Tax the Rich: Fix Jobs and Deficits

[georgephillip]

Since DC Democrats and Republicans are tone deaf to anything that doesn't ring of corporate cash, it falls on workers to demand a massive public works program which can be funded by taxing corporations and the richest Americans at pre-Reagan levels.

"And it makes complete sense because the growing inequalities in wealth over the past three decades has meant a spectacular concentration of wealth at the top.

"The rich have plenty of money to spare."

Spare me the brain-dead conservative vomit about how hard the rich have "worked" for all their money.

The rich have the money because Republicans AND Democrats threw money at Wall Street banks and hedge funds instead of prosecuting the executives responsible for the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression.

The rich have the money because their chief enabler, The Federal Reserve, has fueled a major commodity bubble "that may be in the midst of bursting, possibly triggering a double dip recession."

Throw in high unemployment which allows the rich to work remaining employees harder and thus increase profits and combine it with commodity speculation and you have the entire basis for a corporate recovery which both major parties tout as "proof" of economic "recovery."

It's another lie the rich tell.

When the Fed stops purchasing 60% of US Treasury bonds, a new creditor will have to step up. One that will probably demand significantly higher interest rates before loaning anymore money to the US Government.

Surprise, surprise - the rich win again!

They got all that free bail-out money which increased the deficit.
None of them went to prison for their crimes.
Their bottom lines are being enhanced by commodity speculation and high unemployment.
And now the rich want higher interest rates for investing in US Treasury Bonds.

"In (all) instances working people pay the bills."

The Rich Are Destroying the Economy | Common Dreams

The so-called tax on the rich would raise 100 billion per year, we have a 14 TILLION dollar deficit, that amounts to one drop of water in the Pacific ocean. BTW anytime you raise taxes on any group of people you REDUCE revenues to the government, Want to know why, these so-called rich are usually investors, business owners or invest in business. Business in the private sector employs people, you and me, when the top dog is taxed more than what they are paying now, they cut back on investments in business, the business then lays you off. What a deal!!!! Econ 101

Fred Thompson," When Democrats start talking about taxing the rich, the middle class needs to run for cover."

How do you and "Rich Fred" explain the correlation between higher taxes on the rich and greater growth in the economy?

"During almost three decades spanning 1951 to 1980, when the top rate was between 70 percent and 91 percent, average annual growth in the American economy was 3.7 percent.

"Between 1983 and the start of the Great Recession, when the top rate dropped to between 35 percent and 39 percent, average growth was 3 percent.

"How to explain this? Easy.

"Since the early 1980s, a larger and larger share of total income has gone to the top (the richest 1 percent of Americans got 10 percent of total income in 1980, and get over 20 percent now).

"That’s left the vast middle class with insufficient purchasing power to boost the economy – without going deep into debt.

Lower tax rates on the rich — including lower capital gains rates — have exacerbated this regressive trend."

Robert Reich

 

[thereisnospoon]

Since 1985 real wages in the US have stagnated despite a 55% increase in productivity. The top 1% of US earners earned about 9 percent of total income in the late 70s and they "earn" over 20% today.

Unless you're among the richest 1% your share of increasing American productivity has been stolen.

Apparently, your political ideology blinds you to that theft.

That's the only silly fucking mystery I see.

Where did you get the idea that there is a "share"?...
A share indicates the existence of a collective. We have no such thing here
Why do you care so much about what others are doing and so little about what you are doing?

Is Wall Street a "collective"?

No it's a short east west thoroughfare in lower Manhattan. Runs between Broadway and Pearl St.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Got new for ya.

You could take every dime every rich person in this country has and it wouldn't make a dent in whats owed.

Revenue isn't the problem. Spending is. Until the Clowns in DC stop spending like a bunch of drunken sailors this is what we will have.

Idots controlling the pursestrings.

