live off welfare like back in the 60s and 70s. He doesn't give a shit because they vote for him from the ghetto...

What needs to happen is like what happened in the 90s when the GOP Congress got "Bill Clinton" to repeal parts of the welfare state.

That isn't going to happen with the current crop of scumbag Democraps in DC, so that means the GOP needs to own the Congress and White House to repeal the welfare state and force people back to work.

People went back to work in the 1990's because there were good jobs with benefits to be had in the greatest economic expansion ever following the largest tax increases in history.

You can't "force people back to work" if there are no jobs out there for them. Your "job creators" haven't produced any new jobs ever since they were given their "tax cut" welfare handouts. How about we force the "job creators" back to work first by raising their taxes and see how that turns out?
 
If I were "King for a Day" I would immediately stop all unemployment checks, welfare checks, food stamps, free government issued cell phones and all the other free shit the government gives away. Sounds harsh but I'm sure you would be surprised at the large number of people who would find a job someplace doing something to enable them to live. It's easier to just stay home than it is to actually go out to work. Because of it, we have become a nation of slugs and agreeable to live off the free crap the government gives us.

So instead of several hundred people lining up for 65 jobs at a Walmart, you think we'd then have several thousand,

and that would make things so much better, how?
 
Uh, taking away their welfare goodies and creating an economic environment to stimulate growth was the recipe.

Obama is doing the opposite, raising taxes and regulation on companies while making it easier to live off welfare like back in the 60s and 70s. He doesn't give a shit because they vote for him from the ghetto...

What needs to happen is like what happened in the 90s when the GOP Congress got "Bill Clinton" to repeal parts of the welfare state.

That isn't going to happen with the current crop of scumbag Democraps in DC, so that means the GOP needs to own the Congress and White House to repeal the welfare state and force people back to work.

People went back to work in the 1990's because there were good jobs with benefits to be had in the greatest economic expansion ever following the largest tax increases in history.

You can't "force people back to work" if there are no jobs out there for them. Your "job creators" haven't produced any new jobs ever since they were given their "tax cut" welfare handouts. How about we force the "job creators" back to work first by raising their taxes and see how that turns out?

Changing your tune now? Exactly how do you intend to create "an economic environment to stimulate growth"?
 
Turning a dream into reality takes more than just hard work, TK. It requires a willingness for others to invest in your dream. Try going to a bank and asking for a loan to start your own business. You won't get it because you have no collateral of your own. Try going to angel investors instead and they will turn you down because you have proof of earnings for your dream.

Now apply that to those living in poverty and subsisting on welfare and food stamps. They will run into the exact same roadblocks and that is what happened to the American dream of a better future.

You complain about too much welfare and entitlements and you assume that without those there would be an incentive to attaining the American Dream. That is magical thinking on your part.

The reality is that without those programs there would be widespread poverty and rampant crime because desperate people can't afford the luxury of time to reach prosperity when they have hungry mouths to feed and house.

If you want your American Dream to come true you need to deal with the underlying cause first. Prosperity in this nation came about when a blue collar worker could buy a home and raise a family of 3 children on a single income. That meant that he was paid a living wage with benefits even if he was only a janitor.

The proof of that pudding occurred in the 1990's following the 2 largest tax increases (1 Republican and 1 Democratic) in history. The economy had the largest economic expansion in history, the unemployment rate was at record lows and the deficit was shrinking. More new jobs were created and new companies were starting up at record rates. Government was creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs too by adding teachers and police officers.

So if you want to know where that all went wrong look no further than unnecessary wars and tax cuts for the wealthy.

The American Dream requires that there be a willingness to lend and invest, a tax rate high enough to pay for government spending at present rates and most of all corporations paying every hard working American a living wage with benefits.

Do all of those things and you will see prosperity, growth and future for We the People.

Ever heard of Tyler Perry and how hard he worked to become a success? He even lived in his car to help him save for a production he wanted to put on. He is a true American sucess story, coming from abuse,, et al, yet he didn't let that or others turning him down, stop him.

What's the obsession of you rightwing nuts with suffering? It's perverted.
 
