Socialism sucks! (Virus hits). Socialism save us!!

[Toddsterpatriot]

Commie insiders stealing state assets made Communism look good?

The Harvard Boys Do Russia

The privatization drive that was supposed to reap the fruits of the free market instead helped to create a system of tycoon capitalism run for the benefit of a corrupt political oligarchy that has appropriated hundreds of millions of dollars of Western aid and plundered Russia’s wealth.

That's much worse than when Communism helped to create a system of tycoon communism run for the benefit of a corrupt political oligarchy that has appropriated hundreds of millions of dollars of Western aid and plundered Russia’s wealth, eh comrade?

 

[Nostra]

 

[g5000]

.........Trump is not taking control over any aspect of the economy....

See post 443.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Got it. You have no example of a capitalist solution to Corona virus.

BTW: What do you mean by solution.

Capitalism and socialism have no solution for cancer either.

What are you talking about.

I'm asking for a capitalist solution to deal with our virus problem.

No, you are trolling because you are a blithering idiot hack troll.

Socialism is where American capitalism turns every time it tanks.

Why aren't you living in the socialist utopia of Venezuela?

We have our own socialism here for the aristocracy. Please review the history of US coup attempts, US assassination attempts, US sanctions, US interventions, and US economic warfare targeting the Venezuelan govt. And then go enjoy your empty shelves.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

It's all-American now.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

How is it PROGS consistently miss context? They tell us they're smart, they tell us they're educated, they tell us a lot..........Blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, yack yack yack yack yack.

 

[bripat9643]

BTW: What do you mean by solution.

Capitalism and socialism have no solution for cancer either.

What are you talking about.

I'm asking for a capitalist solution to deal with our virus problem.

No, you are trolling because you are a blithering idiot hack troll.

Socialism is where American capitalism turns every time it tanks.

Why aren't you living in the socialist utopia of Venezuela?

We have our own socialism here for the aristocracy. Please review the history of US coup attempts, US assassination attempts, US sanctions, US interventions, and US economic warfare targeting the Venezuelan govt. And then go enjoy your empty shelves.

ROFL! Turd, only a fucking commie would defend the government of Venezuela. All the so-called coup attempts, assasination attempts are fake news. They are propaganda. Venezuela is free to trade with every other country in the world.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

I'm asking for a capitalist solution to deal with our virus problem.

No, you are trolling because you are a blithering idiot hack troll.

Socialism is where American capitalism turns every time it tanks.

Why aren't you living in the socialist utopia of Venezuela?

We have our own socialism here for the aristocracy. Please review the history of US coup attempts, US assassination attempts, US sanctions, US interventions, and US economic warfare targeting the Venezuelan govt. And then go enjoy your empty shelves.

ROFL! Turd, only a fucking commie would defend the government of Venezuela. All the so-called coup attempts, assasination attempts are fake news. They are propaganda. Venezuela is free to trade with every other country in the world.

Stating historical fact is not supporting anything but objective reality, another in your endless string of tantrums notwithstanding.

How's "the hoax" developing?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What about the vast fortunes of the few at the top of communist/socialist nations?

"A joke circulating in Russia in 1992 went like this. Q: What did capitalism accomplish in one year that communism could not do in seventy years? A: Make communism look good.2"

Why doesn’t the Soviet Union exist any more? Part 7: Capitalist restoration was a disaster for the global working class - Invent the Future

It does not exist because commie does not work.

It was a disaster for the "working class" because the "working class" (aka people who don't want to work or improve themselves) finally had to....wait for it.......WORK!

Remember, the "economic system" you want, when pared down to its basic elements, is one hunter doing all the hunting, and those who are too lazy to hunt banning together to steal the hunter's food.

Communism/Socialism is an act of war whereby those who do not produce use government force to steal from those who do produce.

The result? Lots of death and shitty production.

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[bripat9643]

No, you are trolling because you are a blithering idiot hack troll.

Socialism is where American capitalism turns every time it tanks.

Why aren't you living in the socialist utopia of Venezuela?

We have our own socialism here for the aristocracy. Please review the history of US coup attempts, US assassination attempts, US sanctions, US interventions, and US economic warfare targeting the Venezuelan govt. And then go enjoy your empty shelves.

ROFL! Turd, only a fucking commie would defend the government of Venezuela. All the so-called coup attempts, assasination attempts are fake news. They are propaganda. Venezuela is free to trade with every other country in the world.

Stating historical fact is not supporting anything but objective reality, another in your endless string of tantrums notwithstanding.

How's "the hoax" developing?

The claim that Trump's family is corrupt is not objective reality. It's fake news.

 

[Bo Didleysquat]

Socialism is where American capitalism turns every time it tanks.

Why aren't you living in the socialist utopia of Venezuela?

We have our own socialism here for the aristocracy. Please review the history of US coup attempts, US assassination attempts, US sanctions, US interventions, and US economic warfare targeting the Venezuelan govt. And then go enjoy your empty shelves.

ROFL! Turd, only a fucking commie would defend the government of Venezuela. All the so-called coup attempts, assasination attempts are fake news. They are propaganda. Venezuela is free to trade with every other country in the world.

Stating historical fact is not supporting anything but objective reality, another in your endless string of tantrums notwithstanding.

How's "the hoax" developing?

The claim that Trump's family is corrupt is not objective reality. It's fake news.

Like the retroviral hoax?

