Stopping Mueller to Protect us All

[iceberg]

Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

what i don't understand from many is - do you want mueller to succeed because you hate trump and want him gone and this is the way - or do you actually think trump colluded w/russia and warranted an investigation?

we can't go so far in our own "hate" that would then allow us to skew right or wrong in order to satisfy said hate. we're there. most all of us have some form of emotional stake in this game by now. but if you're ok with one part of our gov just going after the other until something is found - just understand this doesn't stop with trump.

it simply legitimizes the method OF WHICH the other side will push even further.

we really need to stop destroying ourselves to satisfy our own emotional insecurities.

 

[August West]

Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

what i don't understand from many is - do you want mueller to succeed because you hate trump and want him gone and this is the way - or do you actually think trump colluded w/russia and warranted an investigation?

we can't go so far in our own "hate" that would then allow us to skew right or wrong in order to satisfy said hate. we're there. most all of us have some form of emotional stake in this game by now. but if you're ok with one part of our gov just going after the other until something is found - just understand this doesn't stop with trump.

it simply legitimizes the method OF WHICH the other side will push even further.

we really need to stop destroying ourselves to satisfy our own emotional insecurities.

Did you feel the same way about the 8 Benghazi investigations that produced no indictments or guilty pleas? Mueller is finding witches by the dozens. See the difference?

 

[iceberg]

Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

what i don't understand from many is - do you want mueller to succeed because you hate trump and want him gone and this is the way - or do you actually think trump colluded w/russia and warranted an investigation?

we can't go so far in our own "hate" that would then allow us to skew right or wrong in order to satisfy said hate. we're there. most all of us have some form of emotional stake in this game by now. but if you're ok with one part of our gov just going after the other until something is found - just understand this doesn't stop with trump.

it simply legitimizes the method OF WHICH the other side will push even further.

we really need to stop destroying ourselves to satisfy our own emotional insecurities.

Did you feel the same way about the 8 Benghazi investigations that produced no indictments or guilty pleas? Mueller is finding witches by the dozens. See the difference?

yep. if you didn't find anything first run, or the 2nd, move on. i think hillary is guilty of a lot of things but benghazi was just her being stupid for the most part. her "crimes" are usually well thought out and lost on her own server. how convenient. now all politicians should just run their own server and have hard drive failures when investigated. we need to end that even being an option. period.

as for finding witches by the dozen - we're also finding the FBI would setup people to say something so they could justify spying on them with bogus paperwork.

you ok with our government doing this? cause if you are for obama doing it don't think he will be the only one to use such a tactic.

if you're going to investigate - do it for a reason. having an "open ended, just tell me what you find but find something" agenda, that's is asinine and should not be allowed by anyone at all.

ANYONE at all.

 

[candycorn]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

what i don't understand from many is - do you want mueller to succeed because you hate trump and want him gone and this is the way - or do you actually think trump colluded w/russia and warranted an investigation?

we can't go so far in our own "hate" that would then allow us to skew right or wrong in order to satisfy said hate. we're there. most all of us have some form of emotional stake in this game by now. but if you're ok with one part of our gov just going after the other until something is found - just understand this doesn't stop with trump.

it simply legitimizes the method OF WHICH the other side will push even further.

we really need to stop destroying ourselves to satisfy our own emotional insecurities.

Did you feel the same way about the 8 Benghazi investigations that produced no indictments or guilty pleas? Mueller is finding witches by the dozens. See the difference?

/----/ Our Ambassador and staff died in Benghazi. It actually happened. No one denies it. We have empirical facts that support the claim that it happened. No one launched an investigation in hopes of discovering a crime. Muller has zero evidence on collusion and the investigation was launched with no proof that any crime was committed.

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

 

[Cellblock2429]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

/----/ Libtards would rather focus on hypotheticals and strawman arguments.

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

also -

now that we know who the DOJ's informant it, we KNOW the FBI sent him to popawhateverhisnameis and fed him the very info he fed back to them JUST SO they could get a warrant against him/trumps side and openly spy.

if you're ok with this - again - just remember it WILL come back because the practice is now being defended for 1 side. in my mind, this is a no fly zone and i don't give a rats ass why or to which side is trying to do this.

we need to all be held accountable to the same crimes and subject to the same methods of investigations. allowing more because of your "feelz" is emo-based politics and we're seeing the results of that.

emoneedstogo.

 

[Votto]

Stopping Robert Mueller to protect us all

what i don't understand from many is - do you want mueller to succeed because you hate trump and want him gone and this is the way - or do you actually think trump colluded w/russia and warranted an investigation?

we can't go so far in our own "hate" that would then allow us to skew right or wrong in order to satisfy said hate. we're there. most all of us have some form of emotional stake in this game by now. but if you're ok with one part of our gov just going after the other until something is found - just understand this doesn't stop with trump.

it simply legitimizes the method OF WHICH the other side will push even further.

we really need to stop destroying ourselves to satisfy our own emotional insecurities.

Did you feel the same way about the 8 Benghazi investigations that produced no indictments or guilty pleas? Mueller is finding witches by the dozens. See the difference?

