Sunni man ADMITS the goal of Islam is to take over non Islamic Countries

[Saigon]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

 

[Steelplate]

Which is not the point dumb ass. Look to Europe. France Sweden Belgium England. As the Muslim population grows they demand more and more concessions , resort to violence more and more when not met.

The REREAD what Sunni man said. He wants the Muslim population to vote AWAY your rights. He wants the Musli8m population to institute religious laws. Obviously this won't happen any time in the near future. BUT look to Europe for what happens in the West as Muslim populations grow in those Countries.

Do those European Countries have a Constitution such as ours? You'r like a child worrying about the boogeyman. Hey....I'm a Christian....do you really think THAT ANYTHING that happens in these matters isn't part of God's plan? If you believe that the great battle of good and evil is going to happen, don't you think that shit's going to happen to provoke it?
Not saying it's going to be Islam......could be anything...including Corporatism.......which the right seems to think of as a secondary religion.

I view Islam as a military takeover system, and sharia law is designed to make servile victims out of the female population. You should see what they do to Christian churches and Christians in their countries.

50 Christian Churches burned in Jamma, Ethiopia, by rampaging Muslims.

"suspected" Islamists burned down 7 schools. (Nigeria)

Palestinian Cleric Urges All Arabs to Murder christians, Jews, and Americans 'wherever they live.'

Hitler's book in Arab Hands They don't know Hitler planned their destruction after he destroyed the Jews, worldwide, according to this article's author.

Of course you view them that way. Just out of curiosity...am I seeing becki stick up for HITLER in this post?

 

[Dick Tuck]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Yep. It's always been subservient to Britan's public laws. We have it here in some jurisdictions, just as we have Canon law and Halakhah. If people want to say, get a divorce according to their faith, they can, and most courts will abide by it. It still doesn't prevent people from using civil courts, if they want.

 

[Artevelde]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Why are you again repeating your lies which have already been disproven in another thread. Sharia law has no legal standing and can't be enforced in the UK. The so-called sharia courts are voluntary, non-legal, institutions that have absolutely no standing in law.

 

[Artevelde]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Yep. It's always been subservient to Britan's public laws. We have it here in some jurisdictions, just as we have Canon law and Halakhah. If people want to say, get a divorce according to their faith, they can, and most courts will abide by it. It still doesn't prevent people from using civil courts, if they want.

Saigon is simply distorting the truth as usual.

 

[Artevelde]

Britpat-

Doesn't the UK already use Sharia law?

Can you tell us who it applies to and when?

No, the UK doesn't use sharia law and you know that full well. That lie of yours was already disproven.

 

[Steelplate]

So...Sharia Law is NOT taking over Europe like an out of control wildfire? Why doesn't that surprise me?

 

[Artevelde]

Which is not the point dumb ass. Look to Europe. France Sweden Belgium England. As the Muslim population grows they demand more and more concessions , resort to violence more and more when not met.
.

Really?

I live in Europe, and I haven't seen or heard of any "concessions" or violence happening around here.

Wat "concessions" are being demanded in Sweden?

Just like you to deny the upsurge of radical Muslim violence in Europe.

 

[Artevelde]

So...Sharia Law is NOT taking over Europe like an out of control wildfire? Why doesn't that surprise me?

Obviously it's not (that's just a lie by Saigon). Unfortunately some muslims in Europe do fight for that. It only exacerbates the existing tensions.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/relig...-when-america-becomes-an-islamic-country.html

We have had this discussion before and been told it just isn't true. That there is no effort by Islam to convert other Countries, that there is no danger that Islam would create a climate where Western Democracies were converted to Sharia law and no longer democratic at all.

I have told you all that Islam preaches that it must take over the planet. That is it's goal. Islam believes that all the world must be Islamic. And they do not believe in separation of Church and State. Islam teaches that Allah must run every thing including the Government.

There are two schools of thought on how to achieve this goal. One is that they must just bide their time and allow their birth rate and monolithic approach to convert those Countries currently not Islamic. The second is that by violence they can achieve more quickly the goal.

Sunni man has admitted to us at last that HIS goal and that of his religion is the overthrow of the democratic Government of the US and replace it with Islamic rule and Sharia law.

Wow. Well if a Sunni man said it, it must be true.

 

[Steelplate]

That's what I figured. We have our own faith based extremists that would love to see a theocracy here...they're called Conservative Christians. Thank God for Jefferson.

 

[007]

I can actually comprehend what Sunni Mn is trying to say... but(and I can't believe I am agreeing with this asshole) Bripat is actually right. It will never be brought up for a vote. The separation of Church and State prohibits the establishment of a National Religion. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Mormonism, whatever....all can be practiced....none can rule.
But as far as Islam "spreading the word" and trying to convert people....it really is the same as Christians trying to spread the Gospel.

Wrong. Islam believes that Allah must rule ALL including the Government. Islam believes MAN must make this happen. They believe that everyone must be Islamic and that those that are not are not worthy of life. They believe in killing those that leave the religion. They believe that unbelievers are not worth anything except as slaves.

Christians believe that all should learn of God through Jesus. That they should CHOSE to worship him. They do not believe that man must rule, they believe that God will destroy Satan with an army of Angels. They do not call for the death of anyone whether they leave the religion or not.

Islam demands MAN rule the Earth through the dictates of Allah. They demand that all convert or die. They believe that all Government must be Islamic run.

Christians do NOT believe man should rule the Earth. They believe that a final war between Good and evil will occur, Good being an Army of Angels. NOT man. They do not believe the Church should run the Government.

They do not believe that any one should be forced to covert. Only given the opportunity to do so.

I believe in the separation of church and state...nothing need more be said. Your irrational fear is just that...irrational.

