Students Celebrate "Anti-Gay Day"

[C_Clayton_Jones]

WTF? Who is being coerced? No one. Both parties are willing, consenting adults. So it doesn't effect you at all.

Legal marriage involves coercion insofar as adoption, tax breaks and insurance subsidization. Unstructured families involve everyone as they contribute to social demise and community decay. That is more coercion. Homo marriage legally grants unstructured families.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

That's clearly not going to happen voting republican, given the fact most conservatives seek to stifle the liberty of gay Americans and dictate to women their choice as to whether they have a child or not.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Everyone’s for limited government, including prohibiting government from seeking to deny gay Americans their 14th Amendment right to access marriage law.

Indeed, 14th Amendment jurisprudence places limits and prohibitions on state and local governments from violating the rights of American citizens residing in the states, rendering invalid state and local measures intended to disadvantage a given class of person based solely on who they are, motivated only by an unwarranted hostility toward a class of persons, such as gay Americans.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I would like to see any evidence you have that gay marriage has been determined to contribute to social demise, while a 50% divorce rate among straight marriages is a structured family.

Marriage provides tax breaks for those in that institution. That is one of the +/- 1,400 benefits that married couples enjoy (federal, state & local).

Tax benefits and subsidization a coercions. Granting coercion based on irrelevant sex behavior is unacceptable and infringement on liberty.
Citing the increase in divorce as an excuse is attempting to use a bad thing to justify another bad thing.
Post-1960's culture demonstrates uniquely that family structure is socially pertinent. Contributing to the decay of family structure contributes to social demise. This is a fairly recent phenomenon and is obfuscated by homo marriage and single mom agendas because it is inconvenient.

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Nonsense.

Families come in all forms, including families with single parents and same-sex parents, all perfectly capable of providing structure, love, and guidance.

Your post is representative of most on the social right – the arrogance, the authoritarianism, the fear and contempt for diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty that manifest in seeking to compel conformity to your errant, hateful dogma through the force in law, completely contrary to the Constitution and its case law and the tenets of a free and democratic society.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Tax benefits and subsidization a coercions. Granting coercion based on irrelevant sex behavior is unacceptable and infringement on liberty.
Citing the increase in divorce as an excuse is attempting to use a bad thing to justify another bad thing.
Post-1960's culture demonstrates uniquely that family structure is socially pertinent. Contributing to the decay of family structure contributes to social demise. This is a fairly recent phenomenon and is obfuscated by homo marriage and single mom agendas because it is inconvenient.

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Kids need parents who love them and work to make sure they have what they need. Gender is not the issue.

No, that's old think. I used to believe that, too, until the reality of rampant unstructured families manifested itself in higher crime and failing schools. The more people encourage unstructured families the longer the problem will continue. Legal homo marriage contributes to the unstructured family problem.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Tax benefits and subsidization a coercions. Granting coercion based on irrelevant sex behavior is unacceptable and infringement on liberty.
Citing the increase in divorce as an excuse is attempting to use a bad thing to justify another bad thing.
Post-1960's culture demonstrates uniquely that family structure is socially pertinent. Contributing to the decay of family structure contributes to social demise. This is a fairly recent phenomenon and is obfuscated by homo marriage and single mom agendas because it is inconvenient.

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Nonsense.

Families come in all forms, including families with single parents and same-sex parents, all perfectly capable of providing structure, love, and guidance.

Your post is representative of most on the social right – the arrogance, the authoritarianism, the fear and contempt for diversity, dissent, and expressions of individual liberty that manifest in seeking to compel conformity to your errant, hateful dogma through the force in law, completely contrary to the Constitution and its case law and the tenets of a free and democratic society.

No, you're a way out of touch, outdated lefty conservative, too. Pay attention to the empirical and stop the slide. Lean forward.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Legal marriage involves coercion insofar as adoption, tax breaks and insurance subsidization. Unstructured families involve everyone as they contribute to social demise and community decay. That is more coercion. Homo marriage legally grants unstructured families.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

So get the gov't out of marriage altogether. I am all for limited gov't.

That would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. Legal marriage provides a solid support structure for families. Structured families.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Legal marriage involves coercion insofar as adoption, tax breaks and insurance subsidization. Unstructured families involve everyone as they contribute to social demise and community decay. That is more coercion. Homo marriage legally grants unstructured families.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

That's clearly not going to happen voting republican, given the fact most conservatives seek to stifle the liberty of gay Americans and dictate to women their choice as to whether they have a child or not.

How do proponents of structured families (assuming you refer to republicans as such) dictate choice to women and stifle liberty to homos?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Students Celebrate "Anti-Gay Day"'

Actually it's ignorance and hate day.