That's the issue the libs refuse to acknowledge. Spending. They won't touch it.
Libs view themselves as less fortunate. They are in their minds, victims of those who they see as having "won the lottery of life". To get even with the "lucky" they look to government to create sanctions that punish their "oppressors.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I'm saying that you are probably one of the least qualified people to decide who deserves what. Every time a group of people try to "equalize" everyone economically they end up screwing everyone else over, and enriching themselves.

Your envy and greed are obvious to anyone who isnt a fellow money grabber such as yourself.

Unless you are among the rich you are among the brainwashed Tories who serve their interests like a trained dog. You've been conditioned to believe the ambition to restore economic balance is an intention to "equalize" the Nation's wealth resources, as in communism, when in fact there is no such intention, nor has any such idea been suggested.

Equitably taxing the rich does not mean impoverishing them. It simply means to tax them in proportion with the level of the lower income brackets. If the progressive tax rate that existed during the most economically successful decades in our history, the late 40s through the 70s, were restored the rich would still be rich, as they were then, they simply wouldn't be as rich.

Your problem is you see greed on the wrong side of this class war.

What's your point? That wealthy people have too much and you feel the need to take more of it?
Why is it you Lefties will not address the hyperspending by government? What is it you have against fiscal responsibility?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Since DC Democrats and Republicans are tone deaf to anything that doesn't ring of corporate cash, it falls on workers to demand a massive public works program which can be funded by taxing corporations and the richest Americans at pre-Reagan levels.

"And it makes complete sense because the growing inequalities in wealth over the past three decades has meant a spectacular concentration of wealth at the top.

"The rich have plenty of money to spare."

Spare me the brain-dead conservative vomit about how hard the rich have "worked" for all their money.

The rich have the money because Republicans AND Democrats threw money at Wall Street banks and hedge funds instead of prosecuting the executives responsible for the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression.

The rich have the money because their chief enabler, The Federal Reserve, has fueled a major commodity bubble "that may be in the midst of bursting, possibly triggering a double dip recession."

Throw in high unemployment which allows the rich to work remaining employees harder and thus increase profits and combine it with commodity speculation and you have the entire basis for a corporate recovery which both major parties tout as "proof" of economic "recovery."

It's another lie the rich tell.

When the Fed stops purchasing 60% of US Treasury bonds, a new creditor will have to step up. One that will probably demand significantly higher interest rates before loaning anymore money to the US Government.

Surprise, surprise - the rich win again!

They got all that free bail-out money which increased the deficit.
None of them went to prison for their crimes.
Their bottom lines are being enhanced by commodity speculation and high unemployment.
And now the rich want higher interest rates for investing in US Treasury Bonds.

"In (all) instances working people pay the bills."

The Rich Are Destroying the Economy | Common Dreams

The so-called tax on the rich would raise 100 billion per year, we have a 14 TILLION dollar deficit, that amounts to one drop of water in the Pacific ocean. BTW anytime you raise taxes on any group of people you REDUCE revenues to the government, Want to know why, these so-called rich are usually investors, business owners or invest in business. Business in the private sector employs people, you and me, when the top dog is taxed more than what they are paying now, they cut back on investments in business, the business then lays you off. What a deal!!!! Econ 101

Fred Thompson," When Democrats start talking about taxing the rich, the middle class needs to run for cover."

How do you and "Rich Fred" explain the correlation between higher taxes on the rich and greater growth in the economy?

"During almost three decades spanning 1951 to 1980, when the top rate was between 70 percent and 91 percent, average annual growth in the American economy was 3.7 percent.

"Between 1983 and the start of the Great Recession, when the top rate dropped to between 35 percent and 39 percent, average growth was 3 percent.

"How to explain this? Easy.

"Since the early 1980s, a larger and larger share of total income has gone to the top (the richest 1 percent of Americans got 10 percent of total income in 1980, and get over 20 percent now).

"That’s left the vast middle class with insufficient purchasing power to boost the economy – without going deep into debt.

Lower tax rates on the rich — including lower capital gains rates — have exacerbated this regressive trend."

