So What's All This 'CIA-Worship' About??...

[Nosmo King]

to discuss what exactly?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe why his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, foreign policy advisor and others had so many meetings with Russians!

Hillary Clinton actually paid a British National and Russians to produce a phony dossier on Trump. So if we're gonna talk 'Collusion', Clinton will have to be prosecuted as well.

There was nothing phony about the Steele Dossier. It has proven to be 100% accurate.

Clinton did not collude with a foreign government to undermine the U.S. elections, she did nothing illegal (except in your dreams)

Good try at deflection! Didn't work.

when did that happen? Comey under oath said it had never been verified. How is it you all on a message board have details the FBI that got it didn't. wow. I am amazed at your standing.

Are you living in a shell?

Manaforte's meeting and Trump junior's meetings all happened. The more we find out about the Nueller investigation, the more we find out that the Steele dossier was 100% accurate.

Stuff Fox News won't tell you.

 

[jc456]

Who but sycophants can possibly trust Trump? He is forced by smarter advisors to walk back his mistakes.

If you idiots can trust Trump to meet privately with the likes of Putin and Kim, why can't Trump be trusted to sit down with Robert Mueller?

You got a point there.

what would they discuss? Got to have an agenda, the president has asked. Mueller never told him. why? It seems Mueller backed out.

Mueller would have a tape recorder and play it. Not a good idea for Trump.

I don't think that matters at all. what's the agenda? you all are making the claim, what is the agenda? why can't you fking morons ever fking back your fking posts up? what a pure bread bunch of losers.

Read the indictments!

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

why would trump want to discuss the indictment of russians? that doesn't seem worth his time. I wouldn't meet either. got nothing else eh?

 

[Dschrute3]

1973

Chile — The CIA overthrows and assassinates Salvador Allende, Latin America’s first democratically elected socialist leader. The problems begin when Allende nationalizes American-owned firms in Chile. ITT offers the CIA $1 million for a coup (reportedly refused). The CIA replaces Allende with General Augusto Pinochet, who will torture and murder thousands of his own countrymen in a crackdown on labor leaders and the political left.

CIA begins internal investigations — William Colby, the Deputy Director for Operations, orders all CIA personnel to report any and all illegal activities they know about. This information is later reported to Congress.

Watergate Scandal — The CIA’s main collaborating newspaper in America, The Washington Post, reports Nixon’s crimes long before any other newspaper takes up the subject. The two reporters, Woodward and Bernstein, make almost no mention of the CIA’s many fingerprints all over the scandal. It is later revealed that Woodward was a Naval intelligence briefer to the White House, and knows many important intelligence figures, including General Alexander Haig. His main source, "Deep Throat," is probably one of those.

CIA Director Helms Fired — President Nixon fires CIA Director Richard Helms for failing to help cover up the Watergate scandal. Helms and Nixon have always disliked each other. The new CIA director is William Colby, who is relatively more open to CIA reform...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

 

[Nosmo King]

You got a point there.

what would they discuss? Got to have an agenda, the president has asked. Mueller never told him. why? It seems Mueller backed out.

Mueller would have a tape recorder and play it. Not a good idea for Trump.

I don't think that matters at all. what's the agenda? you all are making the claim, what is the agenda? why can't you fking morons ever fking back your fking posts up? what a pure bread bunch of losers.

Read the indictments!

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

why would trump want to discuss the indictment of russians? that doesn't seem worth his time. I wouldn't meet either. got nothing else eh?

Why would you trust Trump to meet privately with the likes of Putin and Kim, but not Mueller?

 

[jc456]

to discuss what exactly?

Oh, I don't know. Maybe why his son, son-in-law, campaign manager, foreign policy advisor and others had so many meetings with Russians!

Hillary Clinton actually paid a British National and Russians to produce a phony dossier on Trump. So if we're gonna talk 'Collusion', Clinton will have to be prosecuted as well.

There was nothing phony about the Steele Dossier. It has proven to be 100% accurate.

