Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. How Democrats confirmed Kavvy.

[oldsoul]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened. Kavanaugh now appears to be on the verge of confirmation. Democrats are hugely dismayed, but Democrats are to blame.

Ford was correct to bring her information to Congress. She was correct to come forward publicly. It was correct for her to be heard. But everything Democrats did was a mistake. They were stupid mistakes, they were selfish mistakes, and they were self defeating mistakes.

Feinstein should not have kept Ford's letter in her back pocket until the last minute. Grassley has been right about one thing, that Feinstein could have shared the information even while protecting Ford's confidentiality. When Ford came forward publicly Democrats made the nomination about justice for sexual assault victims, women's rights, and #metoo. That was a fatal mistake. Yes, what happened a when they were teenagers had some value for evaluating his character. But even under the best of circumstances, it cannot be the defining fact that reveals his character today.

Democrats tried to make the confirmation about Ford, and consequently about justice. They succeeded for a moment. But that was a mistake, because this always had to return to Kavanaugh. He was the one being voted on. The consequence of this mistake was that when the focus finally did returne to Kavanaugh, with the issue of justice in the background, the question stopped being whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh. It became whether or not to convict Kavanaugh.

This has become such a contentious issue, with key individuals like Senator Flake being so tormented as they try to decide how to vote. There's been tons of uncertainty, and if Democrats hadn't botched this whole thing so badly that uncertainty would be enough. You don't vote confirm a lifetime appointment because you're deeply conflicted but 51% sure. The logical choice would be to reject a nominee that doesn't entirely wow you, and move forward with another candidate.

But Democrats eliminated that by making strategic mistakes at every step of the way. Democrats turned this into a question of whether or not to convict Kavanaugh. A vote against confirmation became equivalent to a vote to convict. By making that the question, uncertainty necessarily breaks the other direction. Nobody wants to convict when they are only 51% sure.

Once again, Democrats prove that they are the world champions at losing.

Republicans were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. He could rape a child in front of them and they’d suddenly start supporting child rape. That Democrats came so close is amazing. Even now, if Susan Collins announces at 3:00 that she’ll vote no, Democrats will have accomplished the impossible.

This is the kind of partisan mud slinging that has gotten us to this point. If you wish to lump ALL (insert group here) into one narrow line of thinking, one of two things are happening.

1. You are no different than any racist, sexist, or homophobe.
2. You are so partisain (and sure you are right) that you cannot imagine any way that a logical, thinking person could EVER disagree with you on ANYTHING.

Possibly both.

Be honest with yourself, rube

this coming from someone saying a repub could rape a child and no one would care.

honesty is not something you know much about.

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Honestly, you are too funny.

 

[danielpalos]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened.

Why weren't you testifying before the SJC then?

You and all these other morons couldn't find a point if it was nailed to your gonads.

i prefer full body massage with happy ending.

 

[oldsoul]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened.

Why weren't you testifying before the SJC then?

You and all these other morons couldn't find a point if it was nailed to your gonads.

Figures you'd make it sexual.

If nailing shit to your gonads if your idea of a sexy time, then that's your problem, not mine.

Now you bring up fecal matter. Wow, you really are making a strong case. I'll have to re-evaluate my entire life now. No, wait... Nope.

Oh, please stop, I'm getting a cramp from laughing so much.

 

[Defiant1]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened. Kavanaugh now appears to be on the verge of confirmation. Democrats are hugely dismayed, but Democrats are to blame.

Ford was correct to bring her information to Congress. She was correct to come forward publicly. It was correct for her to be heard. But everything Democrats did was a mistake. They were stupid mistakes, they were selfish mistakes, and they were self defeating mistakes.

Feinstein should not have kept Ford's letter in her back pocket until the last minute. Grassley has been right about one thing, that Feinstein could have shared the information even while protecting Ford's confidentiality. When Ford came forward publicly Democrats made the nomination about justice for sexual assault victims, women's rights, and #metoo. That was a fatal mistake. Yes, what happened a when they were teenagers had some value for evaluating his character. But even under the best of circumstances, it cannot be the defining fact that reveals his character today.