Robert Reich

There is no correlation between the two and Robert Reiccccccccccccccccccccccchhhhaaaaaaaaaa is a left wing hack.
Government spends too much .....That is why the economy sucks sideways.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It isn't just 10,000 "earners" paying taxes at less than a 20% rate that's contributing to a revenue deficit there's also a corporate component to tax evasion that's even greater.

"The 10,000 paid just $112Bn in taxes last year – that’s just over 20% of their income, while the rest of the country, of course, paid a much higher percentage of their income to make up for the shortfall.

You're using Phil as a source? That's funny!
I looked over his article and didn't see the source for his claim about the top 10,000.
Do you know where he got that number?

"Warren Buffett, the third richest man in the world (behind Gates and Slim) paid 17.7% tax and made a point of checking and found out his employees paid an average of 32.9%.

"God bless Buffett becuase he made this point in a speech that was given to 400 of the 10,000, who were gathered at a Hillary Clinton fund raiser in 2007. It got a little attention at the time but then was swept under the rug – as if that didn’t matter.

"But it DOES MATTER and it matters a lot – the life of this country depends on it!

Warren lies!

"Mr Buffett said that he was taxed at 17.7 per cent on the $46 million he made last year, without trying to avoid paying higher taxes, while his secretary, who earned $60,000, was taxed at 30 per cent"

Bullshit!!!

In 2006, here were the rates.

$0-$7550 10% $755

$7550-$30650 15% +$755

$30650-$74220 25% +$4220

If his secretary took the standard deduction and exemption, $5150 and $3300,
her taxes would be $9445 on AGI of $51550. 18% of AGI or 15.7% of gross income.

"If this were just a case of 10,000 people not paying $100Bn in taxes, maybe we could move on and forget it but it’s not. US corporations, who are (according to to the Supreme Court) also citizens of this country, paid just $300Bn in taxes last year on $6 TRILLION in income (5%).

"That’s right, if US corporations simply paid the same amount of tax as Mr. Buffett – that would, by itself, be enough to wipe out our deficit. But, things have gone decidedly the other way in the past 30 years:

OMG! Is Phil an idiot or what?

From last November.....

The New York Times

The nation’s workers may be struggling, but American companies just had their best quarter ever.

American businesses earned profits at an annual rate of $1.659 trillion in the third quarter, according to a Commerce Department report released Tuesday. That is the highest figure recorded since the government began keeping track over 60 years ago, at least in nominal or noninflation-adjusted terms.

U.S. Corporate Profits Hit Record in Third Quarter - NYTimes.com

Now, in case you're slow, like Phil, $1.659 trillion, at an annual rate, means $1.659 trillion for an entire year. Not $1.659 trillion times 4 quarters.

So let's say they paid $300 billion on $1.659 trillion, that would be over 18%, not 5%.
Damn, if I was paying Phil for his stock market tips, I'd be asking for a refund right about now. LOL!

 

[Susan45]

10% of the top "earners" have managed to acquire 90% of the Nation's wealth resources since Reaganomics was foisted on us.

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

Michael Moore Thinks Wealthy People's Money Is A 'Natural Resource' And Should Be Shared

 

[thereisnospoon]

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

His statement was figurative. You friggin libs are a miracle.
The Left has declared war on the following....Suburbs. Libs despise the idea of people being able to leave the high taxes of cities. It is the Left that invented involuntary annexation, smart growth and open space laws.
Libs like to steal road money from state coffers and spend it on costly and inefficient mass transit schemes. Such as the light rail system in Charlotte ,NC...At $100 million per mile, this costs 50 times the price of one mile of three lane freeway.In Portland OR the smart growth people go their way and essentially closed off huger areas close in to the center city for housing. The result was not what they intended which was to keep people from moving out and just outside city limits. Thus avoiding the high taxes and lousy schools.
No, the price of housing skyrocketed to the point ( here it comes,,the laws of unintended consequences) where only those with 6 figure incomes could afford Portland...The regular people were forced farther away into regional suburbs. The Smart growth libs were aghast that people would actually reject their idea of urban apartment dwelling life.
These are just a few examples of how libs are at war with not only with wealth but at war with the freedom to make choices for one's self.

