Teachers walk straight outta Compton

[DriftingSand]

Teachers stage apparent sickout at Compton high school - latimes.com

half the teachers call in sick to a Compton school because they are unhappy with their union representation...and they want more money of course.

the info I found on the internet says they make at least 46k - 87k.

I don't know how the poor babies survive.

I bet the students "graduating" from that High School leave with a 5th grade education at best. Perhaps the teachers should count their blessings before they're pay is cut (as it should be).

 

[thereisnospoon]

Teachers stage apparent sickout at Compton high school - latimes.com

half the teachers call in sick to a Compton school because they are unhappy with their union representation...and they want more money of course.

the info I found on the internet says they make at least 46k - 87k.

I don't know how the poor babies survive.

According to this Los Angeles County Office Of Education School District Average Teacher Salary & How to Become a Teacher
In LA County, the avg salary of an elementary school teacher is $60.6K
For Middle School it is $63k
For High School it is $65K...
That is BEFORE any additional stipends for certain certifications, for teachers holding Masters Degrees, plus pension, plus medical benefits.
These employees of the taxpayers of LA County are doing quite well.
Although, working in a crime infested shit hole such as Compton, should get them combat pay as well.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The average price of rent in Compton is about $1800/mo. At $46k/yr, that would mean that over half of a teacher's annual salary goes to rent. That's before taxes, food, transportation and insurance, maintenance, medicine, utilities, work supplies, clothing, etc. Even at $87k/yr, teachers aren't being paid what they're worth to society.

Meanwhile, banker billionaire criminals who killed the global economy with their shady deals are still enjoying their bonuses from public bailout funds.

They don't have to live in the city, you know. Lots of people have to make that choice.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The average price of rent in Compton is about $1800/mo. At $46k/yr, that would mean that over half of a teacher's annual salary goes to rent. That's before taxes, food, transportation and insurance, maintenance, medicine, utilities, work supplies, clothing, etc. Even at $87k/yr, teachers aren't being paid what they're worth to society.

Meanwhile, banker billionaire criminals who killed the global economy with their shady deals are still enjoying their bonuses from public bailout funds.

Compton's a shit hole with high crime rates and majority Hispanic and black populations. Anyone who pays that kind of rent is an idiot.

I have no clue where the OP got that rental rate from. I would guess that a majority of the housing in Compton is section 8. Or is owned by the city.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Just another day in beautiful Compton, CA
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.889...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s2WV_iIeuOHBocUhnQnbuag!2e0
Note...The homes all are equipped with bars on the doors and windows. The broken out window on the driver's side of the Mercedes( a bit out of place) and of course the rocket scientist out on his afternoon constitutional.

 

[KNB]

I bet the students "graduating" from that High School leave with a 5th grade education at best. Perhaps the teachers should count their blessings before they're pay is cut (as it should be).

I'll bet that you don't know why that statement should make you want to pay higher wages to teachers.

Here's a hint: "count their blessings, while they're pay is cut (as it should be)."

Get it? Possessive pronouns. Ask a teacher. They'll explain it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

los angeles property has gone up a lot in the last 15 years.
most people are holding on to property they bought 30-40 years ago.
if you were to buy a house in Compton or many other depressed areas, 1800 per month or more would probably be right.

lotta foreigners buying property (probably with our tax money)

The tax values have risen. But no one is buying at tax value..
This house...The one with the car in the driveway according to zillow.com is on the market for $525k....The Days on market is almost a year. The zillow estimate on the value is $439k..
The home is a 3095 SF..
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.890...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sgvaogayJ0_GI1HQrkXMalQ!2e0

Remarkably, this house is just two blocks from the photo in my previous post.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I can't find the link which I was referring to but it listed average rent price in Compton around $1,765, but the reports that I've been seeing now are putting it at around $900/mo. That would mean that rent does not take up half of their pay. However, even $86k/yr for a teacher anywhere in America is shit pay. Only morons would attempt to undermine the importance of teachers and education. There isn't any reason why teachers can't be paid more, there isn't any reason to dissolve the Department of Education, and there isn't any reason to demonize teachers' unions (or any other union for that matter. America itself is a Union.), especially while billionaire scum continue to fuck the world.

