Target to stop asking job applicants about criminal record

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This is an ok idea as long as it stays at the state or employer level which is where the tenth amendment says it should be. The constitution makes it clear this is NOT a federal matter.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/target-bans-the-box/?_r=0

October 29, 2013,

Sanctions that make it more difficult for ex-offenders to obtain jobs, housing and even basic documents like drivers’ licenses only serve to drive them back to jail. With that in mind, a growing number of states and municipalities now prohibit public agencies — and in some cases private employers — from asking about a job applicant’s criminal history until the applicant reaches the interview stage or gets a conditional job offer. These eminently sensible “ban the box” laws are intended to let ex-offenders prove their qualifications before criminal history issues enter the equation.

Earlier this year Minnesota extended its existing law to cover private employers. Now, the Minneapolis-based Target Corporation, one of the nation’s largest employers, has announced that it will remove questions about criminal history from its job applications throughout the country. The announcement represents an important victory for the grassroots community group TakeAction Minnesota, which had been pressuring the company to change.
 
Do your time, keep your nose clean and the criminal record should be sealed or expunged. These people need to work to stay out of trouble.
 
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Do your time, keep your nose clean and the criminal record should be sealed or expunged. These people need to work to stay out of trouble.

When you can't get a job or welfare, crime is about your only option.
 
Only misdemeanors can be expunged. Expungement is very low cost, in some cases free. Felonies cannot be expunged. Felonies can only be overcome by a governor's pardon. The reason why so many people cannot get a pardon is because they are recidivists. They are in an out of prison like it had a revolving door.

Of course criminals can get a job. They just can't get any kind of job they want. They can't get a job that would give them an opportunity to reoffend. A bank robber may want to be a bank teller, he or she just can't. For the seriously criminal, there are entire companies that employ no one but criminals. Particularly those criminals that have taken it upon themselves to use the opportunity of prison job training.
 
No company should be asking about criminal history. Just refer the application to a bonding company who will do a background check and eliminate them that way. I never asked about criminal history. I asked "Are you bondable". That did the trick.
 
They hire criminals because they can't get people in the door to work for them.
This is not some caring sharing decision, it's business.
 
Do your time, keep your nose clean and the criminal record should be sealed or expunged. These people need to work to stay out of trouble.

Then you hire them.

Personally I would never hire a criminal.

Really, some kid at 18 did something stupid and now has a record... you wouldnt give him a second chance? I teach (volunteer) Basic Computer Skills at a prison...because I feel it would help them when they get out. I have met boys and men who just messed up once. They arent all bad. Some really want to do better when they are out.

I am sure we have all done something in our past that we could have been arrested for. The only difference is... they got caught.
 
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I am sure we have all done something in our past that we could have been arrested for. The only difference is... they got caught.

Of course. We're all criminals - some get caught and some don't.
 
Do your time, keep your nose clean and the criminal record should be sealed or expunged. These people need to work to stay out of trouble.

Then you hire them.

Personally I would never hire a criminal.

Really, some kid at 18 did something stupid and now has a record... you wouldnt give him a second chance?

No. Why should I? I grew up piss poor on my own before I was 18 and I never once stole from anyone, never once hurt anyone.

I'll do whatever I can for a kid that doesn't break the law but once someone chooses to do that I want nothing to do with them.

I teach (volunteer) Basic Computer Skills at a prison...because I feel it would help them when they get out. I have met boys and men who just messed up once. They arent all bad. Some really want to do better when they are out.

I am sure we have all done something in our past that we could have been arrested for. The only difference is... they got caught.

Sorry you're wrong on that one unless me lying about my age when I was 15 so I could get a job is an arrestable offense.
 
It all depends. You wouldn't hire an embezzler to be your cashier, or a child molester to work at your pre-school. But you might hire a child molester to be your cashier, or an embezzler to work at a pre-school.

You might indeed hire a shoplifter to work store security! Banks routinely hire safecrackers to test security devices. Master forgers become questioned document experts.

In the main, do not hire a criminal UNLESS you don't mind being the victim of a crime.
 
This is an ok idea as long as it stays at the state or employer level which is where the tenth amendment says it should be. The constitution makes it clear this is NOT a federal matter.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/target-bans-the-box/?_r=0

October 29, 2013,

Sanctions that make it more difficult for ex-offenders to obtain jobs, housing and even basic documents like drivers’ licenses only serve to drive them back to jail. With that in mind, a growing number of states and municipalities now prohibit public agencies — and in some cases private employers — from asking about a job applicant’s criminal history until the applicant reaches the interview stage or gets a conditional job offer. These eminently sensible “ban the box” laws are intended to let ex-offenders prove their qualifications before criminal history issues enter the equation.

Earlier this year Minnesota extended its existing law to cover private employers. Now, the Minneapolis-based Target Corporation, one of the nation’s largest employers, has announced that it will remove questions about criminal history from its job applications throughout the country. The announcement represents an important victory for the grassroots community group TakeAction Minnesota, which had been pressuring the company to change.

The 10th Amendment was roundly shat upon when the Feds started butting into the jurisdiction of state's when they were unhappy with verdicts of racial crimes in the 60's. They didn't like the fact that some scumbags were acquitted by scumbag juries, but rather than keep the constitution intact and try to change the attitudes of people through persuasion, they invented "Civil Rights" and started illegally prosecuting people through the Federal system.

Fuck the Constitution in the name of "justice", and no one sees the irony.
 
Good! It should be done away with. I plead guilty to something 7 years ago state dropped everything once I paid a fine,probation etc record is clean from that arrest etc but not from federal government. I tried purchasing a rifle few years ago and I couldn't thanks to zog. Course the only gun law I respect or even acknowledge is the 2nd amendment it was just a pain in the ass, and of course the part of the ATF that deals with that crap where you can get your record cleaned off is no longer funded. So yea its pretty stupid. For the BS I went through should have just killed the SOB I got into it with.
 
This is an ok idea as long as it stays at the state or employer level which is where the tenth amendment says it should be. The constitution makes it clear this is NOT a federal matter.

http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/29/target-bans-the-box/?_r=0

October 29, 2013,

Sanctions that make it more difficult for ex-offenders to obtain jobs, housing and even basic documents like drivers’ licenses only serve to drive them back to jail. With that in mind, a growing number of states and municipalities now prohibit public agencies — and in some cases private employers — from asking about a job applicant’s criminal history until the applicant reaches the interview stage or gets a conditional job offer. These eminently sensible “ban the box” laws are intended to let ex-offenders prove their qualifications before criminal history issues enter the equation.

Earlier this year Minnesota extended its existing law to cover private employers. Now, the Minneapolis-based Target Corporation, one of the nation’s largest employers, has announced that it will remove questions about criminal history from its job applications throughout the country. The announcement represents an important victory for the grassroots community group TakeAction Minnesota, which had been pressuring the company to change.

They are opening themselves to lawsuits because if they hire a child molester and this person gets a job and does something to a child the lawyers will be swarming due to they have a toy department
 

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