 

[Susan45]

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

Michael Moore Thinks Wealthy People's Money Is A 'Natural Resource' And Should Be Shared

And you think this? "Shorter version: He wants higher taxes on the rich." = "an end to personal property?" That's ridiculous. But I do give you props for recognizing that Moore is a liberal. A rich liberal.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

Michael Moore Thinks Wealthy People's Money Is A 'Natural Resource' And Should Be Shared

Why the fuck is anyone bothering to interview Moore. He's a wealthy former movie producer who has a palatial estate on Lake Michigan. He also has or had many investments in companies he regularly used to rake over the coals.
This guy is an idiot.
How he makes the case for "that person's money is OUR money is a fucking miracle.
Michael Moore has no credibility. He is a typical limouzine liberal. "Do as I say, not as I do"....How many more cholesterol bombs from his daily fast food pig out is it going to tale before this morbidly obese more chins than a Chinese phone book to have a heart attack?
Why is Michael Moore not simply writing checks to the federal government to help with the cause.

 

[Susan45]

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

His statement was figurative. You friggin libs are a miracle.
The Left has declared war on the following....Suburbs. Libs despise the idea of people being able to leave the high taxes of cities. It is the Left that invented involuntary annexation, smart growth and open space laws.
Libs like to steal road money from state coffers and spend it on costly and inefficient mass transit schemes. Such as the light rail system in Charlotte ,NC...At $100 million per mile, this costs 50 times the price of one mile of three lane freeway.In Portland OR the smart growth people go their way and essentially closed off huger areas close in to the center city for housing. The result was not what they intended which was to keep people from moving out and just outside city limits. Thus avoiding the high taxes and lousy schools.
No, the price of housing skyrocketed to the point ( here it comes,,the laws of unintended consequences) where only those with 6 figure incomes could afford Portland...The regular people were forced farther away into regional suburbs. The Smart growth libs were aghast that people would actually reject their idea of urban apartment dwelling life.
These are just a few examples of how libs are at war with not only with wealth but at war with the freedom to make choices for one's self.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd be able to name anyone that said that. Instead you post a diatribe with a bunch of statements right out of your head. Without any backup facts, you just spew. Why in the world should I believe what you just posted? I am a liberal and nothing you have posted relates to me. Without backup facts you might just as well post, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly, you just sound like a jr. college, introductory poli sci, discussion group member.

 

[MikeK]

The top 10% of earners currently pay 70% of all income tax collected.

How much more should they pay, to make things equitable?

10% of the top "earners" have managed to acquire 90% of the Nation's wealth resources since Reaganomics was foisted on us.

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

The citizens do have wealth.

But wealth which is generated within the United States while utilizing the resources of the United States is considered Internal Revenue, which is a wealth resource and is subject to the laws of the United States. Those who doubt this are free to argue the point with the IRS -- as did one Irwin Schiff, et. al.

Those corporatists and other super-rich entities and individuals who are busily stashing vast amounts of American wealth offshore are exploiting loopholes created for them by corrupt legislators. Those loopholes can and must be closed. The wealth created via the resources of this Nation represents the Nation's economic lifeblood and it is being drained by persons who would be categorical criminals, traitors as it were, had the laws and regulations governing their nefarious activites not been altered or eliminated by corrupt legislators.

The bottom line is wealth which is generated within the United States by utilizing the resources of the United States must not be removed from the United States and remains subject to the tax laws -- which may be applied as is fitting and necessary to accommodate the security of the Nation and the general welfare of the People.

 

[MikeK]

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

That wealth is a national resource is not a declaration. It is a fundamental economic principle. If all the wealth generated within the U.S. by exploiting this Nation's natural, human and administrative resources were removed from the U.S. to some foreign entity, how long do you suppose this Nation would survive?

