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Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
You are asserting that singing the anthem is jingoism, which means extreme patriotism. That is your whole case and point. It is a subjective opinion on your part, nothing else. Most people would not consider singing the National Anthem as some sort of extreme patriotism.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
Well that sure quieted the room, didnit?
It's a serious question. Let's phrase it another way -- can anyone justify jingoism for its own sake?
Is there something positive to be gained in ignoring public regulations for the noble advancement of mob mentality?
Does chanting "USA! USA!" serve any purpose at all? That is, any rational purpose beyond a masturbatory in-you-face taunt?
Sure it does. If they would have issued a citation it would have been thrown out because a verbal permit was given.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
Well that sure quieted the room, didnit?
It's a serious question. Let's phrase it another way -- can anyone justify jingoism for its own sake?
Is there something positive to be gained in ignoring public regulations for the noble advancement of mob mentality?
Does chanting "USA! USA!" serve any purpose at all? That is, any rational purpose beyond a masturbatory in-you-face taunt?
Idiot
Free speech doesn't require a permit. Only ticky-tack idiots would construe this as a performance. Any walking down the street whistling or even sauntering would then have to be considered a performance.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
Sure it does. If they would have issued a citation it would have been thrown out because a verbal permit was given.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
Free speech doesn't require a permit. Only ticky-tack idiots would construe this as a performance. Any walking down the street whistling or even sauntering would then have to be considered a performance.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
Content does not matter. They were denied speech by a government agent, exactly what the 1rst Amendment addresses. They had permission from a government agent to promote their free speech. Their speech was then denied by a second agent. The second agent had an issue with the first one and it should not have impacted the constitutional rights of the choir.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
Is it now.
And how is it a denial of "speech"? What "speech"?
You have evidence that they were shut down for the content of their singing, do ya?
It's a structured homage. No audience was required or expected. Therefore, not a performance. Just a ticky-tack opportunity for anti-Americans like you.Free speech doesn't require a permit. Only ticky-tack idiots would construe this as a performance. Any walking down the street whistling or even sauntering would then have to be considered a performance.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
"Sauntering". I like it. Points for working in the word "sauntering". And even more points for working in the Malvina Reynolds reference.
But this is a choir, being conducted, in a regimented structure. That's a "performance".
Now if these authorities declared "you can't perform that particular song", you'd have a point.
Content does not matter. They were denied speech by a government agent, exactly what the 1rst Amendment addresses. They had permission from a government agent to promote their free speech. Their speech was then denied by a second agent. The second agent had an issue with the first one and it should not have impacted the constitutional rights of the choir.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
Is it now.
And how is it a denial of "speech"? What "speech"?
You have evidence that they were shut down for the content of their singing, do ya?
It's a structured homage. No audience was required or expected. Therefore, not a performance. Just a ticky-tack opportunity for anti-Americans like you.Free speech doesn't require a permit. Only ticky-tack idiots would construe this as a performance. Any walking down the street whistling or even sauntering would then have to be considered a performance.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.Because it's a denial of free speech.
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
"Sauntering". I like it. Points for working in the word "sauntering". And even more points for working in the Malvina Reynolds reference.
But this is a choir, being conducted, in a regimented structure. That's a "performance".
Now if these authorities declared "you can't perform that particular song", you'd have a point.
They certainly were shut down due to content. The denied content was the ostensible coordination of melody, meter and lyrics. What if instead they all applauded? Or they all prayed? There needs to be an audience to constitute a performance.Content does not matter. They were denied speech by a government agent, exactly what the 1rst Amendment addresses. They had permission from a government agent to promote their free speech. Their speech was then denied by a second agent. The second agent had an issue with the first one and it should not have impacted the constitutional rights of the choir.Because it's a denial of free speech.Because they didn't have a permit!
What is happening to this country?
Story with video @ SHAMEFUL! What security did to these middle school students at the 9/11 memorial is beyond belief
Can anyone articulate why this is "shameful"?
It's an American thing. You wouldn't understand.
Is it now.
And how is it a denial of "speech"? What "speech"?
You have evidence that they were shut down for the content of their singing, do ya?
It didn't. Nobody's Constitutional rights were violated, and yes content absolutely matters. Were you able to show the choir was shut down because of content, you'd have that point.
But that's not what happened -- they were shut down because of an action. An action that requires a permit.
They weren't singing for bystanders.It's a structured homage. No audience was required or expected. Therefore, not a performance. Just a ticky-tack opportunity for anti-Americans like you.Free speech doesn't require a permit. Only ticky-tack idiots would construe this as a performance. Any walking down the street whistling or even sauntering would then have to be considered a performance.The choir director had actually asked a security guard if singing the anthem was OK and told yes, it was OK, making the actions of the superior security person even more shameful.
I uh, don't think that counts as a "permit".
"Sauntering". I like it. Points for working in the word "sauntering". And even more points for working in the Malvina Reynolds reference.
But this is a choir, being conducted, in a regimented structure. That's a "performance".
Now if these authorities declared "you can't perform that particular song", you'd have a point.
If there's no audience ----- who's videotaping it? Robot-Americans?
According to this, a marching band and/or a crowd at a high school football game would require a performance permit to sing the national anthem before a game at a public school.
