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So....how many posters do we have who have heard of this INCEL Movement?

What is missing from these "discussions" of heterosexuality and sexual health is honest discussion, leaving aggression at the door. If one can have sex in the bedroom, one can have an honest discussion in the kitchen. The idea is not only to talk about what you want, it is also to sit down and listen to how the other person feels and what s/he wants. It takes commitment and work. To those "religious" folks who think that sex is just fucking, like they continually portray it, it's not.
What is your opinion of simply "flipping a coin"? Heads, you get it Your way and Tails, i get it My way.
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
 
Would women make the same choices they do, if they could instead, opt for unemployment compensation should they find themselves unemployed and needing an income?

Who knows. But I am pretty sure they will not pass laws allowing people to draw unemployment when they are not looking for a job and quit their last job. They certainly won't do it so women will be easier for you to seduce. And women certainly wouldn't make a choice of you unless you have something to offer.
You have no real reason. Why should I take you seriously?

I don't think women would act the same way, if money was less of an issue.

I think things would be much the same. Just because you have an income doesn't mean you have all you want.

And just because she isn't necessarily looking for someone to support her, doesn't mean she doesn't still have standards for a partner.
 
Oh please. Now you are denying it? That is hilarious.
you just make up your own stories, right winger. nothing but straw men and red herrings while alleging, learning how to fish is important in modern information age times.

YOu make the same accusations and have the same refusal to point out which posts contain stories or logical fallacies.
nothing but hearsay and gossip, dear?

Men have arguments.

Your arguments are laughable and your denial of what you have said is just sad. Here are comments you have made in this thread:

“.not for me. I simply refuse to get serious if women can "do all of the other ones and not me."”

“Why should guys have to try harder for twat than women do for dick, if we only want twat?”

“We know women know how to talk and how to make appointments!”

“Does it merely take the equality of gangs of women fornicating men until we proclaim, Woe is we, we cannot handle uncommitted sex any more and need to, get serious.”

“equal work for equal pay. i should have girl friends who share the same interests.”

“Women are worse and cannot handle it even for the sake of equality.”

“...free full body massage with Happy ending and g-spot focus work for right wing women willing to vote blue, next election cycle!
how about some, equality, chics. “

“...in my case, it is more about equality.”

“...in my case, it is more about equality. i really am quite bashful due to my low numbers and lack of practice. if women were more equal, entire gangs of them should enjoy, "breaking in the new guy."”

“why should i believe Any woman who has already enjoyed a gangbang? you all have to have lower numbers and less practice than me, for Me to take You, seriously.”
..your alleged point about equality is?

i am not the "floozy who gets harassed for sex instead of really really serious relationships."

Its hard to take you seriously about not being a floozy when you have spent so much time offering free nude massage and g-spot play for any women willing to make an appointment.
 
What is missing from these "discussions" of heterosexuality and sexual health is honest discussion, leaving aggression at the door. If one can have sex in the bedroom, one can have an honest discussion in the kitchen. The idea is not only to talk about what you want, it is also to sit down and listen to how the other person feels and what s/he wants. It takes commitment and work. To those "religious" folks who think that sex is just fucking, like they continually portray it, it's not.
What is your opinion of simply "flipping a coin"? Heads, you get it Your way and Tails, i get it My way.
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.
 
Would women make the same choices they do, if they could instead, opt for unemployment compensation should they find themselves unemployed and needing an income?

Who knows. But I am pretty sure they will not pass laws allowing people to draw unemployment when they are not looking for a job and quit their last job. They certainly won't do it so women will be easier for you to seduce. And women certainly wouldn't make a choice of you unless you have something to offer.
You have no real reason. Why should I take you seriously?

I don't think women would act the same way, if money was less of an issue.

I think things would be much the same. Just because you have an income doesn't mean you have all you want.

And just because she isn't necessarily looking for someone to support her, doesn't mean she doesn't still have standards for a partner.
i think things would be much more different.
 
Would women make the same choices they do, if they could instead, opt for unemployment compensation should they find themselves unemployed and needing an income?

