Taxing the wealthy more will have little to no impact on your life or anyone around you

[Theowl32]

The only impact it ever has is on the stupid ass left wing voting base who falls for all of the tired democrat socialist robin hood fairy tale talking points.

We should know by now how useful their idiotic voting base is for the socialists.

 

[thereisnospoon]

What the fuck are you talking about?

It's a business expense paid for by my clients. I have enough frequent flyer miles to get an automatic upgrade almost every time I fly. That's how most people end up in business class. It's a reward for being a loyal customer.

You don't write off this travel?

You'd be unique. Most businesses that send people to travel on airplanes, write it off.


Taxes for business travelers: What is and isn't deductible

And by the way, along with the write off, they get those miles.

Double dip.

The get the write off because THEY front the money for the travel....
Its the same as Comp time in lieu of overtime.
The company trades the worker for additional time off at straight time, while the employee essentially fronts the overtime pay.
They get more paid time off in return. If my employer switched us to comp time, I'd love it. More paid free time? Are you kidding? That's a bonus!
Conversely, the employer and employee get to realize the savings from the additional taxation collected as overtime wages are taxed at a much higher rate. Everybody wins.

When you deduct the travel from taxes, that means less taxes are collected.

It's:

A. A subsidy to the company that is doing the deduction.
B. It's a subsidy to the travel industry.
C. It's a subsidy to the credit card industry.

Someone has to pay for that.

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

 

[SwimExpert]

See all the folks flying in first class on the plane?

Most of them are doing it on your dime.

Alright you stupid fuck, you really don't know what you are talking about, and now I'm going to school you...

What do you know about airline operations? What do you know about pricing strategies? Answer: You don't know shit. On the other hand, I know quite a damn bit. See, when it comes to rates and inventory management airlines operate in a nearly identical fashion as hotels. I happen to work in the hotel industry, and I know exactly what goes on in these scenarios and I can tell you that you are so far off the fucking mark it's downright shameful that you've even opened your mouth.

My credentials:
Eight years of extensive hotel experience with primary emphasis in rooms and operations; have traversed multiple properties among some of the top companies in the world, and internationally established brands; primary emphasis on full service Four Diamond properties, though also have participated in the select service markets as well; a documented history of progressive development while also taking on inter-divisional responsibility; inter-property departmental management; divisional supervisory experience; current position as Assistant General Manager with a medium sized hotel directly overseeing Front Office and Housekeeping departments while liaising with corporate revenue management.

A hotel's inventory is composed of room nights; a room night is one room for one night. If a person books one room over three nights, they are purchasing a total of three room nights. If a person books three rooms over two nights, they are purchasing six room nights.

A hotel's inventory is perishable. If a hotel has 10 rooms that go vacant on a given night, then the hotel has lost 10 room nights that it will never again have the opportunity to sell. The ultimate goal of the hotel is to sell out every single night. Of course, this is not likely to happen. So the next goal is to sell as many room nights as possible, and to sell each room night at the highest rate at which you can convince people to buy. The main challenge here is that different people will be willing to buy at different prices. This is where yield management comes into play. In determining the optimum rates at which to sell, a hotel must forecast market demand at specific times and attempt to capitalize on that demand for each room night.

Thus, rates for a given room night are always variant. If the rates for a given room night are set too high, fewer people will buy and it will become necessary for the hotel to lower rates to solicit additional customers in order to increase occupancy as the specified date approaches. If rates are too low, the hotel will leave revenue on the table. Successful yield management requires operations and revenue managers to employ accurate estimations on the likelihood that new reservations will continue to be made when rates are set at a certain point.

This is where room class comes in. John may be willing to pay $200 for a room night, but Bill may only be willing to pay $150 for the same room night. Meanwhile, Frank may be willing to pay $250 for a room on the same night, but only if he receives a higher level of product that than what John and Bill are looking for. Therefore, hotels offer a diversity of room types, some of which constitute higher and lower room classes. So John buys a $200 room night in a standard room, Frank buys a $250 room night in a suite. Bill doesn't buy a room night because he's not willing to pay the advertised rate. Eventually the hotel realizes that the chances of rooms going empty is increasing as the date of interest approaches, and they begin advertising lower rates. Bill eventually buys a room night at $175, because as time has elapsed he has become more willing to pay more instead of risking not finding anything at all and having to sleep in his car.

