Superdelegates????

[dannyboys]

I don't need to be a supporter of anyone to call it the way it is. Just basic ethics/honesty is ALL that is needed. They ARE cheating that old man.

Damn thing is democrats seem to think Hillary will treat us more fairly more honestly then Sanders. She IS cheating in public no less. And you want to put her behind CLOSED doors running a country?

NO SALE.

How the DNC Helps Clinton Buy Off Superdelegates

 

[DarkFury]

But remember DarkFury...they (Dems) are the ones who put the system in place. They (super delegates) aren't cheating him, they are using the system to vote for who they feel is best.

The system is designed so the richer democrats have more chances. A member here just dropped a solid link a little bit ago how one ofHillary's Super-Pac is PAYING delegates.

She has a reported net worth of 250 million? Bernie has LESS then a half million in personal wealth. 330k was the last I read. That system was corrupt the day it was designed and Hillary IS using that design.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I wonder if the Dems can make a deal with Bernie after they steal the nomination away from him
if he wins but doesn't get the delegates.

What would it take to get Bernie to sit down and shut up....
VP maybe?

Sanders does not strike me as one who compromises his principles.

Sanders does not strike me as someone who's principles matter

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

But remember DarkFury...they (Dems) are the ones who put the system in place. They (super delegates) aren't cheating him, they are using the system to vote for who they feel is best.

To me this isn't fair. I didn't know what super delegates were until explained. These are party people, DNC, DLC etc. So, it seems that if the people, the voters choose Bernie Sanders, their choice can be denied them and the Party just anoint Hillary even though the voters haven't chosen her.

 

[Skylar]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

 

[DarkFury]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

"Highly unlikely" is STILL to far from honest. A lot like "kinda pregnant".

 

[Skylar]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

"Highly unlikely" is STILL to far from honest. A lot like "kinda pregnant".

Its never happened. Making an occurrence now highly unlikely. The Super Delegates record of voting with the people nationally is perfect.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[DarkFury]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

"Highly unlikely" is STILL to far from honest. A lot like "kinda pregnant".

Its never happened. Making an occurrence now highly unlikely. The Super Delegates record of voting with the people nationally is perfect.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

"highly unlikely" simply is NOT honest enough.
There is simply NO WAY you can justify the delegate count and even appear honest. They ARE stealing from that old man.

I hate Sanders politics I do, but that does NOT blind me from the ability to see theft. And that is what I am seeing.

 

[Skylar]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

"Highly unlikely" is STILL to far from honest. A lot like "kinda pregnant".

Its never happened. Making an occurrence now highly unlikely. The Super Delegates record of voting with the people nationally is perfect.

You simply have no idea what you're talking about.

"highly unlikely" simply is NOT honest enough.

We're speaking about the future. The kind of certainty you're demanding isn't possible. We can only speak of what is likely or unlikely. Its highly unlikely that the SD will vote against the people
nationally.

How do we know? Its so rare that its never happened.

There is simply NO WAY you can justify the delegate count and even appear honest. They ARE stealing from that old man.

Again, not a single Super Delegate vote has been counted. Its all hypothetical. Unlike the standard delegates, the SD can change their mind at any time up until their vote is tallied at the convention. Their votes aren't actually counted until then.

You're lamenting about a 'theft' that hasn't even happened. Nor is likely to.

 

[candycorn]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

I think the shit will really hit the fan if Sanders wins the majority of votes in the primaries and yet loses the nomination. There will be blood in the streets.

Nope. The Dems may bitch and moan but they'll line up behind Hillary. They do not want a Republican in office so like the good little sheep they are , they'll take their beaten and battered ego's and back Hillary. The DNC knows this.

I guess you weren't around for the 1968 Democratic Convention.

Nope...but his supporters say this very thing. Yes they want Sanders but they won't take their toys and go home handing the election to the Republicans. The Republicans must be kept out of office at all costs according to them. Especially when Trump is the nominee. Shit, their anger will last 30 seconds then they'll start rallying behind Hillary.

More like 3 seconds.

Democrats are pragmatic in my experience. The GOP just the opposite.

 

[candycorn]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

Kinda. A super delegate can change their mind at any time. Their votes aren't actually tallied until the convention. So any 'super delegate' count is a hypothetical one.

The Super Delegates in practice always vote with people on a national level. They exist largely to create a sense of momentum and strength for the establishment candidate. If Sanders were to actually win the majority of the vote nationally its highly unlikely the SD's would stick with Hillary.

Every 4 years, those who aer politically unsophisticated (aka republicans) make the same idiotic statements about super delegates and sound just as dense every quadrennial.