Who knows. But I am pretty sure they will not pass laws allowing people to draw unemployment when they are not looking for a job and quit their last job. They certainly won't do it so women will be easier for you to seduce. And women certainly wouldn't make a choice of you unless you have something to offer.
You have no real reason. Why should I take you seriously?

I don't think women would act the same way, if money was less of an issue.

No real reason? Do you think this new unemployment will be enough for her to eat out often? Drive a nice car? Go on nice vacations? Go shopping?
 
you just make up your own stories, right winger. nothing but straw men and red herrings while alleging, learning how to fish is important in modern information age times.

YOu make the same accusations and have the same refusal to point out which posts contain stories or logical fallacies.
nothing but hearsay and gossip, dear?

Men have arguments.

Your arguments are laughable and your denial of what you have said is just sad. Here are comments you have made in this thread:

“.not for me. I simply refuse to get serious if women can "do all of the other ones and not me."”

“Why should guys have to try harder for twat than women do for dick, if we only want twat?”

“We know women know how to talk and how to make appointments!”

“Does it merely take the equality of gangs of women fornicating men until we proclaim, Woe is we, we cannot handle uncommitted sex any more and need to, get serious.”

“equal work for equal pay. i should have girl friends who share the same interests.”

“Women are worse and cannot handle it even for the sake of equality.”

“...free full body massage with Happy ending and g-spot focus work for right wing women willing to vote blue, next election cycle!
how about some, equality, chics. “

“...in my case, it is more about equality.”

“...in my case, it is more about equality. i really am quite bashful due to my low numbers and lack of practice. if women were more equal, entire gangs of them should enjoy, "breaking in the new guy."”

“why should i believe Any woman who has already enjoyed a gangbang? you all have to have lower numbers and less practice than me, for Me to take You, seriously.”
..your alleged point about equality is?

i am not the "floozy who gets harassed for sex instead of really really serious relationships."

Its hard to take you seriously about not being a floozy when you have spent so much time offering free nude massage and g-spot play for any women willing to make an appointment.
lol. all Talk, right winger. i have the lowest numbers and least amount of practice.
 
Would women make the same choices they do, if they could instead, opt for unemployment compensation should they find themselves unemployed and needing an income?

Who knows. But I am pretty sure they will not pass laws allowing people to draw unemployment when they are not looking for a job and quit their last job. They certainly won't do it so women will be easier for you to seduce. And women certainly wouldn't make a choice of you unless you have something to offer.
You have no real reason. Why should I take you seriously?

I don't think women would act the same way, if money was less of an issue.

No real reason? Do you think this new unemployment will be enough for her to eat out often? Drive a nice car? Go on nice vacations? Go shopping?
You are the one saying that, not me.
 
What is missing from these "discussions" of heterosexuality and sexual health is honest discussion, leaving aggression at the door. If one can have sex in the bedroom, one can have an honest discussion in the kitchen. The idea is not only to talk about what you want, it is also to sit down and listen to how the other person feels and what s/he wants. It takes commitment and work. To those "religious" folks who think that sex is just fucking, like they continually portray it, it's not.
What is your opinion of simply "flipping a coin"? Heads, you get it Your way and Tails, i get it My way.
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
 
Would women make the same choices they do, if they could instead, opt for unemployment compensation should they find themselves unemployed and needing an income?

Who knows. But I am pretty sure they will not pass laws allowing people to draw unemployment when they are not looking for a job and quit their last job. They certainly won't do it so women will be easier for you to seduce. And women certainly wouldn't make a choice of you unless you have something to offer.
You have no real reason. Why should I take you seriously?

I don't think women would act the same way, if money was less of an issue.

No real reason? Do you think this new unemployment will be enough for her to eat out often? Drive a nice car? Go on nice vacations? Go shopping?
You are the one saying that, not me.

Yes, I am saying that. Younger women want a guy who can do things, take them places, go on vacations. And despite what your profile says, you are certainly not in your mid 50s. I think you claimed you are 56? LMAO!
 
YOu make the same accusations and have the same refusal to point out which posts contain stories or logical fallacies.
nothing but hearsay and gossip, dear?