On the other hand, there are also times when there will not be enough market demand to fill room nights in room classes that are priced higher than standard rooms. This is where room class overbooking comes into play. If all standard rooms have been booked for a certain day, but there are still several upgraded rooms that are available, the hotel will typically play both sides of the fence by continuing to advertise both room categories as available, at their respective rates. There is still a chance that someone may be willing to buy the room night at the higher rate. But in case nobody is willing, the hotel will continue to offer room nights at the lower class rate as long as the overbooking can be balanced against whatever higher class rooms go unbought. The hotel will simply provide complimentary upgrades to a few lucky customers. Often times, the recipients of complimentary upgrades will be pre-selected based on multiple criteria, such as total duration of stay (it's easier to upgrade a one-nighter because tomorrow night the higher room class might be sold out already). But one of the key factors that is taken into account is their rate. The more money I'm making from you, the greater preference you receive when I hand out complimentary upgrades.

And that brings us to the issue of customer loyalty. Modern business practices have recognized that keeping customers is cheaper than finding new customers (at least, smart businesses have realized this; some industries such as cell phone service providers seem to have not figured this out very well). In a free market where there is ample competition, promotions that encourage loyalty generally produce a better return on investment than promotions that solicit new customers. Thus, loyalty rewards programs have become common place in our modern world. These programs encourage loyalty, and reward those who demonstrate the greatest degrees of loyalty. One of the easiest and cheapest ways to reward higher tier loyalty members is to give them first preference for upgrades. It's not just cheap, it's actually completely free because the hotel doesn't forgo any opportunities to sell higher rated rooms. If someone is willing to buy the room class that has a higher rate they will have the opportunity to do so. If not, we will give high loyalty customers a complimentary upgrade and in doing so reemphasize to them why they should remain loyal to us.

So your wild idea that people who are in lower class accommodations are somehow subsidizing those who are in higher class accommodations is absolute horseshit. It's born of your complete and total ignorance. The only thing that prevents your notion from being absolutely laughable, is just how pathetically sad it is.

Pfft.

I owned my own bar and have worked for the financial industry for over 15 years. That includes New York Stock Exchange, Sungard and Bloomberg.

Don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, sonny boy.

So....you went from Wall Street to bartending? That's not exactly a success story pal!

And what does that have to do with understanding how airline rates work?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Your replies are nothing..You don't get to reply with "bullshit" and have that be the gospel.
Either offer up some kind of factual rebuttal or shut your trap...

Here's the thing.

Sitting behind your keyboard in your mom's basement telling me to "shut my trap" isn't very effective.

In fact?

It's a laugh riot.

No basement here. Own my own home. And I provided facts. You provided "bullshit"...
The facts counter your shitty narrative. Your LIE.....

You got no "facts". Just a bunch of racist crapola that says that non-white people pulled the government down because lily white bankers were "Forced" to loan them money.

That's not what the CRA did at all.

What it did was to stop the practice of "red lining".

The bogus loans were actually made in large part by predatory lending outfits that had the backing of big firms like Goldman Sachs.

Many of these outfits lied to and about the applicants. They lied to them about the terms of the loan and the lied to the loan backers by ginning up the data on the loan applications.

Additionally many of these loans were some folks actually refinancing to start businesses or do home improvement.

Several things happened. Businesses failed, there was a financial collapse which led to massive job loss which led to loans defaulting which led to Mortgage backed securities going south which led to panic in the insurance industry, namely AIG.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your fucking racist meme.

The main goal that caused the bubble and bust was to put minorities and poor into houses of their own. Government lowered the standards several times because these people were not credit worthy.

It eventually came down to 0% down and no credit checks for applicants who were put on ARM loans. These uneducated people didn't know or care about ARM loans and what it meant to them.

If it wasn't bad enough they could barely make the house payments (if they were making them at all) interest rates went up. Banks began foreclosing on all those homes and the collapse began.

yes, mention these facts and the lib playbook instructs the lefties to change the narrative to "wall street"....
There is no reasoning with these people.....

 

[thereisnospoon]

See all the folks flying in first class on the plane?

Most of them are doing it on your dime.

Alright you stupid fuck, you really don't know what you are talking about, and now I'm going to school you...

What do you know about airline operations? What do you know about pricing strategies? Answer: You don't know shit. On the other hand, I know quite a damn bit. See, when it comes to rates and inventory management airlines operate in a nearly identical fashion as hotels. I happen to work in the hotel industry, and I know exactly what goes on in these scenarios and I can tell you that you are so far off the fucking mark it's downright shameful that you've even opened your mouth.

