Stop calling Dreamers "illegal".

[hazlnut]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   
   

 

[TNHarley]

Fuck all illegals.

 

[Barton]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

There is no such thing as a de facto citizen, you either are or you are not. Illegal aliens are not.

Dumb fuck progressives

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Dreamers are illegals.

Now what's your plan?

 

[harmonica]

Since it was enacted under President Barack Obama, about 800,000 immigrants who were children when they arrived in the U.S. illegally

DACA is the acronym for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, a program created in 2012 by the Obama administration allowing young people brought to this country illegally

5 Questions About DACA Answered
from NPR--- a big leftist/black/Dem/anti-American/etc program

 

[Auld Phart]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

Ok...

do they fall under the Homestead Act, or are they just considered squatters?

 

[SavannahMann]

de jure

[di joo r-ee, dey joo r-ey; Latin de yoo-re]

• Examples
• Word Origin

adverb, adjective
1.
by right; according to law (distinguished from de facto ).


Or perhaps.

In law and government, de jure (/deɪ ˈdʒʊərɪ/ or /dɪ ˈdʒʊərɪ/; Latin: de iure, lit. 'in law' Latin pronunciation: [deː juːre]) describes practices that are legally recognised, whether or not the practices exist in reality.[1] In contrast, de facto ("in fact" or "in practice") describes situations that exist in reality, even if not legally recognised.[2] The terms are often used to contrast different scenarios: for a colloquial example, "I know that, de jure, this is supposed to be a parking lot, but now that the flood has left four feet of water here, it’s a de facto swimming pool".[3]

De jure - Wikipedia

By law they are illegal. Which is why we have to pass a law to make them legal. Any more silly arguments?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

They are here illegally. There was deferred action on sending them back. Look up the meaning of the word deferred.

 

[DJT for Life]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

Oh yeah...

They are not citizens and they came here illegally.

They are illegal aliens. They fit that definition to a Tee

 

[harmonica]

another thread with no evidence to support its argument
the OP is Dreaming

 

[Tank]

Why can't Mexicans educate themselves?

 

[easyt65]

There are no such thing as 'Dreamers'.

'DREAMERS' refer to beneficiaries of an Un-Constitution, illegal Executive Order that attempted to institute liberal agenda / ideology into LAW, even though before doing so Barry admitted publicly he did not have the authority to do so.

These illegals were brought illegally into this country, making them 'ILLEGAL' as well.

 

[Votto]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

Illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal, illegal........I'm sorry, what again?

 

[easyt65]

Why can't Mexicans educate themselves?

Same reason Liberals can't / won't. An education would only prove them wrong. They prefer ignorance and emotion.

 

[MisterBeale]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

You are de facto out of your blinking mind.

 

[Slade3200]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

Im all for helping the dreamers and getting them legal status but you gotta be careful with posting an OP like this, you are going to get slaughtered by the facts. Technically the Dreamers are not here legally and they do not have legal status. DACA, was a directive by the executive to defer action on deportations for people who qualify for this status. That means ICE will prioritize deportations towards different individuals. DACA also gave work permits to individuals however it never officially changed their legal status. An act of congress is the only way to do that. We need something like the dream act to be passed to change their status from illegal to legal.

 

[easyt65]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

You are de facto out of your blinking mind.

Can someone cite what chapter / page / article in the Constitution it defines / discusses 'de facto' citizens?

 

[Lastamender]

If Democrats think people are going to believe any spin about legality they come up with they should remember who got elected last November.

 

[Barton]

Stop calling murderers killers, that is mean instead let's start calling them undocumented life takers.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Are y'all familiar with the term...

de fac·to
ˌdā ˈfaktō/
adverb

1. in fact, or in effect, whether by right or not.
   
   DACA kids are de facto citizens of the U.S.
   
   --they know no other country, pay taxes, serve in the OUR military and are better American citizens than the xenophobes and bigots who want them deported...
   
   The typical Trump xenophobe is a bitter pathetic failure in life who wants to blame their own lack of accomplishments on someone else. Most are not smart enough, educated enough, or hard working enough to accomplish what DACA kids have.
   
   DACA kids represent the best of us. We should focus on getting rid of the ugly vile racists who drag our country down under the guise of making it great.
   
   
   FACTS:
   
   Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA)
   
   Eligibility
   To be eligible, illegal immigrants must have entered the United States before their 16th birthday and prior to June 2007, be currently in school, a high school graduate or be honorably discharged from the military, be under the age of 31 as of June 15, 2012, and not have been convicted of a felony, significant misdemeanor or three other misdemeanors, or otherwise pose a threat to national security. The program does not provide lawful status or a path to citizenship,[38] nor does it provide eligibility for federal welfare or student aid.[3]
   
   In August 2012, the Migration Policy Institute estimated that as many as 1.76 million people could be eligible for DACA. Of those, 28% were under 15 and would have to wait until reaching that age to apply. In addition, roughly 20% did not meet any of the education criteria, but could become eligible by enrolling in a program before submitting their application. 74% of the eligible population was born in Mexico or Central America. Smaller proportions came from Caribbean and South America (11%), Asia (9%), and the rest of the world (6%).[39][38]
   
   To qualify for DACA, applicants must meet the following major requirements, although meeting them does not guarantee approval:
   
   
   • Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
   • Have lived continuously in the United States since June 15, 2007
   • Were under age 31 on June 15, 2012 (born on June 16, 1981 or after)
   • Were physically present in the United States on June 15, 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
   • Had no lawful status on June 15, 2012
   • Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
   • Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
   
   
   

They are illegals you fucking idiot