Which laws did those bankers break? HSBC confessed to laundering billions of dollars in drug money for cartels that have killed thousands of people along the US/Mexico border. They paid a fine worth about 2 months' revenue because to put them in prison would have destroyed the fictional global financial system that the world's largest banks have created for their own benefit.
Pressure mounting for Libor jail terms - Jul. 23, 2012
Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke | | Rolling Stone
HSBC Judge Approves $1.9B Drug-Money Laundering Accord - Bloomberg
Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail - Forbes

Why don't the teachers move? Because many don't have the money to just start up somewhere else, plus that's their home and they want to stay to try to make it better. That's why they became teachers.

$86k is shit pay?
You're on crack.
And everyone who does not kneel at the union altar is a criminal or a scab, right fucko?
Take your pro union labor is my religion shit and shove it up your ass.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The issue here is "teachers". Leaving their jobs, leaving their charges - their students.

Turning their backs on children.

Teachers aren't charges of children. Teachers aren't educators. Teachers aren't the educators or our progeny.

Teachers are, however, self-centered conceited unionist clowns who could give a flying fuck about their charges.

They walk off and say "fuck you" to us? I say "fuck you" to you so-called "teachers".

Fuck off you so-called "educators".

Of course. During contract negotiations , it's always "for the children"...Paying teachers hihg wages is "for the children"....Then these over indulged people don't get their way and the first thing they do is walk off the job.
The teachers that walk out on their students should all get a taste of what it's like to be the person who is raising those kids and paying the taxes that fund the wages of these teachers.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Sure, we should pour more money down an academic black hole where most don't graduate, and most who do are functionally illiterate. If I were trying to get them a raise, I would go with combat pay.

Or we can do nothing and that will make it soo much better. Just imagine...

Uh,,,,before you go reaching into the pockets, please define "we"...Sorry, Charlie, this is LA County's problem.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Teachers stage apparent sickout at Compton high school - latimes.com

half the teachers call in sick to a Compton school because they are unhappy with their union representation...and they want more money of course.

the info I found on the internet says they make at least 46k - 87k.

I don't know how the poor babies survive.

If you think it is such an easy, cushy, well paid job, then why don't you be a teacher? Or do you not have enough education?

Don't start that bullshit.....Becoming a teacher is a CHOICE. Don't lay that shit on other people.
Teaching is NOT easy. As a matter of fact it's a difficult job. But no one is forcing these people to teach.

 

[thereisnospoon]

How did you get to rent in Compton being $1800 a month. Do you have any idea how poor Compton is? Compton used to be all black now it's primarily poor Hispanic immigrants. $1800 a month is more than most of them get paid.

Many teachers do not live in the communities where they teach. Many of them, like many others, commute on a daily basis.

And guess what would occur if there were residency requirements?
The shit storm would start an earthquake.

 

[thereisnospoon]

I can't find the link which I was referring to but it listed average rent price in Compton around $1,765, but the reports that I've been seeing now are putting it at around $900/mo. That would mean that rent does not take up half of their pay. However, even $86k/yr for a teacher anywhere in America is shit pay. Only morons would attempt to undermine the importance of teachers and education. There isn't any reason why teachers can't be paid more, there isn't any reason to dissolve the Department of Education, and there isn't any reason to demonize teachers' unions (or any other union for that matter. America itself is a Union.), especially while billionaire scum continue to fuck the world.

Which laws did those bankers break? HSBC confessed to laundering billions of dollars in drug money for cartels that have killed thousands of people along the US/Mexico border. They paid a fine worth about 2 months' revenue because to put them in prison would have destroyed the fictional global financial system that the world's largest banks have created for their own benefit.
Pressure mounting for Libor jail terms - Jul. 23, 2012
Outrageous HSBC Settlement Proves the Drug War is a Joke | | Rolling Stone
HSBC Judge Approves $1.9B Drug-Money Laundering Accord - Bloomberg
Why DOJ Deemed Bank Execs Too Big To Jail - Forbes

Why don't the teachers move? Because many don't have the money to just start up somewhere else, plus that's their home and they want to stay to try to make it better. That's why they became teachers.