My credentials:
Eight years of extensive hotel experience with primary emphasis in rooms and operations; have traversed multiple properties among some of the top companies in the world, and internationally established brands; primary emphasis on full service Four Diamond properties, though also have participated in the select service markets as well; a documented history of progressive development while also taking on inter-divisional responsibility; inter-property departmental management; divisional supervisory experience; current position as Assistant General Manager with a medium sized hotel directly overseeing Front Office and Housekeeping departments while liaising with corporate revenue management.

A hotel's inventory is composed of room nights; a room night is one room for one night. If a person books one room over three nights, they are purchasing a total of three room nights. If a person books three rooms over two nights, they are purchasing six room nights.

A hotel's inventory is perishable. If a hotel has 10 rooms that go vacant on a given night, then the hotel has lost 10 room nights that it will never again have the opportunity to sell. The ultimate goal of the hotel is to sell out every single night. Of course, this is not likely to happen. So the next goal is to sell as many room nights as possible, and to sell each room night at the highest rate at which you can convince people to buy. The main challenge here is that different people will be willing to buy at different prices. This is where yield management comes into play. In determining the optimum rates at which to sell, a hotel must forecast market demand at specific times and attempt to capitalize on that demand for each room night.

Thus, rates for a given room night are always variant. If the rates for a given room night are set too high, fewer people will buy and it will become necessary for the hotel to lower rates to solicit additional customers in order to increase occupancy as the specified date approaches. If rates are too low, the hotel will leave revenue on the table. Successful yield management requires operations and revenue managers to employ accurate estimations on the likelihood that new reservations will continue to be made when rates are set at a certain point.

This is where room class comes in. John may be willing to pay $200 for a room night, but Bill may only be willing to pay $150 for the same room night. Meanwhile, Frank may be willing to pay $250 for a room on the same night, but only if he receives a higher level of product that than what John and Bill are looking for. Therefore, hotels offer a diversity of room types, some of which constitute higher and lower room classes. So John buys a $200 room night in a standard room, Frank buys a $250 room night in a suite. Bill doesn't buy a room night because he's not willing to pay the advertised rate. Eventually the hotel realizes that the chances of rooms going empty is increasing as the date of interest approaches, and they begin advertising lower rates. Bill eventually buys a room night at $175, because as time has elapsed he has become more willing to pay more instead of risking not finding anything at all and having to sleep in his car.

On the other hand, there are also times when there will not be enough market demand to fill room nights in room classes that are priced higher than standard rooms. This is where room class overbooking comes into play. If all standard rooms have been booked for a certain day, but there are still several upgraded rooms that are available, the hotel will typically play both sides of the fence by continuing to advertise both room categories as available, at their respective rates. There is still a chance that someone may be willing to buy the room night at the higher rate. But in case nobody is willing, the hotel will continue to offer room nights at the lower class rate as long as the overbooking can be balanced against whatever higher class rooms go unbought. The hotel will simply provide complimentary upgrades to a few lucky customers. Often times, the recipients of complimentary upgrades will be pre-selected based on multiple criteria, such as total duration of stay (it's easier to upgrade a one-nighter because tomorrow night the higher room class might be sold out already). But one of the key factors that is taken into account is their rate. The more money I'm making from you, the greater preference you receive when I hand out complimentary upgrades.

And that brings us to the issue of customer loyalty. Modern business practices have recognized that keeping customers is cheaper than finding new customers (at least, smart businesses have realized this; some industries such as cell phone service providers seem to have not figured this out very well). In a free market where there is ample competition, promotions that encourage loyalty generally produce a better return on investment than promotions that solicit new customers. Thus, loyalty rewards programs have become common place in our modern world. These programs encourage loyalty, and reward those who demonstrate the greatest degrees of loyalty. One of the easiest and cheapest ways to reward higher tier loyalty members is to give them first preference for upgrades. It's not just cheap, it's actually completely free because the hotel doesn't forgo any opportunities to sell higher rated rooms. If someone is willing to buy the room class that has a higher rate they will have the opportunity to do so. If not, we will give high loyalty customers a complimentary upgrade and in doing so reemphasize to them why they should remain loyal to us.