Bernie Sanders knew the process and procedure going into the contest. If he had been a Democrat for longer, strengthened his standing in the Party, done the deeds of patronage etc... he could have cultivated some SDs himself.

 

[Care4all]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

I think the shit will really hit the fan if Sanders wins the majority of votes in the primaries and yet loses the nomination. There will be blood in the streets.

The same is true if the GOP robs Trump if he wins most of the primaries. Except in Trump's case, there won't be a riot. He will either go third party or call on his supporters to boycott the election, thereby handing the election to Clinton.

Hillary Clinton in 2008 won the individual Primary vote, 18.1 million to 17.6 million for Obama, yet she lost the nomination for Presidential Candidate for the DNC....I don't remember the riots back then about super delegates?

About half of the super delegates/unpledged delegates have chosen not to commit to supporting Hillary...and a couple that have, have already switched their commitment from Hillary to Bernie.

Sanders knows the rules that were set before the Primary began.... he needs to get his rear in gear, and secure those super delegates.

IF Sanders makes no effort to do such, then perhaps he truly does not want to win the nomination and possibly be President... and is just in this race to have his political positions be heard....????

 

[Steven_R]

But remember DarkFury...they (Dems) are the ones who put the system in place. They (super delegates) aren't cheating him, they are using the system to vote for who they feel is best.

Unfortunately it's true....
Coin tosses and Super Delegates are part of the deal....

So much for the democratic process, huh Democrats?

 

[HappyJoy]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

I think the shit will really hit the fan if Sanders wins the majority of votes in the primaries and yet loses the nomination. There will be blood in the streets.

Nope. The Dems may bitch and moan but they'll line up behind Hillary. They do not want a Republican in office so like the good little sheep they are , they'll take their beaten and battered ego's and back Hillary. The DNC knows this.

I guess you weren't around for the 1968 Democratic Convention.

Nope...but his supporters say this very thing. Yes they want Sanders but they won't take their toys and go home handing the election to the Republicans. The Republicans must be kept out of office at all costs according to them. Especially when Trump is the nominee. Shit, their anger will last 30 seconds then they'll start rallying behind Hillary.

Rallying behind Clinton or just voting their best interests given the choices available to them?

The Super delegates thing needs to end and I think most rank and file Democrats agree. Accusing them of being sheeple is something else all together.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, 'coin flips' and this. The Democratic Party is a real mess. What's going on?

 

[Care4all]

Yeah, 'coin flips' and this. The Democratic Party is a real mess. What's going on?

Not a thing, this is and has been the DNC process for 30 something years... Bernie knows the process, he can get commitments from unpledged delegates if he wants them... he just hasn't even tried to get them, from what I can tell?

Personally, I don't believe Bernie wanted to be President when he chose to run...back then his chances were nil in winning, he chose to run anyway, to get his political message out there....

Superdelegates Won't Swipe the Nomination

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, 'coin flips' and this. The Democratic Party is a real mess. What's going on?

Not a thing, this is and has been the DNC process for 30 something years... Bernie knows the process, he can get commitments from unpledged delegates if he wants them... he just hasn't even tried to get them, from what I can tell?

Personally, I don't believe Bernie wanted to be President when he chose to run...back then his chances were nil in winning, he chose to run anyway, to get his political message out there....

Superdelegates Won't Swipe the Nomination

Seems like a very bizarre system. 'Coin flips' and 'Super Delegates?' Yikes.

 

[Ernie S.]

I wonder if the Dems can make a deal with Bernie after they steal the nomination away from him
if he wins but doesn't get the delegates.

What would it take to get Bernie to sit down and shut up....
VP maybe?

Sanders does not strike me as one who compromises his principles.

THAT'S funny. He's running as a Democrat and has been a life long Socialist. If that's not compromising his principles, what is?

 

[Ernie S.]

The real question is:

If Sander wins, will he offer Hillary SoS, or an Ambassadorship?

He might offer her a pardon...

 

[Ernie S.]

Despite a resounding victory in New Hampshire and a virtual tie in Iowa, Clinton's massive superdelegate lead puts her ahead 481-55 in delegates to the Democratic National Convention.

How to you Sanders supporters feel about this crap?

How do you clinton supporters justify this shit?

not that you really give a flying... but if it turned out he was hugely ahead of her the superdelegates would go with the electorate like they did with the president.

I know the wingers want to run against Bernie, so thanks for your concern.

I still doubt clinton will be the nominee, but frankly, I don't much care whether you run the commie or the crook.