Spot the difference competition - Confederates v. Kneelers

[Correll]

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It's been accepted as such only because the people of the region largely agreed with the cause for which it stood.
That in no way negates the fact that the confederacy and it's symbols were and are based on the idea of white supremacy.
That is anathema to the founding principles of our nation. The entire cause is disrespectful to the anthem and the flag. Both were rejected by confederacy.
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No, it was accepted by the nation as a whole as a harmless symbol of regional pride.


1913

1980s

The 1948 Dixiecrat Convention. You know, what racists like you call demonstrating regional pride...

...

Actually they are not "celebrating their heritage", they are having a political rally.


It is two very different actions.


The dixicrats lasted for ONE presidential election, when the racist white southerns rebelled against the national dem party betraying them.

They were a blip. After that those regional racist dems almost completely abandoned their regional rebellion against the dems and rejoined the national dem party for decades to come.


Where they were welcomed back with open arms.


1976

Do you believe that Jimmy Carter was a White Nationalist?





Why do you support the racists and not the Civil War Vets, and Hollywood?

The conservative south was already mostly Republican by 1976. They voted Democrat for president in 1976 only because the Democrat was from the south.

So, that's all it took, to get the South to embrace a pro-civil rights liberal Democrat? For him to be a fellow Southern?


It's almost like they aren't really that offended by Civil Rights.



SO, if you guys had been smart enough to run southerns since then, you could have won ever single election. And then where would all this nonsense about a "Southern Strategy" be?

That aside, by the 1940’s, the Dixiecrats adopted the confederate flag because it represented their divisiveness and racist agenda; which was followed by the KKK using that same flag for that same reason.

No, they adopted it, because they were trying to gain support by appealing to regional pride.


They failed. And returned to the democratic party.

 

[Faun]

l

[...

It's been accepted as such only because the people of the region largely agreed with the cause for which it stood.
That in no way negates the fact that the confederacy and it's symbols were and are based on the idea of white supremacy.
That is anathema to the founding principles of our nation. The entire cause is disrespectful to the anthem and the flag. Both were rejected by confederacy.
..

No, it was accepted by the nation as a whole as a harmless symbol of regional pride.


1913

1980s

The 1948 Dixiecrat Convention. You know, what racists like you call demonstrating regional pride...

...

Actually they are not "celebrating their heritage", they are having a political rally.


It is two very different actions.


The dixicrats lasted for ONE presidential election, when the racist white southerns rebelled against the national dem party betraying them.

They were a blip. After that those regional racist dems almost completely abandoned their regional rebellion against the dems and rejoined the national dem party for decades to come.


Where they were welcomed back with open arms.


1976

Do you believe that Jimmy Carter was a White Nationalist?





Why do you support the racists and not the Civil War Vets, and Hollywood?

The conservative south was already mostly Republican by 1976. They voted Democrat for president in 1976 only because the Democrat was from the south.

So, that's all it took, to get the South to embrace a pro-civil rights liberal Democrat? For him to be a fellow Southern?


It's almost like they aren't really that offended by Civil Rights.



SO, if you guys had been smart enough to run southerns since then, you could have won ever single election. And then where would all this nonsense about a "Southern Strategy" be?

That aside, by the 1940’s, the Dixiecrats adopted the confederate flag because it represented their divisiveness and racist agenda; which was followed by the KKK using that same flag for that same reason.

No, they adopted it, because they were trying to gain support by appealing to regional pride.


They failed. And returned to the democratic party.

Yes, that’s all it took in 1976.

The conservative south has always been more racist than the north, regardless of political party. Just look at many in the north voted for civil rights for blacks. Look at how many in the south voted against it.

Then the south flipped from blue to red.

1956

1964

Conservatives are generally racist, regardless of which political party they support.

 

[Correll]

l

No, it was accepted by the nation as a whole as a harmless symbol of regional pride.


1913

1980s

The 1948 Dixiecrat Convention. You know, what racists like you call demonstrating regional pride...

...

Actually they are not "celebrating their heritage", they are having a political rally.


It is two very different actions.


The dixicrats lasted for ONE presidential election, when the racist white southerns rebelled against the national dem party betraying them.

They were a blip. After that those regional racist dems almost completely abandoned their regional rebellion against the dems and rejoined the national dem party for decades to come.


Where they were welcomed back with open arms.


1976

Do you believe that Jimmy Carter was a White Nationalist?





Why do you support the racists and not the Civil War Vets, and Hollywood?