Democrats tried to make the confirmation about Ford, and consequently about justice. They succeeded for a moment. But that was a mistake, because this always had to return to Kavanaugh. He was the one being voted on. The consequence of this mistake was that when the focus finally did returne to Kavanaugh, with the issue of justice in the background, the question stopped being whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh. It became whether or not to convict Kavanaugh.

This has become such a contentious issue, with key individuals like Senator Flake being so tormented as they try to decide how to vote. There's been tons of uncertainty, and if Democrats hadn't botched this whole thing so badly that uncertainty would be enough. You don't vote confirm a lifetime appointment because you're deeply conflicted but 51% sure. The logical choice would be to reject a nominee that doesn't entirely wow you, and move forward with another candidate.

But Democrats eliminated that by making strategic mistakes at every step of the way. Democrats turned this into a question of whether or not to convict Kavanaugh. A vote against confirmation became equivalent to a vote to convict. By making that the question, uncertainty necessarily breaks the other direction. Nobody wants to convict when they are only 51% sure.

Once again, Democrats prove that they are the world champions at losing.

So let me guess.
You believe Kavanaugh, PJ Smyth, and Mark Judge are lying under penalty of felony.
Is Leland Keyser lying too?

 

[protectionist]

Republicans were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. He could rape a child in front of them and they’d suddenly start supporting child rape. That Democrats came so close is amazing. Even now, if Susan Collins announces at 3:00 that she’ll vote no, Democrats will have accomplished the impossible.

They would have "accomplished" changing US politics BY LYING.

 

[BlackFlag]

Republicans were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. He could rape a child in front of them and they’d suddenly start supporting child rape. That Democrats came so close is amazing. Even now, if Susan Collins announces at 3:00 that she’ll vote no, Democrats will have accomplished the impossible.

They would have "accomplished" changing US politics BY LYING.

1. They’re not lying

2. You voted for the most prolific liar in American political history

 

[protectionist]

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Easy to see they've got YOU programmed (big time)

 

[BlackFlag]

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Easy to see they've got YOU programmed (big time)

^

 

[Claudette]

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Easy to see they've got YOU programmed (big time)

Nah. He's an idiot who lives in his own world. He doesn't need proof of anything.

 

[BlackFlag]

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Easy to see they've got YOU programmed (big time)

Nah. He's an idiot who lives in his own world. He doesn't need proof of anything.

^ the irony

 

[Claudette]

Trump could murder someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and not lose your vote. Kavanaugh could rape a child and you’d love it because it would piss off Democrats

Easy to see they've got YOU programmed (big time)

Nah. He's an idiot who lives in his own world. He doesn't need proof of anything.

^ the irony

No irony at all.

 

[theHawk]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened. Kavanaugh now appears to be on the verge of confirmation. Democrats are hugely dismayed, but Democrats are to blame.

Ford was correct to bring her information to Congress. She was correct to come forward publicly. It was correct for her to be heard. But everything Democrats did was a mistake. They were stupid mistakes, they were selfish mistakes, and they were self defeating mistakes.

Feinstein should not have kept Ford's letter in her back pocket until the last minute. Grassley has been right about one thing, that Feinstein could have shared the information even while protecting Ford's confidentiality. When Ford came forward publicly Democrats made the nomination about justice for sexual assault victims, women's rights, and #metoo. That was a fatal mistake. Yes, what happened a when they were teenagers had some value for evaluating his character. But even under the best of circumstances, it cannot be the defining fact that reveals his character today.

Democrats tried to make the confirmation about Ford, and consequently about justice. They succeeded for a moment. But that was a mistake, because this always had to return to Kavanaugh. He was the one being voted on. The consequence of this mistake was that when the focus finally did returne to Kavanaugh, with the issue of justice in the background, the question stopped being whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh. It became whether or not to convict Kavanaugh.