If I were "King for a Day" I would immediately stop all unemployment checks, welfare checks, food stamps, free government issued cell phones and all the other free shit the government gives away. Sounds harsh but I'm sure you would be surprised at the large number of people who would find a job someplace doing something to enable them to live. It's easier to just stay home than it is to actually go out to work. Because of it, we have become a nation of slugs and agreeable to live off the free crap the government gives us.
You are aware that the 1% "job creators" aren't creating any jobs, right? You do understand that very simple fact, right? 10k factories have closed in the 21st century, and food service jobs pay shit. So what are so many millions of Americans supposed to do to get ahead? Go to college? Student loan debt outweighs credit card debt, so people are going to college. What else? Get a second or third minimum-wage job to try to get ahead? There aren't enough jobs for everyone while 1% job creators are hoarding trillions in cash.

Why is that so difficult to understand? Do you actually believe that people WANT to scrounge by on $600 a month from unemployment? The average food stamp recipient gets about $30/mo- around a dollar a day. Yeah, those poor unemployed moochers are just LIVING IT UP with all that free money.

I don't buy your excuses. What did people do before the government began to hand out all of the free shit? They got up off their asses and found a way to support themselves. When does the cycle end? If you don't do anything to help yourself, you will always be standing in line for a handout. It's not the taxpayer's job to support you. Go into business for yourself. Find a way to support yourself. Quit saying "I can't do it. Please support me." For God's sake, support yourself and become a problem solver instead of constantly being a problem causer.
Are you being serious? I can't tell over the internet what tone of voice you're using. Are you being sarcastic? You do realize that it takes money to start a business, right? And you do realize that the richest 85 people have as much money as the poorest half of the world's population, right? This means that the majority of people on Earth don't have enough money to start their own business.

You fucking assholes seem to think that anyone can just open up shop and sell shit like ebay. It's not that simple. And you also seem to think that "all that free shit" that the government is "handing out" amounts to some kind of personal fortune. The government "hand outs" are just barely enough to keep the People from burning the World Trade Center to the ground. The current financial problem in the US is not unemployed poor people. The problem is rich 1% "job creators" hoarding trillions of dollars instead of spending that money on creating jobs.

What did people do before government "hand-outs"? That was called the Great Depression. Millions of people were entirely fucked.

Digital History
Timeline . Riding the Rails . American Experience . WGBH | PBS
New Deal Timeline (text version)
 
Turning a dream into reality takes more than just hard work, TK. It requires a willingness for others to invest in your dream. Try going to a bank and asking for a loan to start your own business. You won't get it because you have no collateral of your own. Try going to angel investors instead and they will turn you down because you have proof of earnings for your dream.

Now apply that to those living in poverty and subsisting on welfare and food stamps. They will run into the exact same roadblocks and that is what happened to the American dream of a better future.

You complain about too much welfare and entitlements and you assume that without those there would be an incentive to attaining the American Dream. That is magical thinking on your part.

The reality is that without those programs there would be widespread poverty and rampant crime because desperate people can't afford the luxury of time to reach prosperity when they have hungry mouths to feed and house.

If you want your American Dream to come true you need to deal with the underlying cause first. Prosperity in this nation came about when a blue collar worker could buy a home and raise a family of 3 children on a single income. That meant that he was paid a living wage with benefits even if he was only a janitor.

The proof of that pudding occurred in the 1990's following the 2 largest tax increases (1 Republican and 1 Democratic) in history. The economy had the largest economic expansion in history, the unemployment rate was at record lows and the deficit was shrinking. More new jobs were created and new companies were starting up at record rates. Government was creating hundreds of thousands of new jobs too by adding teachers and police officers.

So if you want to know where that all went wrong look no further than unnecessary wars and tax cuts for the wealthy.

The American Dream requires that there be a willingness to lend and invest, a tax rate high enough to pay for government spending at present rates and most of all corporations paying every hard working American a living wage with benefits.

Do all of those things and you will see prosperity, growth and future for We the People.

Ever heard of Tyler Perry and how hard he worked to become a success? He even lived in his car to help him save for a production he wanted to put on. He is a true American sucess story, coming from abuse,, et al, yet he didn't let that or others turning him down, stop him.