You can't find the link because it doesn't exist. You are nothing but a typical liberal liar.

You seriously need to fuck yourself, okay? I can't be a liar if I admit that I misread the information and then clarified myself.

The fact still stands that while you Teabaggers bitch and whine and moan and complain about "fat cat teachers" and their evil bloated Communist union salaries, Wall Street is jamming a massive red, white, and blue cock so far up your ass that you can taste the freedom.

Banks made billions by funding terrorism against the United States, and you want to fight public school teachers. Teabaggers have great priorities.

I think that red white and blue cock is the union thug's dick in your mouth.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Good heavens. I don't see a single posting that is relevant to the issue of the OP.

What difference does it make what the average rental is in Compton? Most of the teachers don't live there anyway. Why would they?

The question is whether they were justified in conducting a sick-out. Clearly, this is a violation of the state public-sector collective bargaining law, but is the district negotiating in good faith, or are they delaying because they don't want to pay appropriate wages and benefits? It wouldn't be the first time a school district has played this waiting game.

How do their compensation and benefits compare with other similarly-situated school districts in the same geographical area? Are they higher or lower? Are the teachers being made to suffer because the politicians don't want to fund realistic compensation?

It is easy to say that collective bargaining (unions) is not appropriate for the public sector, or that they are already making too much, but that ignores reality. They have collective bargaining in California, and the school district is obliged both by law and morally to bargain in good faith. If they won't deal honestly with the results of good faith bargaining (higher wages), then they should be removed and replaced with people who are more realistic - even if it results in changes that are painful to the taxpayers.

Honestly, this article doesn't provide enough factual information to judge whether this sick-out (assuming it is actually a sick-out) is outrageous or well-warranted by the conduct of the school board.

Can somebody from California who is interested in reality provide some more information?

Let's face facts. The relationship between union leadership and politicians with whom these so called negotiations are conducted has become incestuous.
The union leadership makes demands. The politicians ask what's in it for them. The union guarantees votes. The politicians say "how much?" "Done"...
The taxpayers get bent over a table.
So don't go on with "good faith". Because if there was truly that, the people paying the mother loving bills would get a seat at the bargaining table.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Teachers, its not just the rent that is high, its the food prices in California, I spend an easy 700-1000$ a month at the supermarket in California. Electricity is expensive in California as well, and then there is the price of Gasoline, its extreme.

Maybe the Teachers should quit teaching Global Warming and the Evil of Oil. So that California will develop its offshore oil and bring down the price of energy, which will bring down the price we pay for water and food.

Maybe the teachers should not of voted to build a 100$ billion dollars on Wind Turbines and Solar Plants, which is raising electric rates 100%

Maybe the teachers should of walked out and protested when the government of California spent Billions on Hydrogen fuel development, which failed.

The teachers are for all the Liberal/Democrat/Socialist ideas, yet when the impact and effects hit their wallet, the teachers act as if everyone else is to blame and demand more money from the public.

Check the price of produce, lettuce, that is California teaching the value of Green Energy. You like the price, if you're young and just started buying food you most likely do not know that the price of food had doubled in a very short amount of time.

California is in serious trouble, it is effecting the whole United States of America. We are shutting down our Energy Production driving up the cost of living.

The Teachers voted for Green Energy, let them pay for it.

You spend 175 to $250 per week for food?
How many people are you feeding?
I know the cost of living near CA's major population centers is quite high, but Jesus!

 

[Meathead]

I bet the students "graduating" from that High School leave with a 5th grade education at best. Perhaps the teachers should count their blessings before they're pay is cut (as it should be).

I'll bet that you don't know why that statement should make you want to pay higher wages to teachers.

Here's a hint: "count their blessings, while they're pay is cut (as it should be)."

Get it? Possessive pronouns. Ask a teacher. They'll explain it.

You dish out $1800 average rent in Compton without realizing the abject fallacy in your argument, and then get your panties bunched about possessive pronouns?!