This has become such a contentious issue, with key individuals like Senator Flake being so tormented as they try to decide how to vote. There's been tons of uncertainty, and if Democrats hadn't botched this whole thing so badly that uncertainty would be enough. You don't vote confirm a lifetime appointment because you're deeply conflicted but 51% sure. The logical choice would be to reject a nominee that doesn't entirely wow you, and move forward with another candidate.

But Democrats eliminated that by making strategic mistakes at every step of the way. Democrats turned this into a question of whether or not to convict Kavanaugh. A vote against confirmation became equivalent to a vote to convict. By making that the question, uncertainty necessarily breaks the other direction. Nobody wants to convict when they are only 51% sure.

Once again, Democrats prove that they are the world champions at losing.

Gawd you’re an idiot. “It happened” my ass. What she described wasn’t even sexual assault, it was drunk teenagers at a party. Ford was a delusional nutcase, you just want to believe her.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

One thing that Dimocrats may have done that they'll surely regret, is that if Kavenaugh is seated, if they were concerned before that Kavenaugh would be partisan, he will REALLY be partisan now, since he's got to hate their guts now more than ever.

 

[protectionist]

1. They’re not lying

2. You voted for the most prolific liar in American political history

HA HA. Are you wearing that same blindfold shown in your signature picture. you're not aware of hiw Fored slipped up and revealed her lies ?

Since your liberal OMISSION media is hiding it from you OK, I'll fill you in. Bur i can't believe i'm having to do this after all that has been said and done.

1. She said she couldn't fly to Washington DC because she had a fear of flying. Records show she's been flying all over the map.

2. She claims she reached into her handbag and took out a cell phone and made a call (in 1982). Cell phones weren't invented until 1984, they cost $4,000 ($9,897.78 in 2018 $$) and were bigger than a brick (she might have needed a suitcase for a "handbag")

3. If she wanted to remain anonymous, why did she contact her congressman and say all this stuff ?

4.She couldn't recall where or when this so-called "attack" occured.

5. She couldn't say how she got home. (give us a break)

6. The woman was a good actor, but a terrible liar.

Secondly, I have challenged many liberals to show ONE instance of Trump lying. To this date, none have ever succeeded in doing that. All they did was present things which BY THEIR DEFINITIONS, were lies, but actually were not.

 

[iceberg]

does anyone have any lectures of ford speaking before the hearings the other day? curious if she really sounds like a nervous 11 year old girl all the time.

 

[mudwhistle]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened. Kavanaugh now appears to be on the verge of confirmation. Democrats are hugely dismayed, but Democrats are to blame.

Ford was correct to bring her information to Congress. She was correct to come forward publicly. It was correct for her to be heard. But everything Democrats did was a mistake. They were stupid mistakes, they were selfish mistakes, and they were self defeating mistakes.

Feinstein should not have kept Ford's letter in her back pocket until the last minute. Grassley has been right about one thing, that Feinstein could have shared the information even while protecting Ford's confidentiality. When Ford came forward publicly Democrats made the nomination about justice for sexual assault victims, women's rights, and #metoo. That was a fatal mistake. Yes, what happened a when they were teenagers had some value for evaluating his character. But even under the best of circumstances, it cannot be the defining fact that reveals his character today.

Democrats tried to make the confirmation about Ford, and consequently about justice. They succeeded for a moment. But that was a mistake, because this always had to return to Kavanaugh. He was the one being voted on. The consequence of this mistake was that when the focus finally did returne to Kavanaugh, with the issue of justice in the background, the question stopped being whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh. It became whether or not to convict Kavanaugh.

This has become such a contentious issue, with key individuals like Senator Flake being so tormented as they try to decide how to vote. There's been tons of uncertainty, and if Democrats hadn't botched this whole thing so badly that uncertainty would be enough. You don't vote confirm a lifetime appointment because you're deeply conflicted but 51% sure. The logical choice would be to reject a nominee that doesn't entirely wow you, and move forward with another candidate.