/----/ Our Ambassador and staff died in Benghazi. It actually happened. No one denies it. We have empirical facts that support the claim that it happened. No one launched an investigation in hopes of discovering a crime. Muller has zero evidence on collusion and the investigation was launched with no proof that any crime was committed.
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You are a racist for merely suggesting corruption that needed to be investigated under a black president.

How dare you?

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

/----/ Libtards would rather focus on hypotheticals and strawman arguments.

not all. again a stereotype that prevents actual depth of discussions.

place someone in a group you hate, hate the person w/o ever knowing them.

 

[Cellblock2429]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

also -

now that we know who the DOJ's informant it, we KNOW the FBI sent him to popawhateverhisnameis and fed him the very info he fed back to them JUST SO they could get a warrant against him/trumps side and openly spy.

if you're ok with this - again - just remember it WILL come back because the practice is now being defended for 1 side. in my mind, this is a no fly zone and i don't give a rats ass why or to which side is trying to do this.

we need to all be held accountable to the same crimes and subject to the same methods of investigations. allowing more because of your "feelz" is emo-based politics and we're seeing the results of that.

emoneedstogo.

/-----/ "popawhateverhisnameis" ROTFLMAO

Libtards prefer to limit the discussion to "How many angels can dance on the head of a walrus and would it affect Climate Change?"

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

also -

now that we know who the DOJ's informant it, we KNOW the FBI sent him to popawhateverhisnameis and fed him the very info he fed back to them JUST SO they could get a warrant against him/trumps side and openly spy.

if you're ok with this - again - just remember it WILL come back because the practice is now being defended for 1 side. in my mind, this is a no fly zone and i don't give a rats ass why or to which side is trying to do this.

we need to all be held accountable to the same crimes and subject to the same methods of investigations. allowing more because of your "feelz" is emo-based politics and we're seeing the results of that.

emoneedstogo.

/-----/ "popawhateverhisnameis" ROTFLMAO

Libtards prefer to limit the discussion to "How many angels can dance on the head of a walrus and would it affect Climate Change?"

i've literally lost track of who's who in all this. w/o a program you won't know who the sub-players are and it gets worse than the game of thrones in trying to keep up with who's killing who and why anymore.

but the fbi / doj set him up - flat out. it simply can't be denied anymore so they move to justify in "well it's investigation, not spying".

bullshit. and the bullshit on both sides needs to be called out and hard lines drawn.

 

[candycorn]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

When the Intel agencies say the Russians are trying to influence an election….
When the people meeting with the Russians are in the election….
When the people and their confederates are not upfront about it…

Yes, I think there is proper ground for an investigation. As it turns out, with the pleas and the indictments…it seems to be paying dividends.

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

Great…launch an investigation if there is something to uncover; I’m sure it will be uncovered.

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

When the Intel agencies say the Russians are trying to influence an election….
When the people meeting with the Russians are in the election….
When the people and their confederates are not upfront about it…

Yes, I think there is proper ground for an investigation. As it turns out, with the pleas and the indictments…it seems to be paying dividends.

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

Great…launch an investigation if there is something to uncover; I’m sure it will be uncovered.

intel agencies say russians are interfering -

did they do this before or after we interfered with israel's elections?
did they care about said "interference" in our own elections until after they lost?
can you tell me how? so far i just get facebook ads and trolling. nothing specific to supporting trump at all costs.

so - before we move on with the rest, let's address *HOW* russia interfered and *HOW* trump knew and helped.

first - how. what did they do and where can i find this evidence online to see it myself for what they did here?

you can try to build a case for why we need to investigate russia but in the end the only valid moved are the ones you'd be ok with IF TRUMP DID THEM NOW.

if trump did any of this and you said FOUL - well guess what, it's a foul to do it TO him also.

careful how you set the stage as you're not writing the entire script here.

 

[candycorn]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

also -

now that we know who the DOJ's informant it, we KNOW the FBI sent him to popawhateverhisnameis and fed him the very info he fed back to them JUST SO they could get a warrant against him/trumps side and openly spy.

if you're ok with this - again - just remember it WILL come back because the practice is now being defended for 1 side. in my mind, this is a no fly zone and i don't give a rats ass why or to which side is trying to do this.

we need to all be held accountable to the same crimes and subject to the same methods of investigations. allowing more because of your "feelz" is emo-based politics and we're seeing the results of that.

emoneedstogo.

Okay…Sounds pretty far fetched to me.

 

[candycorn]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

When the Intel agencies say the Russians are trying to influence an election….
When the people meeting with the Russians are in the election….
When the people and their confederates are not upfront about it…

Yes, I think there is proper ground for an investigation. As it turns out, with the pleas and the indictments…it seems to be paying dividends.

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

Great…launch an investigation if there is something to uncover; I’m sure it will be uncovered.

intel agencies say russians are interfering -

did they do this before or after we interfered with israel's elections?
did they care about said "interference" in our own elections until after they lost?
can you tell me how? so far i just get facebook ads and trolling. nothing specific to supporting trump at all costs.

so - before we move on with the rest, let's address *HOW* russia interfered and *HOW* trump knew and helped.

first - how. what did they do and where can i find this evidence online to see it myself for what they did here?

