Stick a Fork in Obama

[ScreamingEagle]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

It is altogether possible there will be more people uninsured in 2014 than there were uninsured in 2009 when the ACA passed on a purely partisan vote, promising universal coverage.

With every cancellation letter received, an angry American will remember Obama telling the nation repeatedly: "f you like your insurance plan, you will keep it."

Republicans, having made a futile stand in attempting to defund ObamaCare, have immunity. Barack owns this baby. They can spend most of the next year in the run-up to the midterm elections picking apart ObamaCare with impunity -- control of the Senate is within their grasp.

The shutdown of our government, while seemingly detrimental to Republicans in the short run, will be a blessing going forward. The MSM did conservatives a favor by making sure every American knew that the Republicans shut down the government in an attempt to defund ObamaCare. As the ACA touches the lives of every American and the anger builds, they will remember who tried to stop it.

The nail in the coffin of progressivism is ObamaCare. After all, it is a law that penalizes almost everyone, while simultaneously ruining the nation's healthcare system. So staggering will its failure be, and its failure is inevitable, Hillary Clinton may be forced to run in 2016 as a small-government conservative.



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[g5000]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

Avik Roy is as wrong as wrong can be.

 

[Ava]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

It is altogether possible there will be more people uninsured in 2014 than there were uninsured in 2009 when the ACA passed on a purely partisan vote, promising universal coverage.

With every cancellation letter received, an angry American will remember Obama telling the nation repeatedly: "f you like your insurance plan, you will keep it."

Republicans, having made a futile stand in attempting to defund ObamaCare, have immunity. Barack owns this baby. They can spend most of the next year in the run-up to the midterm elections picking apart ObamaCare with impunity -- control of the Senate is within their grasp.

The shutdown of our government, while seemingly detrimental to Republicans in the short run, will be a blessing going forward. The MSM did conservatives a favor by making sure every American knew that the Republicans shut down the government in an attempt to defund ObamaCare. As the ACA touches the lives of every American and the anger builds, they will remember who tried to stop it.

The nail in the coffin of progressivism is ObamaCare. After all, it is a law that penalizes almost everyone, while simultaneously ruining the nation's healthcare system. So staggering will its failure be, and its failure is inevitable, Hillary Clinton may be forced to run in 2016 as a small-government conservative.



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A good article. Too bad though, as the majority of liberals, will still support the prez because after all, they are living off not only the backs of taxpayers, but the policies their Santa Claus is making.

“ A false enchantment can all too easily last a lifetime. ”

— W.H. Auden

 

[rightwinger]

The web site will be fixed
Many, many Americans will find health insurance through Obamacare

Republicans will fume

 

[Sallow]

Come January 2015 Democrats will control all three houses of government.

Then Hillary can kick it into high gear come 2016.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

Avik Roy is as wrong as wrong can be.

really.....how so...?

after their 'exemption' period companies are going to have to conform to Obamacare just like the individual market....

this means that current plans will have to be cancelled......new ones will have to be created....and the new ones will cost more and most likely become more restrictive concerning choice of hospitals and doctors...

about 66% of smaller companies and 45% of larger companies will be affected...

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The web site will be fixed
Many, many Americans will find health insurance through Obamacare

Republicans will fume

the website is by comparison small potatoes......this trainwreck called Obamacare is just getting started.....

 

[rightwinger]

The web site will be fixed
Many, many Americans will find health insurance through Obamacare

Republicans will fume

the website is by comparison small potatoes......this trainwreck is just getting started.....

The Republican victory lap on the demise of Obamacare is premature

The website will be fixed
People will sign up
After an initial phase of confusion and scrambling for a policy, people will be insured
Republicans will fight to take that insurance away

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The web site will be fixed
Many, many Americans will find health insurance through Obamacare

Republicans will fume

the website is by comparison small potatoes......this trainwreck is just getting started.....

The Republican victory lap on the demise of Obamacare is premature

The website will be fixed
People will sign up
After an initial phase of confusion and scrambling for a policy, people will be insured
Republicans will fight to take that insurance away

as long as the Rs don't goof up they are golden....because of their Cruz-led opposition to Obamacare they are totally immune to criticism about Obamacare.....

like i said the website is just the beginning.....wait until 93 million MORE lose their current plans....

 

[mamooth]

Yeah, Obama is doomed and Romney is going to romp!

Oh wait ... you mean it's not 2012? It sounded so much alike, it's hard to tell the difference.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Come January 2015 Democrats will control all three houses of government.

Then Hillary can kick it into high gear come 2016.

once Obama is done.....Hillary is too.....or is she going to replace Obamacare with Hillarycare......?

 

[driveby]

If you like your current plan, you can keep it.......

 

[Jackson]

All of this speculation on both sides is useless. Let's just wait and see what happens. Whether Obamacare will become the panacea that the left had hoped and the answer for the nation's medical questions are answered, or the nation is left with more problems than it had before Obamacare came about will be seen soon enough.

