Syrian Crises Spreads Into Lebanon

[georgephillip]

Say, Mr. George, since we are on the Middle East forum, can you give us your take about how the Middle East might be a peaceful place to live if the Muslims of different sects stopped killing each other along with the Christians, or don't you care about this at all if the Jews are not involved for you to blame? Strange how Mr. George, even though he is now on the Middle East forum, he still wants to blabber about Israel and nothing else. As for the rubble, maybe the Saudis who are very, very wealthy can pay the Gazans to accumulate the trash in specific places and then the Saudis can lease some huge garbage scows to pick up the rubble and dump it in the ocean or in their country since they have a lot of desert land. As for a valuable piece of real estate, why if the Gazans had been peaceful and not started shooting off rockets into Israel, they could have built a Monte Carlo in part of the strip. Think of all the gambling money they could have raked in from visitors all over the world, just like the Native Americans are doing with their casinos. Why not visit the Chumash Casino or Perchango Casino, Mr. George, and find out how they started and you can give the Gazans some advice on how to go about it.

"The Iraqi 'Comprehensive Plan to End Displacement', developed with UNHCR's support, incorporates key humanitarian elements tailored to improve access to basic services, livelihoods and employment in areas of return.

"It also includes shelter programmes for areas of displacement.

"Due to the unrest in the Syrian Arab Republic (Syria), Iraqi refugees in that country are increasingly opting to return home in large numbers, with some 32,000 arriving in July and August 2012 alone.

"This movement is in addition to the flight of thousands of Syrian nationals escaping the violence, who are either being accommodated by host communities or residing in camps.

"Another challenge facing the Iraqi Government and the international community is to provide humanitarian assistance and sustainable solutions for some 1.2 million Iraqi internally displaced persons (IDPs), in addition to offering protection and emergency support to tens of thousands of refugees in the country."

Which country do you blame for the millions of Iraqi refugees, Syria or Lebanon?

UNHCR - Iraq

I giess Mr. George has never visited any casinos in his area so forget about the job for Mr. George of showing the Gazans how to become another Monte Carlo. Actually, Mr. George, even though I know you hate this country but wouldn't dream of leaving your little apartment for a place where you would feel more comfortable (like Cuba perhaps), I blame the outside insurgents which poured into Iraq because they couldn't stand the thought of a democracy there. Democracy appears to be incompatible with Islam. As for Syria, it was between Assad and the FSA. Again the outside insurgents came pouring in instead of letting the two Syrian entities fight it out amongst themselves. As for Lebanon, couldn't the Palestinians have behaved themselves in Lebanon? Did they really have to start in on the Maronite Christians. However, you just continue on with your Cut and Pastes over and over. No one wants to see your crown slip from being the King of Cut and Pastes. I bet you that if Mr. George could find a way, he would even try to blame the U.S. and Israel for Black September when the previous King of Jordan, with the help of the Pakistani Army, killed thousands and thousands of Palestinians.

Insurgents poured into Iraq to defend it against an illegal invasion by the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet, exactly as the war whore$ privately predicted; obviously democracy isn't compatible with capitalism

Likewise the greatest purveyor of violence in the world was stoking the for-profit killing in Syria:

"In June 2012, the Central Intelligence Agency was reported to be involved in covert operations along the Turkish-Syrian border, where agents investigated rebel groups, recommending arms providers which groups to give aid to.

"Agents also helped opposition forces develop supply routes, and provided them with communications training.[20]

"CIA operatives distributed assault rifles, anti-tank rocket launchers and other ammunition to Syrian opposition.

"The State Department has reportedly allocated $15 million for civilian opposition groups in Syria.[21]

"In July 2012, the United States government granted a non-governmental organization called Syrian Support Group a license to fund the Free Syrian Army.[22]

"In early March 2013, a Jordanian security source revealed that the United States, Britain, and France were training non-Islamist rebels in Jordan.[23]

"In April 2013, also in Jordan, the United States had set up a $70 million program in the country 'that is training the kingdom’s special forces to identify and secure chemical-weapons sites across Syria should the regime fall and the wrong rebels look like getting their hands on them.'[24]

"In April 2013, the Obama administration promised to double non-lethal aid to rebels, specifically to $250 million..."

"An argument exists that the Obama administration is not interested in a quick victory in Syria, instead it wants a protracted conflict to drain Iranian and Hezbollah resources."

Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, Has(ally)bara, the greatest purveyor of violence in the world is prolonging Syria's misery to bleed Iran and Hezbolla; aren't you happy?

 

[Desperado]

Not our problem, let them sort it out for themselves.

 

[georgephillip]

Not our problem, let them sort it out for themselves.

Some would argue we made it our problem with OIL in 2003 or Desert Storm in 1991 or Operation Ajax in 1953.

 

[Desperado]

Not our problem, let them sort it out for themselves.

Some would argue we made it our problem with OIL in 2003 or Desert Storm in 1991 or Operation Ajax in 1953.

That was then, this is now.
Times have changed. Not our problem....

 

[georgephillip]

Not our problem, let them sort it out for themselves.

Some would argue we made it our problem with OIL in 2003 or Desert Storm in 1991 or Operation Ajax in 1953.

That was then, this is now.
Times have changed. Not our problem....

Are you planning to visit Boston or New York anytime in the future?

 

[Desperado]

Some would argue we made it our problem with OIL in 2003 or Desert Storm in 1991 or Operation Ajax in 1953.

That was then, this is now.
Times have changed. Not our problem....

Are you planning to visit Boston or New York anytime in the future?

Why do you ask?
No intention of visiting the home of liberalism anytime soon.

 

[MJB12741]

Problem is Egypt refuses to grant any right of return to their Palestinians. Same for all the other Arab countries surrounding Israel.
Golly gee why is that? Boy, that's a tough question, huh?

Good point. It's about time those Zionists see for themselves the "concentration camp" in Gaza they put the Palestinians into. As for me, I can never forgive Israel for placating the Palestians in their demand for a Jew free Gaza. Can you?

Naked Philadelphian: Gaza: Pictures From A Mediterranean Paradise

"Gaza is about 5,000 years old and one of the world's oldest cities. In that time it has been both a thriving port and, as it is today, a sprawling mess of refugee camps and poverty.

"According to the United Nations, 1.5 million people call it home, making Gaza one of the most densely populated areas on the planet.

"Of the 1.5 million inhabitants, 1.1 million are refugees; those who lived in what is now Israel before 1948 refuse to give up the belief that one day they'll return to their former homes.

"The UN predicts that by 2020, the population will be more than 2 million, and that GDP per capita of about $2,700 by 2015 is less than what people were earning in 1990. Hospitals need an extra 800 beds now and, by 2020, an additional 1,000 doctors and 2,000 nurses.

"But why is life in Gaza so difficult? It is not hard to imagine the place as a thriving Mediterranean resort: the white beaches are gorgeous and the seafood – such as the tuna served to us on the beach by the fisherman Rachad al-Hisi – is peerless.

"The obvious – if incomplete – answer is... Israel, ..."

Tales from Gaza: What is life really like in 'the world's largest outdoor prison'? - Middle East - World - The Independent

Hong Kong is just as densely populated if not more, and yet the population seems to be getting on. I wonder if you could show us picturers of all these refugee camps. In fact, if over a million people live in refugee camps, this should be an easy task for you to do. Meanwhile, I guess that Egyptian leader not too long back knew what he was talking about when he said for the Gazans to come home to Egypt. I am willing to bet that you will find an awful lot of the surnames in Gaza being the same as the surnames in Egypt.

 

[Desperado]

Problem is Egypt refuses to grant any right of return to their Palestinians. Same for all the other Arab countries surrounding Israel.

Again I ask: Why is this any concern of the United States?

 

[MJB12741]

Excellent question. Thanks for asking. Israel's contributions to the USA are many indeed.

How the U.S. Gains from Israel Alliance - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Problem is Egypt refuses to grant any right of return to their Palestinians. Same for all the other Arab countries surrounding Israel.

Again I ask: Why is this any concern of the United States?

 

[Desperado]

Excellent question. Thanks for asking. Israel's contributions to the USA are many indeed.

How the U.S. Gains from Israel Alliance - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Problem is Egypt refuses to grant any right of return to their Palestinians. Same for all the other Arab countries surrounding Israel.

Again I ask: Why is this any concern of the United States?

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy - Might be more believable if it was not so Biased toward Israel.
However, I asked how the Syrian Crises Spreading Into Lebanon effects the United States, I do not believe I mentioned Israel at all in my posts.

 

[aris2chat]

Lebanese Air Force fired on a Syrian helicopter that entered Lebanese air space.