Men have arguments.

Your arguments are laughable and your denial of what you have said is just sad. Here are comments you have made in this thread:

“.not for me. I simply refuse to get serious if women can "do all of the other ones and not me."”

“Why should guys have to try harder for twat than women do for dick, if we only want twat?”

“We know women know how to talk and how to make appointments!”

“Does it merely take the equality of gangs of women fornicating men until we proclaim, Woe is we, we cannot handle uncommitted sex any more and need to, get serious.”

“equal work for equal pay. i should have girl friends who share the same interests.”

“Women are worse and cannot handle it even for the sake of equality.”

“...free full body massage with Happy ending and g-spot focus work for right wing women willing to vote blue, next election cycle!
how about some, equality, chics. “

“...in my case, it is more about equality.”

“...in my case, it is more about equality. i really am quite bashful due to my low numbers and lack of practice. if women were more equal, entire gangs of them should enjoy, "breaking in the new guy."”

“why should i believe Any woman who has already enjoyed a gangbang? you all have to have lower numbers and less practice than me, for Me to take You, seriously.”
..your alleged point about equality is?

i am not the "floozy who gets harassed for sex instead of really really serious relationships."

Its hard to take you seriously about not being a floozy when you have spent so much time offering free nude massage and g-spot play for any women willing to make an appointment.
lol. all Talk, right winger. i have the lowest numbers and least amount of practice.

Yes, all talk from someone who has not gotten laid and has the least amount of experience. So who do you think knows more? The one with little experience and low numbers or the one with plenty of experience and higher numbers?
 
Dragonlady said:
They had no interest in socializing with women, or getting to know them, or building relationships. They didn’t even like women. They just wanted them to lay down and spread their legs..
They Think Their Porn Is REAL !!

Enough Of That
I Once Stumbled Across A Cite For Deliberately Celibate
It Was Interesting....
They Point To The Holy Men Of India
The Holy Men Don't Cut Their Hair, Nails
Or Loose Semen As It's All A Loss Of Their Spiritual Essence
There Were Links To Other Brother Sites
Plus They Have YouTube Videos
They Also Seemed Versed In The Bible
It Was All Interesting, As I Said
But Then They Got All Upset When I Pointed Out Simple Things
That Proves The World Isn't FLAT
That Their Photo 'Evidence' Is Camera Lens Tricks

It Seemed Their Site Was On It's Last Legs Anyway
I Dropped The Bookmark, And I Haven't Been Back
 
And again: let’s remember the fact that INCEL is part of the conservative movement, of the right’s hostility toward women who aren’t sufficiently ‘compliant’ or ‘submissive,’ and of the misogyny common to far too many on the right – Trump in particular.

The right’s “hostility” towards women? Conservatives believe in taking care of their women, and raising their children into responsible adults.

Regressives are the ones who encourage women to abort their babies and take up careers during their child bearing years, which just leaves them childless and miserable in their later years.

Regressives are the ones that discourage personal responsibility, leaving many women as single mothers.

Regressives are the ones that hate women so much they replace them with men pretending to be women.

Regressives are the ones that want to disarm women by taking away their right to own firearms, leaving them vulnerable to thugs and rapists.

Regressives are the ones that love Islam, a backwards ideology that treats women like livestock.

Nobody hates women more than regressive leftwingers.
 
What is your opinion of simply "flipping a coin"? Heads, you get it Your way and Tails, i get it My way.
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
i don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made.
 
nothing but hearsay and gossip, dear?

Men have arguments.

Your arguments are laughable and your denial of what you have said is just sad. Here are comments you have made in this thread:

“.not for me. I simply refuse to get serious if women can "do all of the other ones and not me."”

“Why should guys have to try harder for twat than women do for dick, if we only want twat?”

“We know women know how to talk and how to make appointments!”

“Does it merely take the equality of gangs of women fornicating men until we proclaim, Woe is we, we cannot handle uncommitted sex any more and need to, get serious.”

“equal work for equal pay. i should have girl friends who share the same interests.”