Now you’re getting into the “what-about-isms”….

 

[Geaux4it]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

And Obama did jack chit. We have evidence he interfered in the election in Israel. Are you equally as outraged as a result?

-Geaux

 

[Camp]

This looks like it is going to be a generic Clinton/Obama bashing/trumpbot whining thread by a couple or few obsessed haters/whiner snowflakes. Will if last all day? Is this going to be the prime hater/whiner thread for now?

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

also -

now that we know who the DOJ's informant it, we KNOW the FBI sent him to popawhateverhisnameis and fed him the very info he fed back to them JUST SO they could get a warrant against him/trumps side and openly spy.

if you're ok with this - again - just remember it WILL come back because the practice is now being defended for 1 side. in my mind, this is a no fly zone and i don't give a rats ass why or to which side is trying to do this.

we need to all be held accountable to the same crimes and subject to the same methods of investigations. allowing more because of your "feelz" is emo-based politics and we're seeing the results of that.

emoneedstogo.

Okay…Sounds pretty far fetched to me.

but if it happened how come it doesn't warrant an investigation? fucksticks man, trump meets with a russian in his tower and we must investigate for 2+ years and cry foul.

the FBI sets up a trump connection in order to setup a warrant to allow open ended spying and NOW suddenly we're far fetched?

how - convenient.

i'll hit you with this:
Reports: FBI's informant talked to multiple Trump campaign aides - CNNPolitics

the FBI flat out planted an informant / spy into trumps campaign. CNN of all places tells you it happened.

so - if you're ok with this and want to do the whole "far fetched" i'm sorry - you don't get to run away from stupid when true when most of your argument doesn't even have the legs this one has, much less proof, and still try to hold said views credible.

you're pinning your views on nothing more than your opinion and the facts, well they come and go as they suit your views.

obama's camp did this.

if you're ok with it - great. you set a new low in what can be done while in power and do not bitch gripe or moan if trump were to use the same tactics your apathy is now blessing.

 

[iceberg]

We had numerous Intel agencies state that Russia tried to influence our elections.

We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower

We know that Roger Stone (Trump advisor) applauded the hacker getting his twitter handle back and telling us that Podesta would be hacked before the hacked documents were released

We know that The AG met with the Russian Ambassador, lied about it during his confirmation hearings, and had to amend his testimony which is unusual (if not unprecedented)

We know that Michael Flynn (Trump National Security Advisor) lied about the nature of his meetings with the Russians.

It goes on and on….Now the President’s personal attorney is tied to Russia….

I would hope the DOJ would investigate anyone who had so many high level meetings with the Russians during the time the Intel services were telling us Russia was trying to influence our elections.

so far your biggest complaint is that trump knows russians. had some meetings with them.

your quote:
"We know that the highest levels of the Trump campaign met with Russians at Trump Tower"

and? they're not allowed to meet and any meeting at all with a foreigner warrants investigations?

When the Intel agencies say the Russians are trying to influence an election….
When the people meeting with the Russians are in the election….
When the people and their confederates are not upfront about it…

Yes, I think there is proper ground for an investigation. As it turns out, with the pleas and the indictments…it seems to be paying dividends.

great. now how many times did hillary and the left meet with russians? hell, any foreign entity?

how come when clinton/lynch met on the tarmac NO ONE on the left demanded an investigation? if you can't be outraged at that when we KNOW it was improper and we KNOW there's a huge potential for abuse in there, how can you get upset at trump meeting with a russian lawyer when obama's justice department let her in the country when they were not supposed to?

if you want to be that granular, great. i'm in lets go but you can't forgive/dismiss what one side does cause you hate the other.

again - that's how we got into this pile of shit we are in today.

Great…launch an investigation if there is something to uncover; I’m sure it will be uncovered.

intel agencies say russians are interfering -

did they do this before or after we interfered with israel's elections?
did they care about said "interference" in our own elections until after they lost?
can you tell me how? so far i just get facebook ads and trolling. nothing specific to supporting trump at all costs.

so - before we move on with the rest, let's address *HOW* russia interfered and *HOW* trump knew and helped.

first - how. what did they do and where can i find this evidence online to see it myself for what they did here?

Now you’re getting into the “what-about-isms”….

because that's how you build actions of the future. the "what about me" isms is a product of denial because you're looking for a "statute of limitations" to where past actions can be put away and never brought back out to play. that's 100% opposite of what i'm saying cause it won't happen that way.

you can't allow someone to break the law for 8 years and THEN suddenly give a credible fuck about it when you feel it should come into play on someone you don't care for. that's hypocrisy at it's finest. period. you can't then mock people who use the behaviors you let go by as a guide for justifying their own same behaviors because as i've said all along - when you allow it - the other side will in fact use it and not in the way you approve of.

you let hillary/obama get away with illegal activities cause you agree with their stances, then you allow the actions - period. the "other side" can and will use them and THEN suddenly you'll care but it will be too late.

your apathy to the crimes of your own side speak volumes in silence when pointed at the other side for doing the same thing.

don't justify bullshit if you don't want bullshit used against you.