 

[Sally]

"The Iraqi 'Comprehensive Plan to End Displacement', developed with UNHCR's support, incorporates key humanitarian elements tailored to improve access to basic services, livelihoods and employment in areas of return.

"It also includes shelter programmes for areas of displacement.

"Due to the unrest in the Syrian Arab Republic (Syria), Iraqi refugees in that country are increasingly opting to return home in large numbers, with some 32,000 arriving in July and August 2012 alone.

"This movement is in addition to the flight of thousands of Syrian nationals escaping the violence, who are either being accommodated by host communities or residing in camps.

"Another challenge facing the Iraqi Government and the international community is to provide humanitarian assistance and sustainable solutions for some 1.2 million Iraqi internally displaced persons (IDPs), in addition to offering protection and emergency support to tens of thousands of refugees in the country."

Which country do you blame for the millions of Iraqi refugees, Syria or Lebanon?

UNHCR - Iraq

I giess Mr. George has never visited any casinos in his area so forget about the job for Mr. George of showing the Gazans how to become another Monte Carlo. Actually, Mr. George, even though I know you hate this country but wouldn't dream of leaving your little apartment for a place where you would feel more comfortable (like Cuba perhaps), I blame the outside insurgents which poured into Iraq because they couldn't stand the thought of a democracy there. Democracy appears to be incompatible with Islam. As for Syria, it was between Assad and the FSA. Again the outside insurgents came pouring in instead of letting the two Syrian entities fight it out amongst themselves. As for Lebanon, couldn't the Palestinians have behaved themselves in Lebanon? Did they really have to start in on the Maronite Christians. However, you just continue on with your Cut and Pastes over and over. No one wants to see your crown slip from being the King of Cut and Pastes. I bet you that if Mr. George could find a way, he would even try to blame the U.S. and Israel for Black September when the previous King of Jordan, with the help of the Pakistani Army, killed thousands and thousands of Palestinians.

Insurgents poured into Iraq to defend it against an illegal invasion by the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet, exactly as the war whore$ privately predicted; obviously democracy isn't compatible with capitalism

Likewise the greatest purveyor of violence in the world was stoking the for-profit killing in Syria:

"In June 2012, the Central Intelligence Agency was reported to be involved in covert operations along the Turkish-Syrian border, where agents investigated rebel groups, recommending arms providers which groups to give aid to.

"Agents also helped opposition forces develop supply routes, and provided them with communications training.[20]

"CIA operatives distributed assault rifles, anti-tank rocket launchers and other ammunition to Syrian opposition.

"The State Department has reportedly allocated $15 million for civilian opposition groups in Syria.[21]

"In July 2012, the United States government granted a non-governmental organization called Syrian Support Group a license to fund the Free Syrian Army.[22]

"In early March 2013, a Jordanian security source revealed that the United States, Britain, and France were training non-Islamist rebels in Jordan.[23]

"In April 2013, also in Jordan, the United States had set up a $70 million program in the country 'that is training the kingdom’s special forces to identify and secure chemical-weapons sites across Syria should the regime fall and the wrong rebels look like getting their hands on them.'[24]

"In April 2013, the Obama administration promised to double non-lethal aid to rebels, specifically to $250 million..."

"An argument exists that the Obama administration is not interested in a quick victory in Syria, instead it wants a protracted conflict to drain Iranian and Hezbollah resources."

Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, Has(ally)bara, the greatest purveyor of violence in the world is prolonging Syria's misery to bleed Iran and Hezbolla; aren't you happy?

Aren't you happy that you can pass the time of day on the Internet being the King of Cut and Pastes that you get from your favorite sites? What else would you do with your time? I think the readers realize by now that you hate the U.S., and I wish you would pick yourself up and go somewhere else and let someone from another foreign country take your place. So many people are eager to be citizens of the country that Mr. George hates and wants to keep blaming things on. Say, maybe Mr. George, since he seems worried about Iran and Hezbollah can park himself permanently in Iran, and an Iranian who desires to leave can take his place here.

 

[MJB12741]

With all well due respect Sally, I wish we had more like George here to show everyone how Israel's enemies are also the enemies of the USA.