 

[toobfreak]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers.

So what is your noise now, BULLQUACK, that the Right is all about Capitalism and the Left is about Socialism? You admitting the Democrats are the Commie Party?
Do you have any idea that if it wasn't for our STRONG Capitalism, we wouldn't have the money nor the market to endure spending billions of dollars on aid and solutions, nor the market to endure thousands of points drop?

 

[Yarddog]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Well, here is a small example in the way a component of "capitalist" society can find a way to help.

Elon Musk says Tesla can make ventilators for coronavirus response

Socialism itself is a bureaucracy which is part of the problem in completely socialist societies. Government officials
dont know how to run things nearly as well as businesses themselves who specialize in manufacturing and production. The infrastructure that free market capitalism has created can be a big part of the solution.

Just as in WW2 we beat the Axis powers by out producing them in planes and tanks. that was able to happen because we had auto plants and steel mills already set up.... why? because we were a capitalist society who was geared for production.

 

[Yarddog]

Capitalism holds solutions to all our problems is a given for right wingers. Everything has always been boiled down to "CAPITALISM GOOD --- SOCIALISM BAD", yet the only steps we are taking are things that the right has condemned as anti-American for years. Not a single capitalist idea in the batch . Why not? Surely some of the smart right wingers here have figured out several ways that capitalism can easily get us beyond this problem. Here's your chance. Show us how capitalism can solve this.

Had to use a funny emoji only because they dont have one for "stupid"

No problem. I've read your posts. When I see your screen name, I expect "stupid" anyway.

YOu have some good posts.

Not this one. Your being ridiculous. If it wasnt for capitalism we wouldnt have the diversity of business here in the U.S. we will bounce back... and it wont be Socialism that is going to be the answer. Relief efforts are a temporary fix, but not sustainable.

Thank god that we can save capitalist Boeing by giving them a $60 billion dollar bailout from Big Government

Well, it will be a lot easier to put thousands of Americans back to work if Boeing is not out of business. Jobs will be waiting for them, and I imagine Boeing has a lot of business contracts with vendors and suppliers, who also hire people.
It's would be an emergency action that would benefit a lot of people. Boeing has made some bad mistakes and bad business decisions recently, but now is probably not the time to pass judgement. Our country doesnt need large businesses who hire tens of thousands of people to dissapear right now.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Did y’all catch Trumps presser ? Whole lotta commie socialist talk going on. Tests for everyone ? Bailouts ? Billion dollar aid packages ?!?


When push comes to shove , socialist type programs ain’t so bad . Or should we rely on capitalism alone to save us with price gouging?

Timmeeeey!!! Did you watch the press conference? It was explicitly stated that without help of private businesses like Walgreens, Walmart, CVS, etc. the Govt would be screwed fighting this plague.

What !? Gov and private working together!! It’s the democrat way!

No, the Democrat way is for a massive centralized government made up of BS-ing politicians to make all the decisions, then hand down edicts to private enterprise, all the while leaving the business owners to bear the cost and the blame for the government policies.

 

[georgephillip]

Wrong...their misery is due to the leaders of their country...if they stopped being morons, their countries could be as wealthy as any other country....

Since the US/NATO invasion of Afghanistan in 2001 we've seen an obvious and direct correlation between war and refugees with 57% coming from three countries (Syria, Afghanistan, and South Sudan).

That is criminal enough but not for capitalists who expect to profit from the misery their states inflict on innocent human beings...too much MAGA is never enough WINNING.

 

[georgephillip]

That's much worse than when Communism helped to create a system of tycoon communism run for the benefit of a corrupt political oligarchy that has appropriated hundreds of millions of dollars of Western aid and plundered Russia’s wealth, eh comrade?

How did life expectancy under Soviet rule compare to its capitalistic competition, Kulak?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

That's much worse than when Communism helped to create a system of tycoon communism run for the benefit of a corrupt political oligarchy that has appropriated hundreds of millions of dollars of Western aid and plundered Russia’s wealth, eh comrade?

How did life expectancy under Soviet rule compare to its capitalistic competition, Kulak?

It sucked, because Commies suck.

 

[georgephillip]

Venezuela is free to trade with every other country in the world.

But Venezuelans are NOT free to get paid.

"The U.S. Treasury added sanctions to the Central Bank of Venezuela on 17 April 2019.[65][66] U.S. Treasury Secretary Mnuchin stated that, 'While this designation will inhibit most Central Bank activities undertaken by the illegitimate Maduro regime, the United States has taken steps to ensure that regular debit and credit card transactions can proceed and personal remittances and humanitarian assistance continue unabated and are able to reach those suffering under the Maduro regime’s repression.'[66]

"The new sanctions will close some loopholes that allow for continued financing of the government.

"The Central Bank was able to obtain loans without seeking approval from the National Assembly. It also sells gold to the central banks of other countries.

"And by interrupting the foreign exchange handled by the Central Bank, PDVSA purchases of production supplies are impacted."

International sanctions during the Venezuelan crisis - Wikipedia

 

[Yarddog]

That's much worse than when Communism helped to create a system of tycoon communism run for the benefit of a corrupt political oligarchy that has appropriated hundreds of millions of dollars of Western aid and plundered Russia’s wealth, eh comrade?

How did life expectancy under Soviet rule compare to its capitalistic competition, Kulak?

https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

Ask an Ukranian that question, Communist lover.