So your wild idea that people who are in lower class accommodations are somehow subsidizing those who are in higher class accommodations is absolute horseshit. It's born of your complete and total ignorance. The only thing that prevents your notion from being absolutely laughable, is just how pathetically sad it is.

Pfft.

I owned my own bar and have worked for the financial industry for over 15 years. That includes New York Stock Exchange, Sungard and Bloomberg.

Don't try to pull the wool over my eyes, sonny boy.

So....you went from Wall Street to bartending? That's not exactly a success story pal!

And what does that have to do with understanding how airline rates work?

Sallow ids an elitist liberal. They think they know everything...And when presented with facts that counter their self proclaimed knowledge, they quickly turn the discussion into a pissing contest by using deflections and name calling.
These are the people who will get into a car crash and try to lie their way out of responsibility.
"Sir, you were on the wrong side of the road and crashed into this other car"
No I wasn't. Besides, who is to say what is "wrong"....
I think that damage was there already.
Or this...
Sirma'am, you borrowed the money, You have to pay it back.
"Why should I. He has plenty of other money"
"I am a single mom"
"I haven't been working much lately"..
"He said "pay me back whenever"...Sir/ma'am, it's been 5 years...."Yeah, in my mind, that is still whenever"
These fucking libs are long on excuses and short on owning up to any responsibilities

 

[bripat9643]

You don't write off this travel?

You'd be unique. Most businesses that send people to travel on airplanes, write it off.


Taxes for business travelers: What is and isn't deductible

And by the way, along with the write off, they get those miles.

Double dip.

The get the write off because THEY front the money for the travel....
Its the same as Comp time in lieu of overtime.
The company trades the worker for additional time off at straight time, while the employee essentially fronts the overtime pay.
They get more paid time off in return. If my employer switched us to comp time, I'd love it. More paid free time? Are you kidding? That's a bonus!
Conversely, the employer and employee get to realize the savings from the additional taxation collected as overtime wages are taxed at a much higher rate. Everybody wins.

When you deduct the travel from taxes, that means less taxes are collected.

It's:

A. A subsidy to the company that is doing the deduction.
B. It's a subsidy to the travel industry.
C. It's a subsidy to the credit card industry.

Someone has to pay for that.

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The get the write off because THEY front the money for the travel....
Its the same as Comp time in lieu of overtime.
The company trades the worker for additional time off at straight time, while the employee essentially fronts the overtime pay.
They get more paid time off in return. If my employer switched us to comp time, I'd love it. More paid free time? Are you kidding? That's a bonus!
Conversely, the employer and employee get to realize the savings from the additional taxation collected as overtime wages are taxed at a much higher rate. Everybody wins.

When you deduct the travel from taxes, that means less taxes are collected.

It's:

A. A subsidy to the company that is doing the deduction.
B. It's a subsidy to the travel industry.
C. It's a subsidy to the credit card industry.

Someone has to pay for that.

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

 

[bripat9643]

When you deduct the travel from taxes, that means less taxes are collected.

It's:

A. A subsidy to the company that is doing the deduction.
B. It's a subsidy to the travel industry.
C. It's a subsidy to the credit card industry.

Someone has to pay for that.

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The FAIR tax is progressive because it eliminates anyone who earns under a certain amount from paying the tax.

 

[francoHFW]

If you don't, and they have an accident, it's a disaster for the Americans. Same with health care. Pass the gd bill. Pubs just use the whole problem as a wedge issue. A-holes!!

If they don't have a license, they shouldn't be driving. They have no right to drive a motor vehicle in this country. Besides, Democrats give them drivers licenses so they can cheat elections easier.

Pubcrappe. Illegals don't vote, they have enough problems already. BTW, in 2007, Pew found that 84% of illegals worked, 67% paid taxes, and 35% owned homes. Nobody can actually throw them all out- that's just for the haters. It's not their fault Pubs give them an open invitation to come (no good SS/ID card).

Republicans are trying to stop them, it's just that Democrats keep promoting them to come to this country and stay.

And don't tell me they don't vote. In California, they gave them drivers licenses at the beginning of the year. Little did we know it was just a piece of a larger more dastardly plan. Now they are trying to push for motor-voter which will automatically register all those illegals to vote.

Republicans controlled the country for eight years

Why didn't they stop them then?

Just because they call themselves a republican, doesn't mean they're not progressive.
In fact some of the worst republicans are 100% progressive... Theodore Roosevelt case in point.
A rotten president, through and through....

