Smoking banned in private homes.

[Father Time]

And truthfully, you shouldn't be able to BBQ if these laws are consistent. I'd imagine BBQ fumes were more harmful overall than second hand cigarette smoke.

And seriously, dogs. Dogs have been known to kill.

You'd imagine, I hate to rain on your parade but to get something banned because it's harmful one has to prove it is harmful.

Oh and not all dogs kill, the ones that do get put to sleep.

 

[tigerbob]

And truthfully, you shouldn't be able to BBQ if these laws are consistent. I'd imagine BBQ fumes were more harmful overall than second hand cigarette smoke.

And seriously, dogs. Dogs have been known to kill.

You'd imagine, I hate to rain on your parade but to get something banned because it's harmful one has to prove it is harmful.

Oh and not all dogs kill, the ones that do get put to sleep.

Has secondary smoke been proved to be harmful?

 

[manu1959]

It depends.

of course it depends. an owners insurance will/can go down because of risks and there is also a health issue.

smoker's rights is a red herring

Not seeing how that is relevant. An apartment building owner can choose to pay the extra premium. It would be more complicated in a condo owner's case...but I'd hate to see laws that make no man's home his castle.

And I still fail to see how second hand smoke can travel through walls. Methinks the man in the story is full of shit and a self-righteous teetotaller type.

the smoke travels through the duct work some of it is not isolated from other untis and through the outlets into the wall and ceiling cavities.....

 

[Father Time]

And truthfully, you shouldn't be able to BBQ if these laws are consistent. I'd imagine BBQ fumes were more harmful overall than second hand cigarette smoke.

And seriously, dogs. Dogs have been known to kill.

You'd imagine, I hate to rain on your parade but to get something banned because it's harmful one has to prove it is harmful.

Oh and not all dogs kill, the ones that do get put to sleep.

Has secondary smoke been proved to be harmful?

I have no idea. I haven't seen any of the research for or against.

Although assuming it has the ban on smoking in bars is still idiotic in my opinion.

 

[manu1959]

You'd imagine, I hate to rain on your parade but to get something banned because it's harmful one has to prove it is harmful.

Oh and not all dogs kill, the ones that do get put to sleep.

Has secondary smoke been proved to be harmful?

I have no idea. I haven't seen any of the research for or against.

Although assuming it has the ban on smoking in bars is still idiotic in my opinion.

you ever tended bar in a smoking bar......

 

[Valerie]

What if he wants to run a no homosexual establishment? Is he welcome to do that too?

You really can't see the difference?

 

[tobetbaa]

It's about time !

 

[tigerbob]

Has secondary smoke been proved to be harmful?

I have no idea. I haven't seen any of the research for or against.

Although assuming it has the ban on smoking in bars is still idiotic in my opinion.

you ever tended bar in a smoking bar......

Yes.

 

[tigerbob]

It's about time !

For what, and why?

 

[manu1959]

I have no idea. I haven't seen any of the research for or against.

Although assuming it has the ban on smoking in bars is still idiotic in my opinion.

you ever tended bar in a smoking bar......

Yes.

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

 

[tigerbob]

you ever tended bar in a smoking bar......

Yes.

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

Was in the late 80s, so kinda hard to remember, but as I recall....
Eyes - sometimes.
Skin - never noticed.
Clothes - if you're a non smoker, yes.
Lungs - don't know.

 

[manu1959]

Yes.

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

Was in the late 80s, so kinda hard to remember, but as I recall....
Eyes - sometimes.
Skin - never noticed.
Clothes - if you're a non smoker, yes.
Lungs - don't know.

did you smoke then.....

 

[tigerbob]

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

Was in the late 80s, so kinda hard to remember, but as I recall....
Eyes - sometimes.
Skin - never noticed.
Clothes - if you're a non smoker, yes.
Lungs - don't know.

did you smoke then.....

Yes.

 

[manu1959]

Was in the late 80s, so kinda hard to remember, but as I recall....
Eyes - sometimes.
Skin - never noticed.
Clothes - if you're a non smoker, yes.
Lungs - don't know.

did you smoke then.....

Yes.

me too....quit years ago.....skin looks younger cough less ....breathe better......can't imagine a non-smoking bartender would be affected similar to a smoker.....

 

[tigerbob]

did you smoke then.....

Yes.

me too....quit years ago.....skin looks younger cough less ....breathe better......can't imagine a non-smoking bartender would be affected similar to a smoker.....

Agree, but whether it causes long term harm or is just short term unpleasant is the question, for me anyway.

 

[Ravi]

of course it depends. an owners insurance will/can go down because of risks and there is also a health issue.

smoker's rights is a red herring

Not seeing how that is relevant. An apartment building owner can choose to pay the extra premium. It would be more complicated in a condo owner's case...but I'd hate to see laws that make no man's home his castle.

And I still fail to see how second hand smoke can travel through walls. Methinks the man in the story is full of shit and a self-righteous teetotaller type.

the smoke travels through the duct work some of it is not isolated from other untis and through the outlets into the wall and ceiling cavities.....

When I lived in a townhouse the duct work was only recycling what was happening in my space and no one esle's.

 

[del]

you ever tended bar in a smoking bar......

Yes.

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

were you chained to the tap?
cry me a river.........

 

[manu1959]

Yes.

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

were you chained to the tap?
cry me a river.........

nope....are you arguing smoke is good for you......

 

[del]

pretty hard on the eyes, lungs, skin and clothes ...no?

were you chained to the tap?
cry me a river.........

nope....are you arguing smoke is good for you......

no, are you arguing that choices are bad for you?

 

[manu1959]

were you chained to the tap?
cry me a river.........

nope....are you arguing smoke is good for you......

no, are you arguing that choices are bad for you?

choosing incorrectly is......