So democrats do in fact advocate socialism

[Mr.Nick]

1st never said they had to go to public school. But they are required to go to school, whether its public private or home. So that we can have a better life and contribute more to society how dare they?!

Lots and lots of criminals have attended gubmint schools....Do they equally share the blame for that?

You can't blame the stupid for being stupid.

Some will figure their way out, most wont.. Most will go on and become loyal socialist minions and few will go my route.

 

[Oddball]

Well, so much for liberoidals denying that they're socialistic.

why would anyone? we have been socialistic nation since the founding. The battle has always been to what extent do we want it to be.

You thanked this post earlier today, agreeing that so-called "liberals" aren't socialistic and don't want socialism....That makes you a liar.

 

[Middleoftheroad]

1st never said they had to go to public school. But they are required to go to school, whether its public private or home. So that we can have a better life and contribute more to society how dare they?!

Lots and lots of criminals have attended gubmint schools....Do they equally share the blame for that?

Its the parents job to teach their children to not break the laws. Its also the parents job to dictate how well they do in school.

But actually let me clarify my position, cuz i'm sick of being called a liberal. Just because I am saying what is and what is not socialistic does NOT mean I agree with it. Personally I think that the department of education is a waste, I would like to see much more control be in the states hands, put simply, education is too big to be controlled by the federal government. The ONLY thing I think the federal government should be doing is making a general guideline , so that if a student moves from one state to another he doesn't get totally screwed, by being too far behind in a certain subject.
And more importantly, I'm not even sure that I care if children are forced to go to school. Do I think they should? Yes. Do I really care if Scott grew up on a farm and wants to be a farmer and he and his parents feel that the last couple years of high school would be a waste. Should he be forced to go? Honestly I don't think I can say I do care, and I guess if i don't care then I wouldn't force him to go.

 

[Mr.Nick]

No Germany is just authoritarian..

But yeah, Mao, Stalin, HITLER, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il, Castro, Kim Il-Sung, Ho Chi Minh...

Want more??

Germany also pays a lot more taxes than we do. A LOT more.

They are paying 42%, and they get a whole lot more benefits than we do and work less hours in a week. And the tax is closer than you think. In Germany when you buy a home, you are taxed one time. Here it is a yearly ritual of thosands of dollars.

At least here you have freedom..

We're also three times the size of Germany...

 

[shintao]

Never did understand how the military is socialism.

The Military is simply the military.

And it's socialist.

What part of that are you having trouble with.

The Brits used a partially privatized army in the revolution.

Hessians.

The United States is an all volunteer military..

One could argue the draft is socialism.

In the strong majority of socialist nations "serving" is mandatory.

It is here if you are an American and can take the oath to the American Creed. Here we take the voluntary guys and force them to be extended and deny them leaving the service, or bribe them with bonuses and benefits.

 

[shintao]

Germany also pays a lot more taxes than we do. A LOT more.

They are paying 42%, and they get a whole lot more benefits than we do and work less hours in a week. And the tax is closer than you think. In Germany when you buy a home, you are taxed one time. Here it is a yearly ritual of thosands of dollars.

At least here you have freedom..

We're also three times the size of Germany...

They have freedom there as well, and take those 45 day mandatory vacations all over the globe, or relocate if they wish. Speaking of free, they have free cable TV.

And what does being three times bigger mean? That we have three times as much cash, yet we don't give our citizens free medical, 200+ computerized autobahns & bullet trains, or a living wage retirement, etc.

While capitalism demands you go fight wars, socialist country's improve their lot and country, leaving America in the dirt and trillions of dollars in debt to communist country's. We are the biggest debtor nation in the world, with workers who work longer hours for less, and pay taxes that offer little in benefits.

We could be technically advanced like the EU, it is only a state of mind in how we allow government to prioritize our assets.

 

[Mr.Nick]

And it's socialist.

What part of that are you having trouble with.

The Brits used a partially privatized army in the revolution.

Hessians.

The United States is an all volunteer military..

One could argue the draft is socialism.

In the strong majority of socialist nations "serving" is mandatory.

It is here if you are an American and can take the oath to the American Creed. Here we take the voluntary guys and force them to be extended and deny them leaving the service, or bribe them with bonuses and benefits.

People have free will - you just say no..

Temptation is the root of all evil..

People need to think before they act...

 

[Neotrotsky]

As a percentage of GDP, the US debt is less than European countries

I believe for modern countries, Japan has the highest Debt/ GDP ratios

 

[Oddball]

The United States is an all volunteer military..

One could argue the draft is socialism.

In the strong majority of socialist nations "serving" is mandatory.

It is here if you are an American and can take the oath to the American Creed. Here we take the voluntary guys and force them to be extended and deny them leaving the service, or bribe them with bonuses and benefits.

People have free will - you just say no..

Temptation is the root of all evil..

People need to think before they act...

Notice what has happened in a little more than 24 hours.....

Liberoidal democratics have gone from outright denial that they are in fact promoting socialism, to admitting the undeniable fact then claiming that the framers of the American republic were themselves socialists.