But Democrats eliminated that by making strategic mistakes at every step of the way. Democrats turned this into a question of whether or not to convict Kavanaugh. A vote against confirmation became equivalent to a vote to convict. By making that the question, uncertainty necessarily breaks the other direction. Nobody wants to convict when they are only 51% sure.

Once again, Democrats prove that they are the world champions at losing.

Republicans were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. He could rape a child in front of them and they’d suddenly start supporting child rape. That Democrats came so close is amazing. Even now, if Susan Collins announces at 3:00 that she’ll vote no, Democrats will have accomplished the impossible.

Liberals already do.
Whoopi Goldberg says its not really rape rape.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

That was one stupid op.

 

[iceberg]

One thing that Dimocrats may have done that they'll surely regret, is that if Kavenaugh is seated, if they were concerned before that Kavenaugh would be partisan, he will REALLY be partisan now, since he's got to hate their guts now more than ever.

i would hope not. if we let the weaponization of our gov go into our SCOTUS, we're done as a country.

it won't be easy but kavanaugh will need to take each situation individually as it comes to him. there is no place in "revenge politics in our gov but its pretty much all our gov is anymore. i'd like to think we can work to keep that out of our courts.

 

[BlackFlag]

Kavanaugh sexually assaulted Ford when they were teenagers. It happened. It was a long time ago, but it happened. Kavanaugh now appears to be on the verge of confirmation. Democrats are hugely dismayed, but Democrats are to blame.

Ford was correct to bring her information to Congress. She was correct to come forward publicly. It was correct for her to be heard. But everything Democrats did was a mistake. They were stupid mistakes, they were selfish mistakes, and they were self defeating mistakes.

Feinstein should not have kept Ford's letter in her back pocket until the last minute. Grassley has been right about one thing, that Feinstein could have shared the information even while protecting Ford's confidentiality. When Ford came forward publicly Democrats made the nomination about justice for sexual assault victims, women's rights, and #metoo. That was a fatal mistake. Yes, what happened a when they were teenagers had some value for evaluating his character. But even under the best of circumstances, it cannot be the defining fact that reveals his character today.

Democrats tried to make the confirmation about Ford, and consequently about justice. They succeeded for a moment. But that was a mistake, because this always had to return to Kavanaugh. He was the one being voted on. The consequence of this mistake was that when the focus finally did returne to Kavanaugh, with the issue of justice in the background, the question stopped being whether or not to confirm Kavanaugh. It became whether or not to convict Kavanaugh.

This has become such a contentious issue, with key individuals like Senator Flake being so tormented as they try to decide how to vote. There's been tons of uncertainty, and if Democrats hadn't botched this whole thing so badly that uncertainty would be enough. You don't vote confirm a lifetime appointment because you're deeply conflicted but 51% sure. The logical choice would be to reject a nominee that doesn't entirely wow you, and move forward with another candidate.

But Democrats eliminated that by making strategic mistakes at every step of the way. Democrats turned this into a question of whether or not to convict Kavanaugh. A vote against confirmation became equivalent to a vote to convict. By making that the question, uncertainty necessarily breaks the other direction. Nobody wants to convict when they are only 51% sure.

Once again, Democrats prove that they are the world champions at losing.

Republicans were going to confirm Kavanaugh no matter what. He could rape a child in front of them and they’d suddenly start supporting child rape. That Democrats came so close is amazing. Even now, if Susan Collins announces at 3:00 that she’ll vote no, Democrats will have accomplished the impossible.

Liberals already do.
Whoopi Goldberg says its not really rape rape.

Wow who knew you were on Whoopi’s side, rape lover

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Democrats would've done a lot better if they concentrated on Kavenaugh being an emotional partisan hack, instead of a 40 year old unprovable allegation.