I giess Mr. George has never visited any casinos in his area so forget about the job for Mr. George of showing the Gazans how to become another Monte Carlo. Actually, Mr. George, even though I know you hate this country but wouldn't dream of leaving your little apartment for a place where you would feel more comfortable (like Cuba perhaps), I blame the outside insurgents which poured into Iraq because they couldn't stand the thought of a democracy there. Democracy appears to be incompatible with Islam. As for Syria, it was between Assad and the FSA. Again the outside insurgents came pouring in instead of letting the two Syrian entities fight it out amongst themselves. As for Lebanon, couldn't the Palestinians have behaved themselves in Lebanon? Did they really have to start in on the Maronite Christians. However, you just continue on with your Cut and Pastes over and over. No one wants to see your crown slip from being the King of Cut and Pastes. I bet you that if Mr. George could find a way, he would even try to blame the U.S. and Israel for Black September when the previous King of Jordan, with the help of the Pakistani Army, killed thousands and thousands of Palestinians.

Insurgents poured into Iraq to defend it against an illegal invasion by the greatest purveyor of violence on the planet, exactly as the war whore$ privately predicted; obviously democracy isn't compatible with capitalism

Likewise the greatest purveyor of violence in the world was stoking the for-profit killing in Syria:

"In June 2012, the Central Intelligence Agency was reported to be involved in covert operations along the Turkish-Syrian border, where agents investigated rebel groups, recommending arms providers which groups to give aid to.

"Agents also helped opposition forces develop supply routes, and provided them with communications training.[20]

"CIA operatives distributed assault rifles, anti-tank rocket launchers and other ammunition to Syrian opposition.

"The State Department has reportedly allocated $15 million for civilian opposition groups in Syria.[21]

"In July 2012, the United States government granted a non-governmental organization called Syrian Support Group a license to fund the Free Syrian Army.[22]

"In early March 2013, a Jordanian security source revealed that the United States, Britain, and France were training non-Islamist rebels in Jordan.[23]

"In April 2013, also in Jordan, the United States had set up a $70 million program in the country 'that is training the kingdom’s special forces to identify and secure chemical-weapons sites across Syria should the regime fall and the wrong rebels look like getting their hands on them.'[24]

"In April 2013, the Obama administration promised to double non-lethal aid to rebels, specifically to $250 million..."

"An argument exists that the Obama administration is not interested in a quick victory in Syria, instead it wants a protracted conflict to drain Iranian and Hezbollah resources."

Foreign involvement in the Syrian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, Has(ally)bara, the greatest purveyor of violence in the world is prolonging Syria's misery to bleed Iran and Hezbolla; aren't you happy?

Aren't you happy that you can pass the time of day on the Internet being the King of Cut and Pastes that you get from your favorite sites? What else would you do with your time? I think the readers realize by now that you hate the U.S., and I wish you would pick yourself up and go somewhere else and let someone from another foreign country take your place. So many people are eager to be citizens of the country that Mr. George hates and wants to keep blaming things on. Say, maybe Mr. George, since he seems worried about Iran and Hezbollah can park himself permanently in Iran, and an Iranian who desires to leave can take his place here.

 

[irosie91]

leave george alone----he is enjoying his fantasies

 

[Sally]

leave george alone----he is enjoying his fantasies

I really would be curious why Mr. George hates this country so much as well as the Jews. One would think that the Jews in the Los Angeles area ganged up on him, preventing him from having a decent life. If Mr. George really cared about the Arabs and since he is posting on a Middle East forum, he would certainly be posting some news from several Middle East countries telling us what is happening to innocent Arabs living there. I guess unless he can blame something on the U.S. or the Jews, he doesn't concern himself with what is happening to innocent people.

 

[georgephillip]

That was then, this is now.
Times have changed. Not our problem....

Are you planning to visit Boston or New York anytime in the future?

Why do you ask?
No intention of visiting the home of liberalism anytime soon.

Boston Marathon bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.911memorial.org/

On the same day as the Boston Marathon bombing, a series of explosions ripped through Iraq killing dozens of potential voters around polling stations, as I recall.

What if that is our future?

 

[georgephillip]

Problem is Egypt refuses to grant any right of return to their Palestinians. Same for all the other Arab countries surrounding Israel.
Golly gee why is that? Boy, that's a tough question, huh?

"Gaza is about 5,000 years old and one of the world's oldest cities. In that time it has been both a thriving port and, as it is today, a sprawling mess of refugee camps and poverty.

"According to the United Nations, 1.5 million people call it home, making Gaza one of the most densely populated areas on the planet.

"Of the 1.5 million inhabitants, 1.1 million are refugees; those who lived in what is now Israel before 1948 refuse to give up the belief that one day they'll return to their former homes.

