Supreme Court Sides With Planned Parenthood. Funding Not Removed

[OldLady]

You are always so sensible, but Roe v. Wade made abortion a federal right, didn't it?. Until that's overturned, the feds trump. The Supreme Court can't change that, can they?

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

My understanding is that they were Medicaid funds being paid for services already rendered. Am I wrong?
And none of those funds cover a single abortion.

 

[Darkwind]

The Supreme Court refused to hear a case that defunds Planned Parenthood thus allowing the lower court ruling to stop Louisiana and Kansas from defunding Planned Parenthood.

That means two conservative judges on the court, including one trump appointed, voted with all the liberal judges to prohibit those states from defunding Planned Parenthood. They recognized that the funding Louisiana and Kansas are trying to repeal is for medical services and not for abortions so the funding can't be removed. At least 2 conservatives pay attention to truth and ignore the lies about Planned Parenthood.

That's gotta be a slap in the face to all you conservative trump supporters.

You lost another one thanks to two conservatives on our Supreme Court.

It's a very good ruling.

Supreme Court won't consider state efforts to defund Planned Parenthood

It's not a ruling, it's allowing a lower court's ruling to stand.

Stop trying to inflate what actually happened.

A poor choice for the SCOTUS. But then, no one conservative has ever said they were not fallible.

 

[OldLady]

You are always so sensible, but Roe v. Wade made abortion a federal right, didn't it?. Until that's overturned, the feds trump. The Supreme Court can't change that, can they?

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

So the state should pass a law saying no clinics performing abortions in their state will be allowed. See how it turns out in court.

 

[Dana7360]

Sorry, but true.
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Actually that baby in your cartoon IS protected. Fail on your part.

No that living breathing baby isn't protected if it's parents aren't properly educated with a good job that pays a proper living wage and includes heath care insurance.

If that baby's parents don't have that, that baby most certainly isn't safe. That baby is denied proper health care, proper nutrition, and proper education to name a few.

Once that fetus has been born and is an actual baby, it's on it's own as far as the conservatives are concerned. That baby is just a thug or leach or one of many words that conservatives use to describe a baby that's legally alive and breathing air.

I certainly would like to know why it's ok for a man to create a pregnancy but turn his back and walk away from his own flesh and blood. To even deny his own flesh and blood. That is just perfectly fine in our society and with conservatives.

I don't know. Any woman in Maine who collects welfare and has a baby, the state's attorney has the bio daddy found and sued and his paycheck garnished. Of course, there are ways to get around it, but it's a pretty complicated life, hiding all your income like an illegal immigrant. And the state will also suspend your driver's license and refuse you a hunting license if you're a deadbeat. So there.
And they Order DNA testing just to be sure. AND other states cooperate with them, so moving doesn't solve the problem.

It's just too bad that not all states are like Maine.

Most aren't like that.

 

[OldLady]

The hospitals appropriate the money any way they want. That's the loop hole.

Perhaps, but they charge a significant amount for an abortion--about 8 years ago is was around $600. That money also goes somewhere, doesn't it?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Sorry, but true.
View attachment 233932

Actually that baby in your cartoon IS protected. Fail on your part.

No that living breathing baby isn't protected if it's parents aren't properly educated with a good job that pays a proper living wage and includes heath care insurance.

If that baby's parents don't have that, that baby most certainly isn't safe. That baby is denied proper health care, proper nutrition, and proper education to name a few.

Once that fetus has been born and is an actual baby, it's on it's own as far as the conservatives are concerned. That baby is just a thug or leach or one of many words that conservatives use to describe a baby that's legally alive and breathing air.

I certainly would like to know why it's ok for a man to create a pregnancy but turn his back and walk away from his own flesh and blood. To even deny his own flesh and blood. That is just perfectly fine in our society and with conservatives.

I don't know. Any woman in Maine who collects welfare and has a baby, the state's attorney has the bio daddy found and sued and his paycheck garnished. Of course, there are ways to get around it, but it's a pretty complicated life, hiding all your income like an illegal immigrant. And the state will also suspend your driver's license and refuse you a hunting license if you're a deadbeat. So there.
And they Order DNA testing just to be sure. AND other states cooperate with them, so moving doesn't solve the problem.

30 years ago I seem to recall that Florida would reposess your car if you didnt pay up. Great stuff.