What's the obsession of you rightwing nuts with suffering? It's perverted.
Perverted to sacrifice to make yourself a success? What is wrong with that picture? Take some time and read about these people and what adversities they faced but did not let those things influence them to become the successes they were later known for. Many of them going broke yet continuing on until they once again could try all over again. Suffering is all in the eyes of the beholder.

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You are aware that the 1% "job creators" aren't creating any jobs, right? You do understand that very simple fact, right? 10k factories have closed in the 21st century, and food service jobs pay shit. So what are so many millions of Americans supposed to do to get ahead? Go to college? Student loan debt outweighs credit card debt, so people are going to college. What else? Get a second or third minimum-wage job to try to get ahead? There aren't enough jobs for everyone while 1% job creators are hoarding trillions in cash.

Why is that so difficult to understand? Do you actually believe that people WANT to scrounge by on $600 a month from unemployment? The average food stamp recipient gets about $30/mo- around a dollar a day. Yeah, those poor unemployed moochers are just LIVING IT UP with all that free money.

I don't buy your excuses. What did people do before the government began to hand out all of the free shit? They got up off their asses and found a way to support themselves. When does the cycle end? If you don't do anything to help yourself, you will always be standing in line for a handout. It's not the taxpayer's job to support you. Go into business for yourself. Find a way to support yourself. Quit saying "I can't do it. Please support me." For God's sake, support yourself and become a problem solver instead of constantly being a problem causer.

Millions of elderly people who could no longer work became destitute before "before the government began to hand out all of the free shit", BBD. And no, it isn't "free shit" either. Everyone who has ever received a paycheck has paid into social security. It is recognized worldwide as the greatest anti-poverty program ever and it has been and always will be a resounding success.

Not talking about social security. Talking about all the other free crap. Social Security is a good program and I am all for people collecting it as long as they have done their part by working and paying into the system prior to retirement.
 
You are aware that the 1% "job creators" aren't creating any jobs, right? You do understand that very simple fact, right? 10k factories have closed in the 21st century, and food service jobs pay shit. So what are so many millions of Americans supposed to do to get ahead? Go to college? Student loan debt outweighs credit card debt, so people are going to college. What else? Get a second or third minimum-wage job to try to get ahead? There aren't enough jobs for everyone while 1% job creators are hoarding trillions in cash.

Why is that so difficult to understand? Do you actually believe that people WANT to scrounge by on $600 a month from unemployment? The average food stamp recipient gets about $30/mo- around a dollar a day. Yeah, those poor unemployed moochers are just LIVING IT UP with all that free money.

I don't buy your excuses. What did people do before the government began to hand out all of the free shit? They got up off their asses and found a way to support themselves. When does the cycle end? If you don't do anything to help yourself, you will always be standing in line for a handout. It's not the taxpayer's job to support you. Go into business for yourself. Find a way to support yourself. Quit saying "I can't do it. Please support me." For God's sake, support yourself and become a problem solver instead of constantly being a problem causer.
Are you being serious? I can't tell over the internet what tone of voice you're using. Are you being sarcastic? You do realize that it takes money to start a business, right? And you do realize that the richest 85 people have as much money as the poorest half of the world's population, right? This means that the majority of people on Earth don't have enough money to start their own business.

You fucking assholes seem to think that anyone can just open up shop and sell shit like ebay. It's not that simple. And you also seem to think that "all that free shit" that the government is "handing out" amounts to some kind of personal fortune. The government "hand outs" are just barely enough to keep the People from burning the World Trade Center to the ground. The current financial problem in the US is not unemployed poor people. The problem is rich 1% "job creators" hoarding trillions of dollars instead of spending that money on creating jobs.

What did people do before government "hand-outs"? That was called the Great Depression. Millions of people were entirely fucked.

Digital History
Timeline . Riding the Rails . American Experience . WGBH | PBS
New Deal Timeline (text version)

So I'm a "fucking asshole" to believe that people should be responsible for themselves and make their own way in life. America is the most resourceful place on the planet with millions of people who have good ideas every day. So you are telling me that if suddenly there were no government handouts you would not be able to find a way to support yourself? That's pretty sad.
 