Clinton did not collude with a foreign government to undermine the U.S. elections, she did nothing illegal (except in your dreams)

Good try at deflection! Didn't work.

when did that happen? Comey under oath said it had never been verified. How is it you all on a message board have details the FBI that got it didn't. wow. I am amazed at your standing.

Are you living in a shell?

Manaforte's meeting and Trump junior's meetings all happened. The more we find out about the Nueller investigation, the more we find out that the Steele dossier was 100% accurate.

huh? you're losing bubba. again, Comey under oath said the dossier was never verified. Are you saying he lied? cause all the stuff you just wrote he knew about. he claimed it wasn't verified. so again, you got more info than our intelligence. wow.

 

[jc456]

You got a point there.

what would they discuss? Got to have an agenda, the president has asked. Mueller never told him. why? It seems Mueller backed out.

Mueller would have a tape recorder and play it. Not a good idea for Trump.

I don't think that matters at all. what's the agenda? you all are making the claim, what is the agenda? why can't you fking morons ever fking back your fking posts up? what a pure bread bunch of losers.

Read the indictments!

https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download

You're attempting reason with JC? Of stout heart are ye.

there is no possible way you would ever be able to keep up with me. I use logic and facts. you don't.,It's why you lose every argument in here.

 

[Dschrute3]

I'm actually astounded so many Americans still believe the CIA represents freedom and Democracy. It's violently overthrown countless Democratically-Elected Governments all over the world.

 

[Dschrute3]

1974

CHAOS exposed — Pulitzer prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh publishes a story about Operation CHAOS, the domestic surveillance and infiltration of anti-war and civil rights groups in the U.S. The story sparks national outrage.

Angleton fired — Congress holds hearings on the illegal domestic spying efforts of James Jesus Angleton, the CIA’s chief of counterintelligence. His efforts included mail-opening campaigns and secret surveillance of war protesters. The hearings result in his dismissal from the CIA...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

 

[bendog]

1972

The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective.

Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia.

Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

I would be wary of laying the atrocities blame on the CIA in Vietnam. Prior to JFK's assassination, we were primarily looking for a non-communist alternative ... whether we would have seen that any western alternative was doomed because the French had been the colonial power, even before Japan, and Ho fought them both ... and won.

LBJ saw Vietnam as a means to be tougher on commies than Goldwater. Towards the end LBJ sought a political rather than military solution .... but Nixon torpedoed it .. which was blatantly illegal and should have seen him impeached in his first term. Nixon used the war as a political tool in his McCarthyesque use of foreign policy to hold onto political power.

The cia did the bidding of four (actually 5) presidential adminsistrations. It's policies varied with the instructions it was given.

Not a hightide of American exceptionalism.

 

[Care4all]

i don't know , yes , i have heard of the syphlis experiments but never thought much about them . My dislike for the 'cia' is based on knowing that 'brennan' a voter for a communist in 1976 and a possible muslim convert and he was a 'cia' chief . That is enough reason for me to be wary of the 'cia' . And then there is an earlier 'cia' chief and now retired 'micheal hayden' who currently works to impose gun control on Americans while being a member of the 'giffords' gun control group . 'hayden' is also pro immigration Deshrute .

Brennan is clearly a Democrat stooge. He worked tirelessly to take Trump out. And that's not a CIA role. What Brennan did, was illegal and Treasonous.

poor baby! things aren't going your way, eh?

I thought it was the FBI and the special counsel you were pissed at for discovering your agents and president vlad were behind the election hacks? So why the animosity towards the CIA now all of a sudden? What did I miss?

 

[Dschrute3]

1975

Australia — The CIA helps topple the democratically elected, left-leaning government of Prime Minister Edward Whitlam. The CIA does this by giving an ultimatum to its Governor-General, John Kerr. Kerr, a longtime CIA collaborator, exercises his constitutional right to dissolve the Whitlam government. The Governor-General is a largely ceremonial position appointed by the Queen; the Prime Minister is democratically elected. The use of this archaic and never-used law stuns the nation...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

 

[Dschrute3]

1972

The Case-Zablocki Act — Congress passes an act requiring congressional review of executive agreements. In theory, this should make CIA operations more accountable. In fact, it is only marginally effective.