“Women are worse and cannot handle it even for the sake of equality.”

“...free full body massage with Happy ending and g-spot focus work for right wing women willing to vote blue, next election cycle!
how about some, equality, chics. “

“...in my case, it is more about equality.”

“...in my case, it is more about equality. i really am quite bashful due to my low numbers and lack of practice. if women were more equal, entire gangs of them should enjoy, "breaking in the new guy."”

“why should i believe Any woman who has already enjoyed a gangbang? you all have to have lower numbers and less practice than me, for Me to take You, seriously.”
..your alleged point about equality is?

i am not the "floozy who gets harassed for sex instead of really really serious relationships."

Its hard to take you seriously about not being a floozy when you have spent so much time offering free nude massage and g-spot play for any women willing to make an appointment.
lol. all Talk, right winger. i have the lowest numbers and least amount of practice.

Yes, all talk from someone who has not gotten laid and has the least amount of experience. So who do you think knows more? The one with little experience and low numbers or the one with plenty of experience and higher numbers?
it must mean, i am the most moral, if not the most holy through that practice.
 
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
i don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made.

I bet she doesn't mind cancelling the sex if you insist on her doing something she doesn't want to do.
 
I never mentioned "flipping a coin." Have a sit-down and look into each other's eyes and listen. If you are supposed to be "committed," then commit. Do vows mean nothing? One commits to these vows for all his or her life. When you go to the Christian altar, the Jewish chappah, and the sacred rites of all other religions, it is a commitment of one person to another.
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
i don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made.

If she agrees to the coin flip you are fine, if she doesn't? You don't get screwed.
 
Your arguments are laughable and your denial of what you have said is just sad. Here are comments you have made in this thread:

“.not for me. I simply refuse to get serious if women can "do all of the other ones and not me."”

“Why should guys have to try harder for twat than women do for dick, if we only want twat?”

“We know women know how to talk and how to make appointments!”

“Does it merely take the equality of gangs of women fornicating men until we proclaim, Woe is we, we cannot handle uncommitted sex any more and need to, get serious.”

“equal work for equal pay. i should have girl friends who share the same interests.”

“Women are worse and cannot handle it even for the sake of equality.”

“...free full body massage with Happy ending and g-spot focus work for right wing women willing to vote blue, next election cycle!
how about some, equality, chics. “

“...in my case, it is more about equality.”

“...in my case, it is more about equality. i really am quite bashful due to my low numbers and lack of practice. if women were more equal, entire gangs of them should enjoy, "breaking in the new guy."”

“why should i believe Any woman who has already enjoyed a gangbang? you all have to have lower numbers and less practice than me, for Me to take You, seriously.”
..your alleged point about equality is?

i am not the "floozy who gets harassed for sex instead of really really serious relationships."

Its hard to take you seriously about not being a floozy when you have spent so much time offering free nude massage and g-spot play for any women willing to make an appointment.
lol. all Talk, right winger. i have the lowest numbers and least amount of practice.

Yes, all talk from someone who has not gotten laid and has the least amount of experience. So who do you think knows more? The one with little experience and low numbers or the one with plenty of experience and higher numbers?
it must mean, i am the most moral, if not the most holy through that practice.

If you had low numbers because you made a choice. It isn't by your choice. You've made that clear.
 
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
i don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made.

I bet she doesn't mind cancelling the sex if you insist on her doing something she doesn't want to do.

Crazy isn't it? Trying to give advice to a guy that can't write out his complete thoughts.
 
I mean regarding "problem resolution" when you both, "want it Your way."

You talk it out. Anything that either person puts as off limits is off limits. If there is something that either person doesn't want to do, you don't do it.
that is easier said than done. i don't mind, flipping a coin if we both are being obstinate.

No. If she doesn't want certain things, you live with it. The same goes for things you want. That is it. No one should ever do anything they don't want to do.
i don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made.

I bet she doesn't mind cancelling the sex if you insist on her doing something she doesn't want to do.
You keep insisting on making it sexual. I don't mind flipping a coin if a decision needs to be made sooner rather than later.
 

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