The conservative south was already mostly Republican by 1976. They voted Democrat for president in 1976 only because the Democrat was from the south.

So, that's all it took, to get the South to embrace a pro-civil rights liberal Democrat? For him to be a fellow Southern?


It's almost like they aren't really that offended by Civil Rights.



SO, if you guys had been smart enough to run southerns since then, you could have won ever single election. And then where would all this nonsense about a "Southern Strategy" be?

That aside, by the 1940’s, the Dixiecrats adopted the confederate flag because it represented their divisiveness and racist agenda; which was followed by the KKK using that same flag for that same reason.

No, they adopted it, because they were trying to gain support by appealing to regional pride.


They failed. And returned to the democratic party.

Yes, that’s all it took in 1976.

The conservative south has always been more racist than the north, regardless of political party. Just look at many in the north voted for civil rights for blacks. Look at how many in the south voted against it.

Then the south flipped from blue to red.

1956

1964

Conservatives are generally racist, regardless of which political party they support.

The Carter 1976 victory in the South showed that the Democrats flipping their position on Civil Rights did NOT turn the South against the Democratic Party.


I see in your post that you have repeated your previous and now refuted claim that it did.


But nothing in your post actually supports that.


The Myth of the Southern Strategy is that the Republicans have been pandering, somehow, to Southern Racists since Nixon to make the south solidly republican.


Carter's 1976 win of the South, despite a strong history on Civil Rights, disproves that.


Do you have something to say about that, or are you just going to keep repeating your now refuted claim, over and over again, like a broken record?

 

[IsaacNewton]

Spot the difference.

On the one hand you have those flying the Confederate flag.

These are the sort of people who are telling the kneelers that they're disrespecting the US armed forces, they're disrespecting the flag, they're disrespecting the anthem.

On the other hand you have the kneelers.

The Confederate troops committed Treason. The US Constitution is quite clear on what Treason is, and the Confederacy committed treason and every soldier who took up arms to FIGHT THE SOLDIERS OF THE US ARMED FORCES committed treason.

Now, flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the members of the US armed forces. The Confederates killed members of the US armed forces.

Flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the flag of the United States. It says "we don't want to be a part of that flag, we don't want our star on that flag".

Kneeling in a protest does not disrespect the US flag. The US flag exists because it represents the States, the government, the Constitution. A Constitution which protects freedom to criticize the government.

The kneelers have killed zero US Armed Forces personnel.
The Confederates killed 110,000 people in battle and 25,000 to 30,000 in Confederate prisons.

How is it that the people who fly the flag of treason, the flag of killing US military personnel can turn around and tell those who kneel, that they're disrespecting the anthem and the flag?

The cacophonous answer from the confederate flag wavers...

JUST 'CUZ!!!

 

[PredFan]

Spot the difference.

On the one hand you have those flying the Confederate flag.

These are the sort of people who are telling the kneelers that they're disrespecting the US armed forces, they're disrespecting the flag, they're disrespecting the anthem.

On the other hand you have the kneelers.

The Confederate troops committed Treason. The US Constitution is quite clear on what Treason is, and the Confederacy committed treason and every soldier who took up arms to FIGHT THE SOLDIERS OF THE US ARMED FORCES committed treason.

Now, flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the members of the US armed forces. The Confederates killed members of the US armed forces.

Flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the flag of the United States. It says "we don't want to be a part of that flag, we don't want our star on that flag".

Kneeling in a protest does not disrespect the US flag. The US flag exists because it represents the States, the government, the Constitution. A Constitution which protects freedom to criticize the government.

The kneelers have killed zero US Armed Forces personnel.
The Confederates killed 110,000 people in battle and 25,000 to 30,000 in Confederate prisons.

How is it that the people who fly the flag of treason, the flag of killing US military personnel can turn around and tell those who kneel, that they're disrespecting the anthem and the flag?

Dumb shit. Nobody gives a shit for your stupid crap.

 

[Correll]

Spot the difference.

On the one hand you have those flying the Confederate flag.

These are the sort of people who are telling the kneelers that they're disrespecting the US armed forces, they're disrespecting the flag, they're disrespecting the anthem.

On the other hand you have the kneelers.

The Confederate troops committed Treason. The US Constitution is quite clear on what Treason is, and the Confederacy committed treason and every soldier who took up arms to FIGHT THE SOLDIERS OF THE US ARMED FORCES committed treason.

Now, flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the members of the US armed forces. The Confederates killed members of the US armed forces.

Flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the flag of the United States. It says "we don't want to be a part of that flag, we don't want our star on that flag".

Kneeling in a protest does not disrespect the US flag. The US flag exists because it represents the States, the government, the Constitution. A Constitution which protects freedom to criticize the government.

The kneelers have killed zero US Armed Forces personnel.
The Confederates killed 110,000 people in battle and 25,000 to 30,000 in Confederate prisons.

How is it that the people who fly the flag of treason, the flag of killing US military personnel can turn around and tell those who kneel, that they're disrespecting the anthem and the flag?

The cacophonous answer from the confederate flag wavers...

JUST 'CUZ!!!

Your ignoring the actual answers to lie, shows you are a dishonest troll.

 

[Faun]

l

The 1948 Dixiecrat Convention. You know, what racists like you call demonstrating regional pride...

...

Actually they are not "celebrating their heritage", they are having a political rally.


It is two very different actions.


The dixicrats lasted for ONE presidential election, when the racist white southerns rebelled against the national dem party betraying them.

They were a blip. After that those regional racist dems almost completely abandoned their regional rebellion against the dems and rejoined the national dem party for decades to come.


Where they were welcomed back with open arms.


1976

Do you believe that Jimmy Carter was a White Nationalist?





Why do you support the racists and not the Civil War Vets, and Hollywood?

The conservative south was already mostly Republican by 1976. They voted Democrat for president in 1976 only because the Democrat was from the south.

So, that's all it took, to get the South to embrace a pro-civil rights liberal Democrat? For him to be a fellow Southern?


It's almost like they aren't really that offended by Civil Rights.



SO, if you guys had been smart enough to run southerns since then, you could have won ever single election. And then where would all this nonsense about a "Southern Strategy" be?

That aside, by the 1940’s, the Dixiecrats adopted the confederate flag because it represented their divisiveness and racist agenda; which was followed by the KKK using that same flag for that same reason.

No, they adopted it, because they were trying to gain support by appealing to regional pride.


They failed. And returned to the democratic party.

Yes, that’s all it took in 1976.

The conservative south has always been more racist than the north, regardless of political party. Just look at many in the north voted for civil rights for blacks. Look at how many in the south voted against it.

Then the south flipped from blue to red.

1956

1964

Conservatives are generally racist, regardless of which political party they support.

The Carter 1976 victory in the South showed that the Democrats flipping their position on Civil Rights did NOT turn the South against the Democratic Party.


I see in your post that you have repeated your previous and now refuted claim that it did.


But nothing in your post actually supports that.


The Myth of the Southern Strategy is that the Republicans have been pandering, somehow, to Southern Racists since Nixon to make the south solidly republican.


Carter's 1976 win of the South, despite a strong history on Civil Rights, disproves that.


Do you have something to say about that, or are you just going to keep repeating your now refuted claim, over and over again, like a broken record?

That the south went for a southerner does not discount how the south, for the most part, voted Republican in every other election since 1964.

You’re trying to argue the exception defines the rule, and you fail.

 

[Correll]

l
Actually they are not "celebrating their heritage", they are having a political rally.


It is two very different actions.


The dixicrats lasted for ONE presidential election, when the racist white southerns rebelled against the national dem party betraying them.

They were a blip. After that those regional racist dems almost completely abandoned their regional rebellion against the dems and rejoined the national dem party for decades to come.


Where they were welcomed back with open arms.


1976

Do you believe that Jimmy Carter was a White Nationalist?





Why do you support the racists and not the Civil War Vets, and Hollywood?

The conservative south was already mostly Republican by 1976. They voted Democrat for president in 1976 only because the Democrat was from the south.

So, that's all it took, to get the South to embrace a pro-civil rights liberal Democrat? For him to be a fellow Southern?


It's almost like they aren't really that offended by Civil Rights.



SO, if you guys had been smart enough to run southerns since then, you could have won ever single election. And then where would all this nonsense about a "Southern Strategy" be?

That aside, by the 1940’s, the Dixiecrats adopted the confederate flag because it represented their divisiveness and racist agenda; which was followed by the KKK using that same flag for that same reason.

No, they adopted it, because they were trying to gain support by appealing to regional pride.


They failed. And returned to the democratic party.

Yes, that’s all it took in 1976.

The conservative south has always been more racist than the north, regardless of political party. Just look at many in the north voted for civil rights for blacks. Look at how many in the south voted against it.