BS. But he's ONE lol.

 

[francoHFW]

When you deduct the travel from taxes, that means less taxes are collected.

It's:

A. A subsidy to the company that is doing the deduction.
B. It's a subsidy to the travel industry.
C. It's a subsidy to the credit card industry.

Someone has to pay for that.

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The poorest 20% pay 20% in all taxes and fees, the richest 28%. Don't be duped.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The poorest 20% pay 20% in all taxes and fees, the richest 28%. Don't be duped.

Pay attention. We're talking about income taxes here--not all taxes.

 

[francoHFW]

That shrimp project was no joke if you looked into it, and cost basically nothing. You hater dupes think it's all waste until you find out what actually happens...

The fact that Republicans still bring up that $10,000 shrimp experiment shows how little they know about science

$10,000? Try four million dollars.

'Shrimp On A Treadmill': The Politics Of 'Silly' Studies

..Take the case of the "shrimp on a treadmill." Burnett says the senator's report linked that work to a half-million-dollar research grant. But that money actually went to a lot of different research that he and his colleagues did on this economically important seafood species.

The treadmills were just a small part of it, a way to measure how shrimp respond to changes in water quality. Burnett says the first treadmill was built by a colleague from scraps and was basically free, and the second was fancier and cost about $1,000. The senator's report was misleading, says Burnett, "and it suggests that much money was spent on seeing how long a shrimp can run on a treadmill, which was totally out of context."

'Shrimp On A Treadmill' And The Politics Of 'Silly' Science Studies

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then call your US Senator and US House rep and demand they change the tax code.
Offers from GOP members of Congress have been made to simplify the US Tax Code and you libs keep resisting any changes.
For example, a flat tax and/or a fair tax would eliminate most deductions. But your side counters with "but what about"...So it is YOUR fault....
Once again, you want it both ways.
With each post, you fall farther behind in the argument.
You make no sense. As is the case for most people who do nothing but complain.

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The FAIR tax is progressive because it eliminates anyone who earns under a certain amount from paying the tax.

I guess it depends on who's fair tax we're talking about.

As for myself, I think everybody should pay something which is why I said a progressive consumption tax. Necessities are taxed very low and increase as you advance through non-necessities and finally luxury items.

As a landlord, a flat tax would kill me since I have nearly 100 write-offs. I would survive but be forced to recoup that lost money from my tenants which I would really hate to do.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The fact that Republicans still bring up that $10,000 shrimp experiment shows how little they know about science

$10,000? Try four million dollars.

'Shrimp On A Treadmill': The Politics Of 'Silly' Studies

..Take the case of the "shrimp on a treadmill." Burnett says the senator's report linked that work to a half-million-dollar research grant. But that money actually went to a lot of different research that he and his colleagues did on this economically important seafood species.

The treadmills were just a small part of it, a way to measure how shrimp respond to changes in water quality. Burnett says the first treadmill was built by a colleague from scraps and was basically free, and the second was fancier and cost about $1,000. The senator's report was misleading, says Burnett, "and it suggests that much money was spent on seeing how long a shrimp can run on a treadmill, which was totally out of context."

'Shrimp On A Treadmill' And The Politics Of 'Silly' Science Studies

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

There are no "giveaways" to big oil. Oil companies are taxed like any other company.

 

[francoHFW]

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Because your're brainwashed- they're all part of what people pay. WHY we have a flat tax here and all the new wealth goes to the richest. Watch some real news. Not "47% pay nothing" Pub propaganda. Go Browns.
Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The poorest 20% pay 20% in all taxes and fees, the richest 28%. Don't be duped.

Pay attention. We're talking about income taxes here--not all taxes.

 

[francoHFW]

First you post I should write my congressman to ask for a flat tax and they you post I make no sense.



Flat tax is bull.

Simple enough.

You have an opinion on the flat tax....You don't like the current tax code....And I'm the bad guy here.
Tell me, what is wrong with everyone paying the same rate and eliminating most deductions?
What is wrong with an individual being able to prepare his or her tax return form in a matter of minutes? One one page?
Why does the US tax Code have to be over 79,000 pages?
You complained about an OP writing off business travel, yet you refuse to allow the rules to be changed. And I'm the bad guy.....
All you ever do here is complain and call people names. Your favorite( all libs do this)...Racist.....