 

[OldLady]

Sorry, but true.
View attachment 233932

Actually that baby in your cartoon IS protected. Fail on your part.

No that living breathing baby isn't protected if it's parents aren't properly educated with a good job that pays a proper living wage and includes heath care insurance.

If that baby's parents don't have that, that baby most certainly isn't safe. That baby is denied proper health care, proper nutrition, and proper education to name a few.

Once that fetus has been born and is an actual baby, it's on it's own as far as the conservatives are concerned. That baby is just a thug or leach or one of many words that conservatives use to describe a baby that's legally alive and breathing air.

I certainly would like to know why it's ok for a man to create a pregnancy but turn his back and walk away from his own flesh and blood. To even deny his own flesh and blood. That is just perfectly fine in our society and with conservatives.

I don't know. Any woman in Maine who collects welfare and has a baby, the state's attorney has the bio daddy found and sued and his paycheck garnished. Of course, there are ways to get around it, but it's a pretty complicated life, hiding all your income like an illegal immigrant. And the state will also suspend your driver's license and refuse you a hunting license if you're a deadbeat. So there.
And they Order DNA testing just to be sure. AND other states cooperate with them, so moving doesn't solve the problem.

It's just too bad that not all states are like Maine.

Most aren't like that.

We only have a million people to deal with. I suppose that helps.

 

[g5000]

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

So the state should pass a law saying no clinics performing abortions in their state will be allowed. See how it turns out in court.

No, the state is simply saying it will not help fund abortion clinics. They are not banning abortion clinics. They simply are not paying for them.

It's very simple.

 

[g5000]

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

My understanding is that they were Medicaid funds being paid for services already rendered. Am I wrong?
And none of those funds cover a single abortion.

If you are informed you will no longer receive Medicaid funds, and continue to provide services, it is not the state's doing that you rendered services for which you knew you would not be reimbursed.

 

[Darkwind]

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

So the state should pass a law saying no clinics performing abortions in their state will be allowed. See how it turns out in court.

That isn't the arguement at all.

The state should not provide taxpayer funds to clinics who perform abortions, regardless of the other services they provide UNLESS it can be shown that no taxpayer money was used in the performance of an abortion. Since all money is fungible to these kinds of places, there is no way they can prove that and would require them to set funds into two separate accounts. That would be fine by Me.

However, if the clinic wishes to perform abortions, they can do so without taxpayer money.

The SCOTUS simply made a mistake by passing on this ruling.

 

[JGalt]

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal. See: Hyde Amendment.

It is the opinion of those states that any federal funding to PP is funding abortions. And I agree with them.

Federal funding of abortions is actually illegal.

Yet stopping abortion, which is a federal right, is the right of the state?

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.

Louisiana and Kansas did not ban abortions.

No, stopping the funding of an abortion clinic is the right of the state.
Sounds like they should find a way to do that without trying to steal funds that are rightfully owed to the clinic.

How are funds "rightfully owed" to an abortion clinic? Is there a line in the US Constitution that says a state has the right to abortions paid for by the federal government?

So the state should pass a law saying no clinics performing abortions in their state will be allowed. See how it turns out in court.

That's basically what the 10th Amendment says: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

Let the states decide.

 

[g5000]

It's very simple. STOP DOING ABORTIONS and you get all the Medicaid money for women's HEALTH services.

The abortion mill refuses to give up their core business, and pretends they are about women's health.

 

[Rustic]

Sorry, but true.
View attachment 233932

Actually that baby in your cartoon IS protected. Fail on your part.

No that living breathing baby isn't protected if it's parents aren't properly educated with a good job that pays a proper living wage and includes heath care insurance.

If that baby's parents don't have that, that baby most certainly isn't safe. That baby is denied proper health care, proper nutrition, and proper education to name a few.

Once that fetus has been born and is an actual baby, it's on it's own as far as the conservatives are concerned. That baby is just a thug or leach or one of many words that conservatives use to describe a baby that's legally alive and breathing air.

I certainly would like to know why it's ok for a man to create a pregnancy but turn his back and walk away from his own flesh and blood. To even deny his own flesh and blood. That is just perfectly fine in our society and with conservatives.

Lol
You don’t have any credibility to tell anyone else what to think on the subject

 

[otto105]

The left is all giddy the murder of the most innocent of all by PP will continue.

I'm happy healthcare will continue to be delivered to people who need it.