We can only hope as they grow older their ignorance is replaced with knowledge, bringing an end to their unwarranted fear and hate.

 

[WinterBorn]

Legal marriage involves coercion insofar as adoption, tax breaks and insurance subsidization. Unstructured families involve everyone as they contribute to social demise and community decay. That is more coercion. Homo marriage legally grants unstructured families.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

That's clearly not going to happen voting republican, given the fact most conservatives seek to stifle the liberty of gay Americans and dictate to women their choice as to whether they have a child or not.

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Kids need parents who love them and work to make sure they have what they need. Gender is not the issue.

No, that's old think. I used to believe that, too, until the reality of rampant unstructured families manifested itself in higher crime and failing schools. The more people encourage unstructured families the longer the problem will continue. Legal homo marriage contributes to the unstructured family problem.

Those things may have been due, in part, to the upswing in the number of single parent homes. But to blame a societal issue on gay marriage, when gay marriage has only been around for 11 years is ridiculous. Looking at schools, there are studies showing the lack of discipline and overcrowding to be as important as anything where a decline is concerned.

And the crime rates have been dropping since the mid 70s. Certainly longer than gay marriages have been around.

 

[WinterBorn]

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

So get the gov't out of marriage altogether. I am all for limited gov't.

That would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. Legal marriage provides a solid support structure for families. Structured families.

Gay marriage provides the same structure for families that straight marriages do.

 

[rdean]

I would like to see any evidence you have that gay marriage has been determined to contribute to social demise, while a 50% divorce rate among straight marriages is a structured family.

Marriage provides tax breaks for those in that institution. That is one of the +/- 1,400 benefits that married couples enjoy (federal, state & local).

Tax benefits and subsidization a coercions. Granting coercion based on irrelevant sex behavior is unacceptable and infringement on liberty.
Citing the increase in divorce as an excuse is attempting to use a bad thing to justify another bad thing.
Post-1960's culture demonstrates uniquely that family structure is socially pertinent. Contributing to the decay of family structure contributes to social demise. This is a fairly recent phenomenon and is obfuscated by homo marriage and single mom agendas because it is inconvenient.

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

So gay people raise criminals? All criminals?
What do you have to back that up?


Well?

Well?

Thought so.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Taxation and subsidization are constitutional and ethical.

Government is coercive. It is given the right by We the People.

Trot along, Rosh.

That is why we established a form of government that is supposed to be as minimal as possible, to reduce or eliminate coercion. You excuse communism. Way to go.

You and I did nothing of the sort. That was not the purpose of the creation of the government. Go read the Constitution. Legitimate government is coercion only to a broken mind who cannot accept that we live in and have commitments to creating a decent society.

You endorse larger government.

So do you, when you want Big Government action (progressivism) to stop marriage equality or deport all illegal aliens or whatever.

 

[JakeStarkey]

WTF? Who is being coerced? No one. Both parties are willing, consenting adults. So it doesn't effect you at all.

Legal marriage involves coercion insofar as adoption, tax breaks and insurance subsidization. Unstructured families involve everyone as they contribute to social demise and community decay. That is more coercion. Homo marriage legally grants unstructured families.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

So you are for marriage equality.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

People fear what they do not understand.

How interesting you being the one to say this when you couldn't be a better example of it the way that you never hesitate to give certain people here all of the grief that you give them about what they choose to stand for and believe in.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Oh I understand you just fine. You're overweight and fugly and look like an Ewok with mange. And you are obsessed with some guy named James Otto. You all sorts of pathetic

You don't understand people who believe in the Lord which is the group that I fall into, so I guess that means that you are scared of me and everyone else in the group since you say that people fear what they don't understand.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[JFK_USA]

What do you expect when homosexuals keep trying to force their values on kids

The values of treating people equally? Yeah that's just horrible.

 

[September]

People fear what they do not understand.

How interesting you being the one to say this when you couldn't be a better example of it the way that you never hesitate to give certain people here all of the grief that you give them about what they choose to stand for and believe in.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Oh I understand you just fine. You're overweight and fugly and look like an Ewok with mange. And you are obsessed with some guy named James Otto. You all sorts of pathetic

You don't understand people who believe in the Lord which is the group that I fall into, so I guess that means that you are scared of me and everyone else in the group since you say that people fear what they don't understand.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Actually I believe in YHWH as well, but in my own Sumero-Abrahamic Pagan way. I do not allow myself to be indoctrinated by religion, but I can find power in every single one of them.

And I did not say "All people fear everything they do not understand", you fucking mangy Ewok. The sky appears blue, but it ain't always blue. Sometimes it appears violet, or orange... or red. Or black. You get the idea.