"The UN predicts that by 2020, the population will be more than 2 million, and that GDP per capita of about $2,700 by 2015 is less than what people were earning in 1990. Hospitals need an extra 800 beds now and, by 2020, an additional 1,000 doctors and 2,000 nurses.

"But why is life in Gaza so difficult? It is not hard to imagine the place as a thriving Mediterranean resort: the white beaches are gorgeous and the seafood – such as the tuna served to us on the beach by the fisherman Rachad al-Hisi – is peerless.

"The obvious – if incomplete – answer is... Israel, ..."

Tales from Gaza: What is life really like in 'the world's largest outdoor prison'? - Middle East - World - The Independent

Hong Kong is just as densely populated if not more, and yet the population seems to be getting on. I wonder if you could show us picturers of all these refugee camps. In fact, if over a million people live in refugee camps, this should be an easy task for you to do. Meanwhile, I guess that Egyptian leader not too long back knew what he was talking about when he said for the Gazans to come home to Egypt. I am willing to bet that you will find an awful lot of the surnames in Gaza being the same as the surnames in Egypt.

Neither Egypt nor any other Arab state evicted 700,000 Palestinians from their homes, businesses, and bank accounts in 1948.

Israel did.

Remember?

 

[georgephillip]

Excellent question. Thanks for asking. Israel's contributions to the USA are many indeed.

How the U.S. Gains from Israel Alliance - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

Again I ask: Why is this any concern of the United States?

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy - Might be more believable if it was not so Biased toward Israel.
However, I asked how the Syrian Crises Spreading Into Lebanon effects the United States, I do not believe I mentioned Israel at all in my posts.

In 2003 Wesley Clark published a book in which he revealed a conversations he had in the Pentagon two months after 911. Clark was speaking to an officer who had mentioned a memo that came from Rumsfeld's office days after the NY terror attacks which said Iraq was slated for invasion. Their November conversation confirmed Saddam's fate and also stipulated there were six other Muslim countries slated for regime change: Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.

Wesley Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apparently, the goal is to redraw the hundred year-old borders of the Middle East by fracturing Iraq and Syria and creating a new state: Free Kurdistan, garrisoned by NATO troops, protected on the north by Turkey and in the South by Israel. Syrian real estate is required to provide pipeline routes from the Caspian sea oil fields to a port on the eastern Mediterranean.

If you scroll down a few pages in the following link, you'll find one possible map of this New Middle East that the US and Israel are seeking to impose on those living there.

Plans for Redrawing the Middle East: The Project for a ?New Middle East? | Global Research

 

[georgephillip]

Lebanese Air Force fired on a Syrian helicopter that entered Lebanese air space.

"The anti-aircraft fire came a day after Lebanese President Michel Sleiman announced that Saudi Arabia had pledged $3 billion for the under-equipped army to buy French weapons.

"Saudi Arabia is a key supporter of the Syrian uprising.

"Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah militia, which controls much of the border region apart from the mainly Sunni Arsal district, is a leading ally of the Syrian regime."

Lebanon army fires on Syria aircraft for 'first time'

 

[aris2chat]

Are you planning to visit Boston or New York anytime in the future?

Why do you ask?
No intention of visiting the home of liberalism anytime soon.

Boston Marathon bombings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.911memorial.org/

On the same day as the Boston Marathon bombing, a series of explosions ripped through Iraq killing dozens of potential voters around polling stations, as I recall.

What if that is our future?

Support radicals and terrorists could well make the democratic process a danger. Terror will keep people locked in their homes.
Fear is our worst enemy. We let terrorists win when we change our lives to accommodate them.
Being careful and concerned about security but get on with life.
Israel lives with the threat of terror everyday. They take security seriously but special event and normal activities go on.
If you think we should or will have voting or other major events threatened by terrorist, get up and do something o speak against such groups.
Hamas is a terrorist group because of it's ties to the MB Egypt. Europeans engaged with groups that have hamas ties risk arrest.
Cut their pipeline and funding and these terror groups can't function.
Support open dialogue and peace talks. Support education that exposes extremism and fundimentalism. Support the disarmament of groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad.
Before Hamas used gaza to launch their own war on Israel there was no blockade. When Gaza is quiet the crossing are open both to Israel and to Egypt.
Peace will bring prosperity to the region. War and hostility hurts everyone.
Teach peace, plurality and tolerance to this generation and prepare the way for the next.