Wrong, dick for brains, sunni-boy DID claim that America would become an islamic nation and be RULED by SHARIA LAW, and there IS NO separation of church and state under islam.

What IS irrational is that FUCKED IN THE HEAD muslim thinking that America is going to be taken over by islam and RULED by sharia law.

OVER MY DEAD BODY, and everybody else I know that would FIGHT TO THE DEATH to defeat ANY kind of fucking MUSLIM TAKE OVER.

"NOTHING NEED MORE BE SAID."

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Wrong. Islam believes that Allah must rule ALL including the Government. Islam believes MAN must make this happen. They believe that everyone must be Islamic and that those that are not are not worthy of life. They believe in killing those that leave the religion. They believe that unbelievers are not worth anything except as slaves.

Christians believe that all should learn of God through Jesus. That they should CHOSE to worship him. They do not believe that man must rule, they believe that God will destroy Satan with an army of Angels. They do not call for the death of anyone whether they leave the religion or not.

Islam demands MAN rule the Earth through the dictates of Allah. They demand that all convert or die. They believe that all Government must be Islamic run.

Christians do NOT believe man should rule the Earth. They believe that a final war between Good and evil will occur, Good being an Army of Angels. NOT man. They do not believe the Church should run the Government.

They do not believe that any one should be forced to covert. Only given the opportunity to do so.

I believe in the separation of church and state...nothing need more be said. Your irrational fear is just that...irrational.

Wrong, dick for brains, sunni-boy DID claim that America would become an islamic nation and be RULED by SHARIA LAW, and there IS NO separation of church and state under islam.

What IS irrational is that FUCKED IN THE HEAD muslim thinking that America is going to taken over by islam and RULED by sharia law.

OVER MY DEAD BODY, and everybody else I know that would FIGHT TO THE DEATH to defeat ANY kind of fucking MUSLIM TAKE OVER.

"NOTHING NEED MORE BE SAID."

No one gives a shit about your irrational paranoia.

 

[007]

I believe in the separation of church and state...nothing need more be said. Your irrational fear is just that...irrational.

Wrong, dick for brains, sunni-boy DID claim that America would become an islamic nation and be RULED by SHARIA LAW, and there IS NO separation of church and state under islam.

What IS irrational is that FUCKED IN THE HEAD muslim thinking that America is going to taken over by islam and RULED by sharia law.

OVER MY DEAD BODY, and everybody else I know that would FIGHT TO THE DEATH to defeat ANY kind of fucking MUSLIM TAKE OVER.

"NOTHING NEED MORE BE SAID."

No one gives a shit about your irrational paranoia.

Speak for yourself ya two bit, rancid puss sack.

 

[Saigon]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Yep. It's always been subservient to Britan's public laws. We have it here in some jurisdictions, just as we have Canon law and Halakhah. If people want to say, get a divorce according to their faith, they can, and most courts will abide by it. It still doesn't prevent people from using civil courts, if they want.

It seems ideal to me.

My only concern would be if women were somehow worse off from the Sharia judgement than they would have been that of a standard court - I think that needs to be guarded against.

 

[Artevelde]

The level of civil discourse just keeps rising to new heights here.

 

[Artevelde]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Yep. It's always been subservient to Britan's public laws. We have it here in some jurisdictions, just as we have Canon law and Halakhah. If people want to say, get a divorce according to their faith, they can, and most courts will abide by it. It still doesn't prevent people from using civil courts, if they want.

It seems ideal to me.

My only concern would be if women were somehow worse off from the Sharia judgement than they would have been that of a standard court - I think that needs to be guarded against.

Sharia law inherently gives fewer rights to women. That's the nature of Islam.

 

[007]

And Britpat doesn't answer.

The fact is, Sharia law has been used for years in the UK, to settle divorce and inheritance cases in Muslim/Muslim disputes.

I haven't heard that it has been a problem.

Yep. It's always been subservient to Britan's public laws. We have it here in some jurisdictions, just as we have Canon law and Halakhah. If people want to say, get a divorce according to their faith, they can, and most courts will abide by it. It still doesn't prevent people from using civil courts, if they want.

It seems ideal to me.

My only concern would be if women were somehow worse off from the Sharia judgement than they would have been that of a standard court - I think that needs to be guarded against.

Oh really? That's your only concern? Really? You have no idea what happens to women under sharia law? Are you that fucking ignorant?

Here's just ONE EXAMPLE out of THOUSANDS of what happens to women under sharia law. The koran even gives muslim men INSTRUCTIONS on HOW TO BEAT THEIR WIFE...

Report: Egyptian Man Beats Wife To Death For Not Voting For Muslim Brotherhood Candidate - Muslim Man Beats Wife To Death - Fox Nation

 

[Saigon]

Pale Rider -

No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just better informed than you are.

I suggest you check how Sharia law is working in the UK, and let me know whay your concerns are then.

In reality there are as many variations as to what Sharia Law means as there are countries which use it, but of the 20 or so countries which do use it, only in 4 does it actually mean the kind of sinsiter, draconian stone age punishments that we would all fight against.

Even in most muslim countries, it is largely used not for ciminal, contract or civil law, but to settle divorces, inheritances etc.

 

[Artevelde]

Pale Rider -

No, I'm not ignorant - I'm just better informed than you are.

I suggest you check how Sharia law is working in the UK, and let me know whay your concerns are then.

In reality there are as many variations as to what Sharia Law means as there are countries which use it, but of the 20 or so countries which do use it, only in 4 does it actually mean the kind of sinsiter, draconian stone age punishments that we would all fight against.

Even in most muslim countries, it is largely used not for ciminal, contract or civil law, but to settle divorces, inheritances etc.

Saigon just keeps lying as usual. And obviously not responding, since Saigon prefers to ignore inconvenient things like facts.