Cambodia — Congress votes to cut off CIA funds for its secret war in Cambodia.

Wagergate Break-in — President Nixon sends in a team of burglars to wiretap Democratic offices at Watergate. The team members have extensive CIA histories, including James McCord, E. Howard Hunt and five of the Cuban burglars. They work for the Committee to Reelect the President (CREEP), which does dirty work like disrupting Democratic campaigns and laundering Nixon’s illegal campaign contributions. CREEP’s activities are funded and organized by another CIA front, the Mullen Company...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

I would be wary of laying the atrocities blame on the CIA in Vietnam. Prior to JFK's assassination, we were primarily looking for a non-communist alternative ... whether we would have seen that any western alternative was doomed because the French had been the colonial power, even before Japan, and Ho fought them both ... and won.

LBJ saw Vietnam as a means to be tougher on commies than Goldwater. Towards the end LBJ sought a political rather than military solution .... but Nixon torpedoed it .. which was blatantly illegal and should have seen him impeached in his first term. Nixon used the war as a political tool in his McCarthyesque use of foreign policy to hold onto political power.

The cia did the bidding of four (actually 5) presidential adminsistrations. It's policies varied with the instructions it was given.

Not a hightide of American exceptionalism.

Many believe the CIA murdered JFK.

 

[danielpalos]

I'm actually astounded so many Americans still believe the CIA represents freedom and Democracy. It's violently overthrown countless Democratically-Elected Governments all over the world.

at the behest of the right wing or the left wing?

 

[Dschrute3]

1975

Angola — Eager to demonstrate American military resolve after its defeat in Vietnam, Henry Kissinger launches a CIA-backed war in Angola. Contrary to Kissinger’s assertions, Angola is a country of little strategic importance and not seriously threatened by communism. The CIA backs the brutal leader of UNITAS, Jonas Savimbi. This polarizes Angolan politics and drives his opponents into the arms of Cuba and the Soviet Union for survival. Congress will cut off funds in 1976, but the CIA is able to run the war off the books until 1984, when funding is legalized again. This entirely pointless war kills over 300,000 Angolans.

"The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence" — Victor Marchetti and John Marks publish this whistle-blowing history of CIA crimes and abuses. Marchetti has spent 14 years in the CIA, eventually becoming an executive assistant to the Deputy Director of Intelligence. Marks has spent five years as an intelligence official in the State Department.

"Inside the Company" — Philip Agee publishes a diary of his life inside the CIA. Agee has worked in covert operations in Latin America during the 60s, and details the crimes in which he took part.

Congress investigates CIA wrong-doing — Public outrage compels Congress to hold hearings on CIA crimes. Senator Frank Church heads the Senate investigation ("The Church Committee"), and Representative Otis Pike heads the House investigation. (Despite a 98 percent incumbency reelection rate, both Church and Pike are defeated in the next elections.) The investigations lead to a number of reforms intended to increase the CIA’s accountability to Congress, including the creation of a standing Senate committee on intelligence. However, the reforms prove ineffective, as the Iran/Contra scandal will show. It turns out the CIA can control, deal with or sidestep Congress with ease...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

 

[danielpalos]

still have security problems in the world. we should have saved our money.

 

[Dschrute3]

I'm actually astounded so many Americans still believe the CIA represents freedom and Democracy. It's violently overthrown countless Democratically-Elected Governments all over the world.

at the behest of the right wing or the left wing?

Both seem to worship the CIA when it's convenient to do so.

 

[bendog]

i don't know , yes , i have heard of the syphlis experiments but never thought much about them . My dislike for the 'cia' is based on knowing that 'brennan' a voter for a communist in 1976 and a possible muslim convert and he was a 'cia' chief . That is enough reason for me to be wary of the 'cia' . And then there is an earlier 'cia' chief and now retired 'micheal hayden' who currently works to impose gun control on Americans while being a member of the 'giffords' gun control group . 'hayden' is also pro immigration Deshrute .