I'm glad the conservative deep state lost.

 

[Baz Ares]

The left is all giddy the murder of the most innocent of all by PP will continue.

If you know where babies are being murdered why don`t you get off your fat lazy ass and take action? Have you called the police?

Gfy loon, if you support it you're just as compliant.

Proud of that, asshole?

Now get past anyone takes your stupid ass serious. Fckin loon

Sorry Butch but I support women`s rights to a legal medical procedure.

Women have a right to have other people pay for a medical procedure? Lol

why is abortion illegal in some cases? the lord plans all miscarriages, as these abortions anytime are in-douched by the lord are legally approved by church teachings

 

[Baz Ares]

The left is all giddy the murder of the most innocent of all by PP will continue.

If you know where babies are being murdered why don`t you get off your fat lazy ass and take action? Have you called the police?

Gfy loon, if you support it you're just as compliant.

Proud of that, asshole?

Now get past anyone takes your stupid ass serious. Fckin loon

^^^Supports the state controlling women's bodies.

Not even close, fuckwit. Opposes tax payer money being used to murder innocents.

Now you gfy also

more people pay taxes that want their money used in free abortions. you fool pro choice folks pay taxes moron. 78% of voters approve abortion for few to any reasons.

 

[Baz Ares]

The Supreme Court refused to hear a case that defunds Planned Parenthood thus allowing the lower court ruling to stop Louisiana and Kansas from defunding Planned Parenthood.

That means two conservative judges on the court, including one trump appointed, voted with all the liberal judges to prohibit those states from defunding Planned Parenthood. They recognized that the funding Louisiana and Kansas are trying to repeal is for medical services and not for abortions so the funding can't be removed. At least 2 conservatives pay attention to truth and ignore the lies about Planned Parenthood.

That's gotta be a slap in the face to all you conservative trump supporters.

You lost another one thanks to two conservatives on our Supreme Court.

It's a very good ruling.

Supreme Court won't consider state efforts to defund Planned Parenthood

You liberals are stupid.

SCOTUS refusing to hear a case doesn't mean they agreed with the lower court ruling, it means they decided that they have no reason to accept the case.

Taking the case and agreeing with the lower court ruling would mean they agreed with the lower court ruling.

Morons

dang two DOPer justices won't save babies...wow!

 

[busybee01]

The Supreme Court refused to hear a case that defunds Planned Parenthood thus allowing the lower court ruling to stop Louisiana and Kansas from defunding Planned Parenthood.

That means two conservative judges on the court, including one trump appointed, voted with all the liberal judges to prohibit those states from defunding Planned Parenthood. They recognized that the funding Louisiana and Kansas are trying to repeal is for medical services and not for abortions so the funding can't be removed. At least 2 conservatives pay attention to truth and ignore the lies about Planned Parenthood.

That's gotta be a slap in the face to all you conservative trump supporters.

You lost another one thanks to two conservatives on our Supreme Court.

It's a very good ruling.

Supreme Court won't consider state efforts to defund Planned Parenthood

It's not a ruling, it's allowing a lower court's ruling to stand.

Stop trying to inflate what actually happened.

Don't ignore what was done either. It is very clear that John Roberts does not want a high profile case dealing with divisive social issues. It also suggests that Roberts could fill the role played by Kennedy. Don't be sure that the Supreme Court will side with red states on social issues.

 

[Dale Smith]

The Supreme Court refused to hear a case that defunds Planned Parenthood thus allowing the lower court ruling to stop Louisiana and Kansas from defunding Planned Parenthood.

That means two conservative judges on the court, including one trump appointed, voted with all the liberal judges to prohibit those states from defunding Planned Parenthood. They recognized that the funding Louisiana and Kansas are trying to repeal is for medical services and not for abortions so the funding can't be removed. At least 2 conservatives pay attention to truth and ignore the lies about Planned Parenthood.

That's gotta be a slap in the face to all you conservative trump supporters.

You lost another one thanks to two conservatives on our Supreme Court.

It's a very good ruling.

Supreme Court won't consider state efforts to defund Planned Parenthood

Leftards claim that taxpayer money doesnt subsidize abortion allllll the time......funny.

 

[blackhawk]

Wasn't Kavanaugh the deciding vote on that? The same man the left sacrificed their chance to get the Senate in the midterms in order to keep him off the court bit of irony there.