Switzerland issues every adult a gun and trains them how to use it: Switzerland has lowest gun-relat

[2aguy]

Are you dishonest?

Regardless of how the guns got into society, they are now there, everywhere and easily available to most of the population one way or another.


You lefties argue that the problem driving our high murder rate is easy availability of guns.

Switzerland proves that that is not the case.

What's easy about joining the military?

I already addressed that point above.

By ignoring my response and simply repeating your original position, you are engaged in the dishonest Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion in the propaganda form.


Your argument is invalid.


You have in effect admitted that you know that you cannot defend your argument on it's merits.

My original position was not refuted.

I did not claim it was "refuted".

I said it was "addressed".

By ignoring that, and simply repeating your original position, you are engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion as a form of propaganda.


Thus, your argument is invalid.


You have in effect admitted that you know that you cannot defend your argument on it's merits.

The number one issue on gun control is currently whether to close the background check loopholes. You oppose that.
Closing the background check loopholes would in fact make our system more like Switzerland. You are arguing for Switzerland as your model for gun rights and gun control,

while at the same time you oppose the Swiss model.

The only reason anti-gunners want universal background checks is because they want to register all guns....universal background checks gives them that opportunity...since UBCs will need universal gun registration to keep track of the gun sales that private individuals make.......and that is what they will say the next time a mass shooting happesn...even though not one mass shooter ever acquired their gun through a private sale............

But...just like Orlando, they will hope for a shooting with a high enough body count where they can put out laws that have nothing to do with the situation in the hope they can pass them without people thinking about them.......

The myth of the gun show loophole.....

7 Gun Control Myths That Just Won't Die

Nine Myths About Gun Control

1) The ‘Gun Show Loophole’ Allows Anyone, Even Criminals, To Get Guns

In reality, the so-called “gun show loophole” is a myth. It does not exist. There is no loophole in federal law that specifically exempts gun show transactions from any other laws normally applied to gun sales. Not one.



If you purchase a firearm from a federal firearms licensee (FFL) regardless of the location of the transaction — a gun store, a gun show, a gun dealer’s car trunk, etc. — that FFL must confirm that you are legally allowed to purchase that gun. That means the FFL must either run a background check on you via the federal NICS database, or confirm that you have passed a background check by examining your state-issued concealed carry permit or your government-issued purchase permit. There are zero exceptions to this federal requirement.

If an individual purchases a gun across state lines — from an individual or FFL which resides in a different state than the buyer — the buyer must undergo a background check, and the sale must be processed by an FFL in the buyer’s home state.




What does exist, however, is a federal exemption for sales between two private, non-FFL residents of the same state, regardless of whether that transaction happens at a gun show or not. The identity of the parties involved in the transaction, not the venue of the sale, is what matters under federal law. This federal exemption makes perfect sense: there’s no federal nexus for a purely private transaction between two private individuals who reside in the same state. Many states, including Oregon,Colorado, and Illinois, have enacted universal background checks in order to eliminate the exemption for same-state private firearms transactions.

Federal universal background checks may or may not be a wise idea — the U.S. Senate in 2013 explicitly refused to enact them — but referring to the federal exemption for private, same-state sales as a “gun show loophole” is misleading and factually inaccurate.

 

[AceRothstein]

Switzerland also has low income inequality, outstanding education, and universal healthcare.