Then the south flipped from blue to red.

1956

1964

Conservatives are generally racist, regardless of which political party they support.

The Carter 1976 victory in the South showed that the Democrats flipping their position on Civil Rights did NOT turn the South against the Democratic Party.


I see in your post that you have repeated your previous and now refuted claim that it did.


But nothing in your post actually supports that.


The Myth of the Southern Strategy is that the Republicans have been pandering, somehow, to Southern Racists since Nixon to make the south solidly republican.


Carter's 1976 win of the South, despite a strong history on Civil Rights, disproves that.


Do you have something to say about that, or are you just going to keep repeating your now refuted claim, over and over again, like a broken record?

That the south went for a southerner does not discount how the south, for the most part, voted Republican in every other election since 1964.

You’re trying to argue the exception defines the rule, and you fail.

That Jimmy Carter had a strong record of being strongly pro-Civil Rights,


strongly undermines that claim that the REASON for the South voting republican was because of strong opposition to Civil Rights.



IF the exception had been some Dem with a WEAK record on Civil RIghts, or even a history of opposition to them, than your point would be more valid.



Jimmy Carter was not a racist.


Yet the south loved him.



This does not fit with the Myth of the Southern Strategy as pushed by you lefties.

 

[Geaux4it]

Spot the difference.

On the one hand you have those flying the Confederate flag.

These are the sort of people who are telling the kneelers that they're disrespecting the US armed forces, they're disrespecting the flag, they're disrespecting the anthem.

On the other hand you have the kneelers.

The Confederate troops committed Treason. The US Constitution is quite clear on what Treason is, and the Confederacy committed treason and every soldier who took up arms to FIGHT THE SOLDIERS OF THE US ARMED FORCES committed treason.

Now, flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the members of the US armed forces. The Confederates killed members of the US armed forces.

Flying the Confederate flag shows no respect to the flag of the United States. It says "we don't want to be a part of that flag, we don't want our star on that flag".

Kneeling in a protest does not disrespect the US flag. The US flag exists because it represents the States, the government, the Constitution. A Constitution which protects freedom to criticize the government.

The kneelers have killed zero US Armed Forces personnel.
The Confederates killed 110,000 people in battle and 25,000 to 30,000 in Confederate prisons.

How is it that the people who fly the flag of treason, the flag of killing US military personnel can turn around and tell those who kneel, that they're disrespecting the anthem and the flag?

The south was just not going to go quietly in the night. The North brought the fight to us.

Just wait and see what happens if you loons come after our guns derp

-Geaux

 

[initforme]

How about putting the confederate flag down and putting up the American flag. The civil war is over. It has been decided. Move on now.

 

[Geaux4it]

 

[Geaux4it]

How about putting the confederate flag down and putting up the American flag. The civil war is over. It has been decided. Move on now.

Its about heritage

-Geaux

 

[Crepitus]

Get back when a confederate flag flies at a NFL game.

The NFL and the Confederate Flag Roundtable Discussion

From January 2017

"The NFL flies the Confederate flag during the Super Bowl, which comes as a shock to many. Well actress and activist, Aunjanue Eliis, isn't having it anymore and is doing something about it."

Next stupid strawman.

 

[Crepitus]

T

How about putting the confederate flag down and putting up the American flag. The civil war is over. It has been decided. Move on now.

Its about heritage

-Geaux

Here's no heratige. You lost. Get over it.

 

[initforme]

I understand heritage. I also understand slave owners were lazy gutless folk who used beatings to control workers they were way to cheap to pay.

 

[Crepitus]

W

REALLY grasping at straws attempting to deflect away from shit stains disrespecting our national flag and anthem, and it's getting more absurd by the day... this STUPID thread is proof.

How disrespecting them?

You know that's not what the kneeling thing is about right?

 

[initforme]

Kneeling isn't all that smart. There are better ways.

 

[Geaux4it]

I understand heritage. I also understand slave owners were lazy gutless folk who used beatings to control workers they were way to cheap to pay.

Did you know (3) union states allowed slavery?

-Geaux

 

[Crepitus]

What's great is later after the Civil War, those confederate soldiers were deemed by the government as all American soldiers of the U.S. and thousands were granted burial at Arlington national cemetery. The Negro Kneelers would never fight for their country.

Bullshit. They are fighting for their country.

 

[initforme]

Yep. Doesn't justify slavery though. Again the owners were lazy and immoral and nothing is going to justify whipping another human simply to make them work harder for nothing.