Supreme Court justices RIP ruling forcing states to recognize same-sex marriages - 'Threat To Religious Freedom!'

[meaner gene]

For animals, you would have to get past the "consent" requirement, besides, it's illegal to have sex with them for the same reason.

For blood relatives, different states draw the line at how close a blood relative can be in order to lessen the possibility to genetic defects.

Do animals give consent to being locked up in a house? Do animals give consent to being put on a leash to go outside for a walk? Your claim is ridiculous.

Marriage is a legal contract, which requires consent to enter into.

 

[bodecea]

Rather, the pendulum has swung porky.

It's gonna swing back, Chubby. Whatever will you INCELs do?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Obergefell is unConstitutional and needs to be overturned.

It forced Davis to choose between her religious beliefs and her job.

Her religious beliefs are protected under the 1st amendment to the US Constitution.

The Obergefell ruling violates the 1st Amendment.

How much horseshit can you actually spew in one day ? Not only did she refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay people, but she also forbade her staff from doing so. And alow me to point out that many Christians disagree with her and support gay marriage. Her rights were not violated and she was not personally harmed by gay marriage. She harmed herself by refusing to do her job and willfully being in contemp of court . Most of the conservative Suprememe court agreed buy throwing out the case for lack of standing.

 

[Meathead]

It's gonna swing back, Chubby. Whatever will you INCELs do?

I thought you guys preferred calling yourselves "horizontally challenged". Is "incel" a new and more politically-correct term?

 

[John T. Ford]

What woman What are you talking about. Religious freedom does not include the ability to discriminate or control others

Kim Davis.

Look it up.

This has nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with the Constitution.

If they want to deny Americans their 1st Amendment Rights then let Congress propose an Amendment to the Constitution.

There is an avenue for that.

What they can't do is use a ruling like in the Obergefell case to deny Americans their Constitutional Rights.

That is exactly what they have done here and when Obergefell comes up again it will be repealed base on exactly that.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Forcing states to recognize gay marriage is unConstitutional and will be eventually overturned.

Keep dreaming. At no time in history has a right that has been won been revoked. Can you immaging the outrage? The disruption to society and the legal system.? Do you think that the 700K gay marriages already performed should be annulled ? Have you thought about the children who would be deprived of the legal and financial security of having married parents who are both their legal guardians? How stupid are you?

 

[John T. Ford]

How much horseshit can you actually spew in one day ? Not only did she refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay people, but she also forbade her staff from doing so. And alow me to point out that many Christians disagree with her and support gay marriage. Her rights were not violated and she was not personally harmed by gay marriage. She harmed herself by refusing to do her job and willfully being in contemp of court . Most of the conservative Suprememe court agreed buy throwing out the case for lack of standing.

You backwards bobbies are always so damn emotional.

The state cannot force anyone to act against their religious belief without Amending the Constitution.

Forcing the states to recognize gay marriage is unConstitutional for that very reason.

I could give a shit less what you people do.

But, you can't violate the Bill of Rights.

I suspect you are not smart to understand why.

 

[bodecea]

I thought you guys preferred calling yourselves "horizontally challenged". Is "incel" a new and more politically-correct term?

You "thought"? I seriously doubt that, Chubby. And INCEL....
incel
/ˈinˌsel/

noun

1. a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.
   "self-identified incels have used the internet to find anonymous support"
   
   
   

 

[bodecea]

Kim Davis.

Look it up.

This has nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with the Constitution.

If they want to deny Americans their 1st Amendment Rights then let Congress propose an Amendment to the Constitution.

There is an avenue for that.

What they can't do is use a ruling like in the Obergefell case to deny Americans their Constitutional Rights.

That is exactly what they have done here and when Obergefell comes up again it will be repealed base on exactly that.

Kim Davis.....married four times and used by GOP presidential candidates. Where is that loser today?

 

[John T. Ford]

Keep dreaming. At no time in history has a right that has been won been revoked. Can you immaging the outrage? The disruption to society and the legal system.? Do you think that the 700K gay marriages already performed should be annulled ? Have you thought about the children who would be deprived of the legal and financial security of having married parents who are both their legal guardians? How stupid are you?

It's not a right.

It's hanging on by a single SCOTUS ruling that is unConstitutional.

I am not saying it's going away.

But, it isn't going to always be what it is now.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

The point that flew over your head is animals don't have rights and do not need to give consent to anything. We have laws that prohibit mistreating and hurting animals, but it's not because they have rights, it's because we as a society find it deplorable.

Bullshit. Animals do have rights. But you are just using this animal thing as a red herring to deflect attention from the real issues here. I asked you several time how you and society has been harmed by same sex marriage . You have yrt to answer. Why is that ? Cat got your tongue? LOL

 

[meaner gene]

Kim Davis.

Look it up.