If you believe Liberals authoritatively declared that wealth generated in the U.S. is a national resource, the fact is they simply informed you of that fact.

 

[Steelplate]

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

That wealth is a national resource is not a declaration. It is a fundamental economic principle. If all the wealth generated within the U.S. by exploiting this Nation's natural, human and administrative resources were removed from the U.S. to some foreign entity, how long do you suppose this Nation would survive?

If you believe Liberals authoritatively declared that wealth generated in the U.S. is a national resource, the fact is they simply informed you of that fact.

Well then, let's talk about another resource, EXTERNAL REVENUE. Why is it that China tariffs US Imports at 25% and we tariff Chinese imports at 2.5%? I get so sick of the right talking about a Free Market, when really... there is none... either here or abroad. Our trade deficit is ridiculous. There is no reciprocity and we lose a half a trillion dollars ever year.

 

[editec]

Taxes are a small part of the problem, folks.

We're not going to solve the economic mess by JUST taxing the wealthy more OR BY taxing them less, either.

IF (and I say IF because I don't think the leadership really gives a rat's ass) we truly want to fix our economy, we've got to put Americans to work.

International corporations have no financial incentive to put Americans to work.

Fix that problem and THEN American's fincal woes will slowly and steadily get better AS LONG AS WE CAN KEEP THE GOVERNMENT FROM SPENDING THE NEW REVENUE MONEY (New $ MADE FROM MORE AMERICANS WORKING AGAIN) FOOLISHLY.

Doing both those things is a mighty tall order.

It would requirte major rethinks in what the purpose of having a government even is.

And since so many people believe that the only point of government is protect private property, I'd say that this nation is going down.

 

[skookerasbil]

No revenue problems..............

 

[FA_Q2]

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

....

Did you forget that the liberals declared an end to personal property with the declaration that wealth is a NATIONAL RESOURCE!!

That wealth is a national resource is not a declaration. It is a fundamental economic principle. If all the wealth generated within the U.S. by exploiting this Nation's natural, human and administrative resources were removed from the U.S. to some foreign entity, how long do you suppose this Nation would survive?

If you believe Liberals authoritatively declared that wealth generated in the U.S. is a national resource, the fact is they simply informed you of that fact.

It is not just a straight declaration but in the entire way that liberals here post. Moore may have put it to a statement but the libs here seem to believe that wealth needs to be distributed by the government and that is an asinine concept. One that does not belong in a capitalist or free society. I have argued that the rich should pay a slightly hire share though that would be through the closing of tax loopholes and would likely cost them less in the long run as they would not need to spend money on evading the taxes in the first place. Many conservatives here have taken a similar stance in getting rid of ALL tax loopholes. That is not an attack on the rich but a common sense way of doing business as well as a great way to flush a lot of the corruption that is in Washington. Much of that corruption is bought through manipulation of the tax code.

Wealth is not a national resource. Wealth is the sum of your efforts and endeavors translated into a medium of exchange. Saying that wealth should be stolen from one person to be given to another is no different than stating that one person should be 'compelled' into servitude for another. Taxes are a necessity to pay for those things that we share. In order for a road to be built you need to pay taxes or we would all need to go out and build that road. That is not a case of stealing from one and giving to another. These wealth redistribution wishes on the left are another thing entirely.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Really? Liberals declared an end to personal property. Go ahead, name one.

His statement was figurative. You friggin libs are a miracle.
The Left has declared war on the following....Suburbs. Libs despise the idea of people being able to leave the high taxes of cities. It is the Left that invented involuntary annexation, smart growth and open space laws.
Libs like to steal road money from state coffers and spend it on costly and inefficient mass transit schemes. Such as the light rail system in Charlotte ,NC...At $100 million per mile, this costs 50 times the price of one mile of three lane freeway.In Portland OR the smart growth people go their way and essentially closed off huger areas close in to the center city for housing. The result was not what they intended which was to keep people from moving out and just outside city limits. Thus avoiding the high taxes and lousy schools.
No, the price of housing skyrocketed to the point ( here it comes,,the laws of unintended consequences) where only those with 6 figure incomes could afford Portland...The regular people were forced farther away into regional suburbs. The Smart growth libs were aghast that people would actually reject their idea of urban apartment dwelling life.
These are just a few examples of how libs are at war with not only with wealth but at war with the freedom to make choices for one's self.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd be able to name anyone that said that. Instead you post a diatribe with a bunch of statements right out of your head. Without any backup facts, you just spew. Why in the world should I believe what you just posted? I am a liberal and nothing you have posted relates to me. Without backup facts you might just as well post, blah, blah, blah.