Or perhaps you do not ^_^

​

 

[Moonglow]

People fear what they do not understand.

How interesting you being the one to say this when you couldn't be a better example of it the way that you never hesitate to give certain people here all of the grief that you give them about what they choose to stand for and believe in.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Oh I understand you just fine. You're overweight and fugly and look like an Ewok with mange. And you are obsessed with some guy named James Otto. You all sorts of pathetic

You don't understand people who believe in the Lord which is the group that I fall into, so I guess that means that you are scared of me and everyone else in the group since you say that people fear what they don't understand.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Actually I believe in YHWH as well, but in my own Sumero-Abrahamic Pagan way. I do not allow myself to be indoctrinated by religion, but I can find power in every single one of them.

And I did not say "All people fear everything they do not understand", you fucking mangy Ewok. The sky appears blue, but it ain't always fucking blue. Sometimes it appears violet or orange or red. Or black.

​

Not all a farts are made the same even though they are made from the same...

 

[JakeStarkey]

The marriages of gays is not about sexual behavior. They can have the same sex without being married.

They get married for the same reasons straight couples do. And that is the simple truth.

My marriages were not based on our sexual activities but on our love for one another and our desire to have a public, long-term, committed relationship. It is the same with gays. They are not gay based solely on what they do in bed, but also on who they love.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Kids need parents who love them and work to make sure they have what they need. Gender is not the issue.

No, that's old think. I used to believe that, too, until the reality of rampant unstructured families manifested itself in higher crime and failing schools. The more people encourage unstructured families the longer the problem will continue. Legal homo marriage contributes to the unstructured family problem.

Same Sex marriages are as structured as hetero marriages, and both more so than single parent families. Hetero marriage at a 50% divorce rate contributes to the unstructured family problem.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

'Students Celebrate "Anti-Gay Day"'

Actually it's ignorance and hate day.

We can only hope as they grow older their ignorance is replaced with knowledge, bringing an end to their unwarranted fear and hate.

Horseshit. A gay marriage contributes the same positives to our society that straight marriages do, with the possible exception of the birth of children.

According to Merriam Webster, the definition of "coerce" is:
"coerce
verb co·erce \kō-ˈərs\
: to make (someone) do something by using force or threats
: to get (something) by using force or threats"

That does not apply to any marriage, including same-sex marriages.

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

That's clearly not going to happen voting republican, given the fact most conservatives seek to stifle the liberty of gay Americans and dictate to women their choice as to whether they have a child or not.

No, marriage was created for solidification of family. It's just that that was such an obvious given they probably didn't expect it would need to be stipulated.
Now we get to endure the consequences of the semantic twisting of the original intent.
Thanks for the crime.

Crime? lmao Including same sex couples who wish to create a legal and long-term relationship is a crime? That is laughably insane. And it still solidifies the family. It makes it easier to adopt and gives both parents rights where the children (either adopted or artificially conceived) are concerned.

Marriage provides numerous benefits to our society. What benefits, other than natural conception of children, is not provided by a gay marriage?

Crime is the result of the depletion of structured families. Kids need a mother and a father, not either or two of either but both.

Kids need parents who love them and work to make sure they have what they need. Gender is not the issue.

No, that's old think. I used to believe that, too, until the reality of rampant unstructured families manifested itself in higher crime and failing schools. The more people encourage unstructured families the longer the problem will continue. Legal homo marriage contributes to the unstructured family problem.

Those things may have been due, in part, to the upswing in the number of single parent homes. But to blame a societal issue on gay marriage, when gay marriage has only been around for 11 years is ridiculous. Looking at schools, there are studies showing the lack of discipline and overcrowding to be as important as anything where a decline is concerned.

And the crime rates have been dropping since the mid 70s. Certainly longer than gay marriages have been around.

Homo marriage contributes to the problem. It's not blaming homo marriage exclusively. It's any circumstance that contrives unstructured families.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Taxation is coercion. Subsidization is coercion. Legal marriage provides for both.
Homo marriage contrives alternatives to structured families which have been empirically determined to contribute to social demise.
Get out of the 80's and progress a little.

Countries with weak governments are subjugated. Something asswipes want for this country.

No one I know wants a weak government. We want limited, efficient government that doesn't stifle liberty or dictate choice.

So get the gov't out of marriage altogether. I am all for limited gov't.

That would be throwing the baby out with the bath water. Legal marriage provides a solid support structure for families. Structured families.

Gay marriage provides the same structure for families that straight marriages do.

No, it doesn't. It's missing a necessary gender.