The cheerleading on either side won't change a thing.

 

[bripat9643]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

Avik Roy is as wrong as wrong can be.

He could be, but Democrats are obviously terrified.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

If you like your current plan, you can keep it*.......

*as long as it conforms to what we deem suitable for you...

 

[rightwinger]

the website is by comparison small potatoes......this trainwreck is just getting started.....

The Republican victory lap on the demise of Obamacare is premature

The website will be fixed
People will sign up
After an initial phase of confusion and scrambling for a policy, people will be insured
Republicans will fight to take that insurance away

as long as the Rs don't goof up they are golden....because of their Cruz-led opposition to Obamacare they are totally immune to criticism about Obamacare.....

like i said the website is just the beginning.....wait until 93 million MORE lose their current plans....

Yea.....we got that
Republicans hate Obamacare

The 93 million number is another falsehood from the right. Just because you COULD lose coverage, doesn't mean you WILL

Many people will be switching policies. Most will be happy, some won't
Republicans will trot out every person who isn't happy

In the end, many more people will receive better quality coverage and Republicans will be on the outside looking in

 

[g5000]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

Avik Roy is as wrong as wrong can be.

really.....how so...?

after their 'exemption' period companies are going to have to conform to Obamacare just like the individual market....

this means that current plans will have to be cancelled......new ones will have to be created....and the new ones will cost more and most likely become more restrictive concerning choice of hospitals and doctors...

about 66% of smaller companies and 45% of larger companies will be affected...

Thank you for exposing both your gullibility and ignorance so openly.

The ACA grandfathered companies that were providing health insurance to their employees before the ACA was enacted.

If those companies change their insurance policies to a point they no longer resemble the policies which were grandfathered, then they lose their grandfather status.

Companies change their plans all the time. During the economic crash, some increased deductibles or reduced benefits.

A company changing its policy results in losing its grandfather status. How the ever loving fuck the dipshit you parroted translated that to mean insurance cancellation is beyond me.

Once a plan loses it grandfather status, it must meet the minimum services and affordability requirements of the ACA. If they don't meet those standards, they will have to IMPROVE THE SERVICES THEY OFFER or pay a fine.

Got that? There is nothing about cancelling insurance in there. Nothing. Zip.

The result of all those companies losing their grandfather status means the companies where millions of employees work will have to provide BETTER INSURANCE. Not cancellations, you fearmongering gullible fool.


My company lost its grandfather exemption earlier this year. Guess what? No one lost their company insurance. Our company exceeds the requirements of the ACA, even though we lost our grandfather status. So no fines for us.

Christ, you guys don't even do the simplest of fact checks.


Companies have received an extension of the period in which they will need to improve the health plans they offer their employees.

Got that? The employer mandate was delayed so that employers would be given more time to improve their insurance before they get fined.


The Obama Administration, in 2010, made a guesstimate of how many companies would lose their grandfather status between 2011 and 2013. The 66 percent figure is the HIGH end guess. Obama's people based this guess on the stats from 2008-2009, when the economy was in a big negative fat tail. They extrapoloted out to the end of 2013.

Well, here we are at the end of 2013. 93 million people have not lost their insurance. Instead, corporations are working hard to meet the minimum service and affordability requirements of the ACA, and they have been given an extra grace period to do so.

Avik Roy is an idiot.

Congratulations. You just parroted a lie bigger than any lie told by Obama. Well done!

 

[ScreamingEagle]

All of this speculation on both sides is useless. Let's just wait and see what happens. Whether Obamacare will become the panacea that the left had hoped and the answer for the nation's medical questions are answered, or the nation is left with more problems than it had before Obamacare came about will be seen soon enough.

The cheerleading on either side won't change a thing.

"panacea"....hahaha....don't you realize that everything Obama has done is like a wrecking ball that is destroying America.....?

this "panacea" is going to destroy our excellent (albeit some probs) healthcare system....

doctors are dropping out.....how can an overloaded system with fewer doctors work...?

 

[g5000]

The Obama presidency is dead -- killed by Obama himself in a fit of vanity and hubris. With it, goes the entire progressive movement. It won't be long before people begin to understand what ObamaCare will cost them and how it will affect their healthcare. Avik Roy in Forbes Magazine estimates 93 million people will lose their current coverage.

Avik Roy is as wrong as wrong can be.

He could be, but Democrats are obviously terrified.

Democrats are not terrified of people who tell bigger lies than Obama. They are grateful when gullible rubes parot lies bigger than Obama's lies. These rubes who parrot these giant lies allow Obama to escape when he has been nailed to the wall.

The rubes just pulled the fork out of Obama.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The web site will be fixed
Many, many Americans will find health insurance through Obamacare

Republicans will fume

You've been saying that for years