Well, I suppose the goalposts weren't going to move themselves.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

The size of the country means nothing, dimwit. It's that we have Pubs and a lot of dumb people that believe their BS.

 

[shintao]

As a percentage of GDP, the US debt is less than European countries

I believe for modern countries, Japan has the highest Debt/ GDP ratios

The International Monetary Fund disagrees.

IMF debt to GDP Ratio

Germany 74.3
USA 92.7

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_public_debt

 

[Oddball]

The size of the country means nothing, dimwit. It's that we have Pubs and a lot of dumb people that believe their BS.

STFU, Euroweenie.

 

[Mr.Nick]

They are paying 42%, and they get a whole lot more benefits than we do and work less hours in a week. And the tax is closer than you think. In Germany when you buy a home, you are taxed one time. Here it is a yearly ritual of thosands of dollars.

At least here you have freedom..

We're also three times the size of Germany...

They have freedom there as well, and take those 45 day mandatory vacations all over the globe, or relocate if they wish. Speaking of free, they have free cable TV.

And what does being three times bigger mean? That we have three times as much cash, yet we don't give our citizens free medical, 200+ computerized autobahns & bullet trains, or a living wage retirement, etc.

While capitalism demands you go fight wars, socialist country's improve their lot and country, leaving America in the dirt and trillions of dollars in debt to communist country's. We are the biggest debtor nation in the world, with workers who work longer hours for less, and pay taxes that offer little in benefits.

We could be technically advanced like the EU, it is only a state of mind in how we allow government to prioritize our assets.

You ever been to a major US city??

There is an entire government dependent populace living in them.

The majority of those motherfuckers couldn't pass a 5th grade test.

Those motherfuckers are useless.

How the fuck are we supposed to give people free this and that when 25% of the population is lazy???

Economies are based on production - which is why in real socialism if you don't pull your weight you're culled.

This is why soft ass socialism FAILS and Germany will FAIL...

If free energy is impossible then so is free goods and services for the lazy that consume. It takes manpower to create goods and services and those who are fucking lazy drain those resources.

Why the fuck do you think guys like Stalin killed all those people for???

It wasn't because he was sadistic (per se) it was because he didn't have enough resources to take care of his supporters...

When you don't have enough in socialism you purge and cull.

Look at what Castro did in 1979-80... He couldn't afford to provide for his people so he purged his prisons, and people in general and told criminals to go swim to America... Thats why Florida is so Cuban.

Oh, and three times the size means three times the fucking problems and three times the authoritarianism it will take to create an obedient populace.

 

[shintao]

It is here if you are an American and can take the oath to the American Creed. Here we take the voluntary guys and force them to be extended and deny them leaving the service, or bribe them with bonuses and benefits.

People have free will - you just say no..

Temptation is the root of all evil..

People need to think before they act...

Notice what has happened in a little more than 24 hours.....

Liberoidal democratics have gone from outright denial that they are in fact promoting socialism, to admitting the undeniable fact then claiming that the framers of the American republic were themselves socialists.

Well, I suppose the goalposts weren't going to move themselves.

Yes, even you have to admit to living in a socialist country.

 

[Oddball]

People have free will - you just say no..

Temptation is the root of all evil..

People need to think before they act...

Notice what has happened in a little more than 24 hours.....

Liberoidal democratics have gone from outright denial that they are in fact promoting socialism, to admitting the undeniable fact then claiming that the framers of the American republic were themselves socialists.

Well, I suppose the goalposts weren't going to move themselves.

Yes, even you have to admit to living in a socialist country.

Not by either choice nor original design....And a situation I would very much like to see remedied.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Stalin was a COMMUNIST, you STUPID Ugly 'Merican PUB Dupe. JFC!

Japan is at 270%- this is a farce!! But thanks for the fraud, bubble, and DEPRESSION, AGAIN. Pub Dupes- so fegging STUPID!!

 

[Moonglow]

It is here if you are an American and can take the oath to the American Creed. Here we take the voluntary guys and force them to be extended and deny them leaving the service, or bribe them with bonuses and benefits.

People have free will - you just say no..

Temptation is the root of all evil..

People need to think before they act...

Notice what has happened in a little more than 24 hours.....

Liberoidal democratics have gone from outright denial that they are in fact promoting socialism, to admitting the undeniable fact then claiming that the framers of the American republic were themselves socialists.

Well, I suppose the goalposts weren't going to move themselves.

you do know what socialism is, don't you?

 

[Oddball]

Yes, even you have to admit to living in a socialist country.

Not by either choice nor original design....And a situation I would very much like to see remedied.

then leave,and yes by design......you moron.

I'm not the moocher who wants to live like a Euroweenie, Euroweenie wannabe.

You want to live like them, go live with them.

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Castro is a COMMUNIST, you braindead fuq, not a socialist.....They figure now Pubs AND PUB DUPES qualify as sociopaths they hate so much and are so thick. TY Ronnie Rayguns, etc.

 

[shintao]

This little Union is out exporting America

The EU had 1.8 Trillion in Exports in 2010
The US had 1.2 Trillion in exports in 2010