Ever heard of Tyler Perry and how hard he worked to become a success? He even lived in his car to help him save for a production he wanted to put on. He is a true American sucess story, coming from abuse,, et al, yet he didn't let that or others turning him down, stop him.

What's the obsession of you rightwing nuts with suffering? It's perverted.
Perverted to sacrifice to make yourself a success? What is wrong with that picture? Take some time and read about these people and what adversities they faced but did not let those things influence them to become the successes they were later known for. Many of them going broke yet continuing on until they once again could try all over again. Suffering is all in the eyes of the beholder.

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More meaningless anecdotes!

We are talking about what it will take for millions of hardworking Americans to prosper. That you refuse to address the inherent problems that are obstructing them from achieving the American Dream says volumes about your inability to comprehend the vital issues that we are facing today.

Without well paid jobs with benefits there is never going to an American Dream for those millions of people. Why are they less deserving of being paid for their hard work than their parents were? Why should the 1% be ENTITLED to massive tax cuts when they are not doing their job? Why are you rewarding the lazy 1% while you penalize the people who are working 2 and 3 jobs just to make ends meet?

Why do you have so much of a problem with understanding something this obvious?
 
I don't buy your excuses. What did people do before the government began to hand out all of the free shit? They got up off their asses and found a way to support themselves. When does the cycle end? If you don't do anything to help yourself, you will always be standing in line for a handout. It's not the taxpayer's job to support you. Go into business for yourself. Find a way to support yourself. Quit saying "I can't do it. Please support me." For God's sake, support yourself and become a problem solver instead of constantly being a problem causer.

Millions of elderly people who could no longer work became destitute before "before the government began to hand out all of the free shit", BBD. And no, it isn't "free shit" either. Everyone who has ever received a paycheck has paid into social security. It is recognized worldwide as the greatest anti-poverty program ever and it has been and always will be a resounding success.

Not talking about social security. Talking about all the other free crap. Social Security is a good program and I am all for people collecting it as long as they have done their part by working and paying into the system prior to retirement.

Exactly what "free crap" would you be referring to?
 
Obama is doing the opposite, raising taxes and regulation on companies while making it easier to live off welfare like back in the 60s and 70s. He doesn't give a shit because they vote for him from the ghetto...

*cough* bullshit

The Rich Are Paying a Smaller Share of Taxes Under Obama

New data is out from the IRS, showing the share of federal income taxes paid by those in each economic strata. Bruce Bartlett points out that the richest Americans have seen their share of taxes declining rather significantly under Obama. Specifically, the richest 1% paid 37.5% of taxes in (recession-damaged) 2008; in 2011, their share was down to 35%. (Their share peaked in 2007, during the boom times—and the Bush administration.) The top 5% of earners also saw their share of taxes decline by a similar margin. So, under the first three years of the Obama administration, the very rich saw their share of taxes go down.



Between 2009 and 2011, the Obama administration approved an average of 297 regulations per year, comparable to yearly figures for the past 18 years. (In 1992 and 1993, the numbers were much higher, exceeding 1,000 regulations both years.)

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Obama is doing the opposite, raising taxes and regulation on companies while making it easier to live off welfare like back in the 60s and 70s. He doesn't give a shit because they vote for him from the ghetto...

*cough* bullshit

The Rich Are Paying a Smaller Share of Taxes Under Obama

New data is out from the IRS, showing the share of federal income taxes paid by those in each economic strata. Bruce Bartlett points out that the richest Americans have seen their share of taxes declining rather significantly under Obama. Specifically, the richest 1% paid 37.5% of taxes in (recession-damaged) 2008; in 2011, their share was down to 35%. (Their share peaked in 2007, during the boom times—and the Bush administration.) The top 5% of earners also saw their share of taxes decline by a similar margin. So, under the first three years of the Obama administration, the very rich saw their share of taxes go down.



Between 2009 and 2011, the Obama administration approved an average of 297 regulations per year, comparable to yearly figures for the past 18 years. (In 1992 and 1993, the numbers were much higher, exceeding 1,000 regulations both years.)

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Interesting, but he did state companies aka corporate not individual.
 

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