The flat tax won't get rid of the IRS. Only a consumption based tax such at the FAIR tax will accomplish that.

Actually I'm for neither. I'm all for a progressive consumption tax, that way everybody rich or poor has a stake in the game.

The FAIR tax is progressive because it eliminates anyone who earns under a certain amount from paying the tax.

I guess it depends on who's fair tax we're talking about.

As for myself, I think everybody should pay something which is why I said a progressive consumption tax. Necessities are taxed very low and increase as you advance through non-necessities and finally luxury items.

As a landlord, a flat tax would kill me since I have nearly 100 write-offs. I would survive but be forced to recoup that lost money from my tenants which I would really hate to do.

NO NEW TAXES ON THE NONRICH> Ay caramba.

 

[francoHFW]

$10,000? Try four million dollars.

'Shrimp On A Treadmill': The Politics Of 'Silly' Studies

..Take the case of the "shrimp on a treadmill." Burnett says the senator's report linked that work to a half-million-dollar research grant. But that money actually went to a lot of different research that he and his colleagues did on this economically important seafood species.

The treadmills were just a small part of it, a way to measure how shrimp respond to changes in water quality. Burnett says the first treadmill was built by a colleague from scraps and was basically free, and the second was fancier and cost about $1,000. The senator's report was misleading, says Burnett, "and it suggests that much money was spent on seeing how long a shrimp can run on a treadmill, which was totally out of context."

'Shrimp On A Treadmill' And The Politics Of 'Silly' Science Studies

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

There are no "giveaways" to big oil. Oil companies are taxed like any other company.

OMG Read something.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

'Shrimp On A Treadmill': The Politics Of 'Silly' Studies

..Take the case of the "shrimp on a treadmill." Burnett says the senator's report linked that work to a half-million-dollar research grant. But that money actually went to a lot of different research that he and his colleagues did on this economically important seafood species.

The treadmills were just a small part of it, a way to measure how shrimp respond to changes in water quality. Burnett says the first treadmill was built by a colleague from scraps and was basically free, and the second was fancier and cost about $1,000. The senator's report was misleading, says Burnett, "and it suggests that much money was spent on seeing how long a shrimp can run on a treadmill, which was totally out of context."

'Shrimp On A Treadmill' And The Politics Of 'Silly' Science Studies

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

There are no "giveaways" to big oil. Oil companies are taxed like any other company.

OMG Read something.

I've read a lot. Would you care to see what I read?

I didn't think so.

 

[bripat9643]

The fact that Republicans still bring up that $10,000 shrimp experiment shows how little they know about science

$10,000? Try four million dollars.

'Shrimp On A Treadmill': The Politics Of 'Silly' Studies

..Take the case of the "shrimp on a treadmill." Burnett says the senator's report linked that work to a half-million-dollar research grant. But that money actually went to a lot of different research that he and his colleagues did on this economically important seafood species.

The treadmills were just a small part of it, a way to measure how shrimp respond to changes in water quality. Burnett says the first treadmill was built by a colleague from scraps and was basically free, and the second was fancier and cost about $1,000. The senator's report was misleading, says Burnett, "and it suggests that much money was spent on seeing how long a shrimp can run on a treadmill, which was totally out of context."

'Shrimp On A Treadmill' And The Politics Of 'Silly' Science Studies

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

What "give aways" are those?

 

[francoHFW]

It amazes me that brain washed conservatives still bring this up as an example of taxpayer waste. Even if the story was debunked years ago

To Conservatives, it is scientists saying...Let's put shrimp on a treadmill and see what happens

To scientists, it was a low cost method to find out at what point water contamination begins to impact shrimp

Republicans and science....it totally baffles them

The only thing baffling is your complete ignorance when it comes to frivolous spending.

You dumbasses bitch CONSTANTLY about not having enough money to spend on everything from social services to education to foodstamps. Yet somehow you defend shit like this.
It just goes to show that no amount of taxation will ever be enough for you greedy scumbags.

We DEFINITELY want to only tax the rich more. The amount for science studies is tiny compared to giveaways to big oil, etc etc. Pubs are WORSE at big gov't and spending. GREAT CON MEN,

There are no "giveaways" to big oil. Oil companies are taxed like any other company.

OMG Read something.

I've read a lot. Would you care to see what I read?

I didn't think so.

Absolutely. But I'm afraid it's Pubcrappe. I'm always asking for links. Links?