This has nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with the Constitution.

Kimberly Jean Davis (née Bailey; born September 17, 1965) is a former county clerk for Rowan County, Kentucky, who gained international attention in August 2015 when she defied a U.S. federal court order to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

Davis was elected Rowan County Clerk in 2014. The following year, the Supreme Court decided Obergefell v. Hodges, and all county clerks in Kentucky were ordered to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Citing personal religious objections to same-sex marriage, Davis began denying marriage licenses to all couples to avoid issuing them to same-sex couples

she was ultimately jailed for contempt of court.[4] Davis was released after five days in jail under the condition that she not interfere with the efforts of her deputy clerks, who had begun issuing marriage licenses to all couples in her absence. Davis then modified the Kentucky marriage licenses used in her office so that they no longer mentioned her name.

 

[surada]

That ALL states MUST recognize same-sex MARRIAGES is found NO WHERE in the U.S. Constitution, & such a forced mandate on Religious persons and institutions poses a threat to religious freedom!

"Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito said Monday that Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court case that mandated all states recognize same-sex marriages, is "found nowhere in the text" of the Constitution and threatens "the religious liberty of the many Americans who believe that marriage is a sacred institution between one man and one woman."

"The statement was written by Thomas and joined by Alito about the case of Kim Davis, a former Kentucky county clerk who said she would not give same-sex couples marriage licenses. The two justices said they agreed with the consensus of the court that it should not take Davis' case, but only because it did not "cleanly present" the "important questions about the scope of our decision in Obergefell."

Thomas and Alito dissented from the original Obergefell decision and their statement Monday could indicate that they would vote to overturn it if presented the chance."



"Obergefell enables courts and governments to brand religious adherents who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman as bigots, making their religious liberty concerns that much easier to dismiss," he wrote. "In other words, Obergefell was read to suggest that being a public official with traditional Christian values was legally tantamount to invidious discrimination toward homosexuals."

Just because you have a deep RELIGIOUS conviction regarding marriage being between a man and a woman and does not include same-sex marriages does NOT make one a Bigot or Homophobe and protects that religious belief / conviction.

Thomas added: "This assessment flows directly from Obergefell’s language, which characterized such views as 'disparag[ing]' homosexuals and 'diminish[ing] their personhood' through '[d]ignitary wounds.'"

Justices Thomas, Alito slam Obergefell same-sex marriage decision as Supreme Court denies Kim Davis case

The statement was written by Thomas and joined by Alito about the case of Kim Davis, a former Kentucky county clerk who said she would not give same-sex couples marriage licenses.

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You don't have to attend same sex weddings or invite homosexual couples to dinner.. What exactly is your problem?

 

[Meathead]

You "thought"? I seriously doubt that, Chubby. And INCEL....
incel
/ˈinˌsel/

noun

1. a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.
   "self-identified incels have used the internet to find anonymous support"
   
   

Shit, I'm 65 and sexually active so that's not me. But I don't do porkers.

Keep trying. There are sites for fat chicks, I'm sure.

 

[meaner gene]

You backwards bobbies are always so damn emotional.

The state cannot force anyone to act against their religious belief without Amending the Constitution.

Forcing the states to recognize gay marriage is unConstitutional for that very reason.

Except that states do not have religious beliefs, via 14th amendment, First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

The states have no dog in the hunt.

 

[John T. Ford]

Except that states do not have religious beliefs, via 14th amendment, First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

The states have no dog in the hunt.

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

There's the states dog right there !!!!!

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Freedom of association is not explicitly stated, but very strongly implied by the freedoms of religion and assembly that are explicitly stated in the First Amendment. This would necessarily include a right not to associate in any context with any individual that one chooses not to associate with, for whatever reason one makes that choice.

Horseshit Bobby. Freedom of assebly is generally considered to mean that a group can gather for any purpose without being harassed. It has nothing to do with workplace or any other form of discrimination

Freedom of religion means that you can express your beliefs, worship openly and live accordance with the tenants of your faith without fear. It does not mean that you can dictate how others live or what they believe.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Except that states do not have religious beliefs, via 14th amendment, First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

The states have no dog in the hunt.

You got him with that zinger!

 

[meaner gene]

Except that states do not have religious beliefs, via 14th amendment, First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

The states have no dog in the hunt.

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

There's the states dog right there !!!!!

You have it backwards Descartes.

 

[John T. Ford]

Horseshit Bobby. Freedom of assebly is generally considered to mean that a group can gather for any purpose without being harassed. It has nothing to do with workplace or any other form of discrimination

Freedom of religion means that you can express your beliefs, worship openly and live accordance with the tenants of your faith without fear. It does not mean that you can dictate how others live or what they believe.

"It does not mean that you can dictate how others live or what they believe"

Which is exactly what the state did when they fired Kim Davis.