Brennan is clearly a Democrat stooge. He worked tirelessly to take Trump out. And that's not a CIA role. What Brennan did, was illegal and Treasonous.

poor baby! things aren't going your way, eh?

I thought it was the FBI and the special counsel you were pissed at for discovering your agents and president vlad were behind the election hacks? So why the animosity towards the CIA now all of a sudden? What did I miss?

Dschrute3 is not unreasonably wary of the neocons role in Ukraine. However, Putin had already declared his intentions though Georgia and the Baltics.

 

[Dschrute3]

i don't know , yes , i have heard of the syphlis experiments but never thought much about them . My dislike for the 'cia' is based on knowing that 'brennan' a voter for a communist in 1976 and a possible muslim convert and he was a 'cia' chief . That is enough reason for me to be wary of the 'cia' . And then there is an earlier 'cia' chief and now retired 'micheal hayden' who currently works to impose gun control on Americans while being a member of the 'giffords' gun control group . 'hayden' is also pro immigration Deshrute .

Brennan is clearly a Democrat stooge. He worked tirelessly to take Trump out. And that's not a CIA role. What Brennan did, was illegal and Treasonous.

poor baby! things aren't going your way, eh?

I thought it was the FBI and the special counsel you were pissed at for discovering your agents and president vlad were behind the election hacks? So why the animosity towards the CIA now all of a sudden? What did I miss?

Dschrute3 is not unreasonably wary of the neocons role in Ukraine. However, Putin had already declared his intentions though Georgia and the Baltics.

The illegal Coup in Ukraine was a US/Western-backed operation. It's what's led to the violent chaos there.

 

[Dschrute3]

Guess who was behind the rapid rise of violent Muslim extremism?

1979

Iran — The CIA fails to predict the fall of the Shah of Iran, a longtime CIA puppet, and the rise of Muslim fundamentalists who are furious at the CIA’s backing of SAVAK, the Shah’s bloodthirsty secret police. In revenge, the Muslims take 52 Americans hostage in the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Afghanistan — The Soviets invade Afghanistan. The CIA immediately begins supplying arms to any faction willing to fight the occupying Soviets. Such indiscriminate arming means that when the Soviets leave Afghanistan, civil war will erupt. Also, fanatical Muslim extremists now possess state-of-the-art weaponry. One of these is Sheik Abdel Rahman, who will become involved in the World Trade Center bombing in New York...

A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

 

[koshergrl]

The CIA is possibly the most evil entity on this planet. It's responsible for most of the carnage mayhem we see around the world. From violently overthrowing Democratically-Elected Governments, to starting numerous wars over several decades. It's been committing mass-murder for years.

So what is all this 'Worship' about? For instance, most Democrats i've ever talked to, were always vehemently Anti-CIA. Yet now they've suddenly become the most loyal CIA Bootlickers. So why the dramatic Flip-Flop? I'm really interested in hearing what folks think about this sudden 'CIA-Worship' craze. Because i find it both fascinating and disturbing. Anyway, feel free to weigh in. Thanks.

They don't know what they're doing.

But to recap....

They hate Trump.
They are okay with selling uranium to Russia, and land to the Chinese...
And they don't mind Obama giving billions to terrorists....

They're cool with federal agencies busting down the doors of the homes of ranchers, and setting up surveillance with snipers when the ranchers refuse to be extorted...

They're openly saying various federal agencies (except ICE) should exert lethal authority over the president and over anybody who voted for him...and that they should have the authority and power to do so...

Except ICE which they maintain is unconstitutional and should be shut down.

But if Trump dares to recognize the fact that the Democrats and the various federal agencies are rogue and not to be trusted, then that makes him a TRAITOR.

Oh and they hate trump.
And they hate the electoral college.
And they think the constitution doesn't really matter.
And they hate trump.