Honestly, you just sound like a jr. college, introductory poli sci, discussion group member.

If you choose to dismiss the facts, so be it. There is no remedy for that.
Don't ever fucking challenge me on facts again, rookie.
Dr. Traffic: New light rail cost: $1.12 billion
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Annexation takes hit | Washington Daily News
First off asshole, this is a discussion forum. Next I did not speak I typed. Therefore I cannot "sound like".
Here is commentary by a writer who views suburbs as an enemy to inner cities.
Boston Review:

Now, you can read the information or ignore it. I don't give a shit.
You're a liberal because you cannot succeed without government doing your bidding for you. You belong to a group of selfish self centered self important people who look to government to be their keeper.

 

[thereisnospoon]

10% of the top "earners" have managed to acquire 90% of the Nation's wealth resources since Reaganomics was foisted on us.

The Nation's wealth?
I thought the citizens had wealth?
What is this Nation's wealth you're talking about?
Please explain in more detail.

The citizens do have wealth.

But wealth which is generated within the United States while utilizing the resources of the United States is considered Internal Revenue, which is a wealth resource and is subject to the laws of the United States. Those who doubt this are free to argue the point with the IRS -- as did one Irwin Schiff, et. al.

Those corporatists and other super-rich entities and individuals who are busily stashing vast amounts of American wealth offshore are exploiting loopholes created for them by corrupt legislators. Those loopholes can and must be closed. The wealth created via the resources of this Nation represents the Nation's economic lifeblood and it is being drained by persons who would be categorical criminals, traitors as it were, had the laws and regulations governing their nefarious activites not been altered or eliminated by corrupt legislators.

The bottom line is wealth which is generated within the United States by utilizing the resources of the United States must not be removed from the United States and remains subject to the tax laws -- which may be applied as is fitting and necessary to accommodate the security of the Nation and the general welfare of the People.

Ok..I've seen attempts at deflection of an issue but this takes the cake.
First you mention that in your opinion wealth is a national resource then you cover that with some nonsense about "internal revenue" followed by a reference to a tax evader.
What you suggest here is collectivism. In other words that what a business or an individual( I assume wealthy) generates in positive revenue belongs to the nation? or worse yet government first?
State you goal here and stop tap dancing around the subject. Just admit that you believe in collectivism. That all resources whether they be privately held wealth or privately held goods, really belong to the masses. And that government must be the ultimate authority on how and when these resources are to be distributed.
In the context of economy you libs use words like "expect" "deserve" and "desire". We use words such as "create" "Succeed" and "achieve".
No one is busily stashing anything. The federal government knows where every dime is.
With you people, first it's the government is owned or in bed with big companies. Government has allowed fat cats to hide their money or whatever the fuck. Then you people say that these same "fat cats" are hiding resources or wealth overseas..So if government is helping make rules favorable to companies so that they can do all the evil in the world, how is it that these same evil profit motive companies can "hide" anything from government. Better still , why would they want or need to?
Look genius, it's not your money. You didn't earn it, You have no claim to it. I don't give a damn what that fat fuck Micheal "12 sandwich eating bastard" Moore has to say.
Notice how his message says nothing about surrendering his own wealth.
At the end of the day you people of the Left's message is the same. "Raise taxes" Soak the rich because they stole from us", "raise taxes".....None of you has the courage to face the real issue and that is too much and out of control government spending.