Ted Nugent's Ridiculous Comments About Military Suicides

[Steve_McGarrett]

Ted Nugent is at it again.

Appearing on conservative pundit Alex Jones' radio program on Tuesday, the controversial rocker suggested that American soldiers who commit suicide are driven to the act by "heartbreak" that President Barack Obama is violating the constitution.

The comment came as Jones and Nugent discussed what they identified as a mainstream media conspiracy against the Tea Party -- conducted because, as Nugent said, Tea Partiers represent "an intelligence to the scam… led by the groomed America-hater commander in chief."

Nugent continued:

I'm gonna hit you with something even more ugly, and just heartbreaking, and anti-American than anything else. I bet you've covered this Alex. We have an epidemic, an unprecedented increase, in the heroes of the U.S. military committing suicides, and I'm gonna tell you why. I’m sure the leftist blogs are gonna attack me, misquote me.
But I’ll tell you why more and more warrior heroes of the military are killing themselves: because they are in absolute frustration and heartbreak that their boss, their commander in chief violates the Constitution that he has made an oath to, while their hero warrior blood brothers are being blown to smithereens and blown up while executing their oath to the same Constitution that the president, the vice president and the attorney general violate.

Ted Nugent: Military Suicides Are At Record Levels Because Obama 'Violates The Constitution'

This "Champion" Draft Dodger should shut his damn trap off once and for all. His hate for this President denies all logical thinking on his part it's disgusting.

Why are you lefty retards so obsessed with Uncle Ted? No one listens to him but you. Most of the time none of us would even hear about this stuff if you didn't obsessively post it here.

Grow up morons.

He lives in their heads like Sarah Palin.

 

[PredFan]

Refresh my memory...

I care about what Ted Nugent says or thinks, because 'why' again?

It doesn't matter to lefties. It's all part of their fantasy world. Facts don't really matter.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Ted Nugent is at it again.

Appearing on conservative pundit Alex Jones' radio program on Tuesday, the controversial rocker suggested that American soldiers who commit suicide are driven to the act by "heartbreak" that President Barack Obama is violating the constitution.

The comment came as Jones and Nugent discussed what they identified as a mainstream media conspiracy against the Tea Party -- conducted because, as Nugent said, Tea Partiers represent "an intelligence to the scam… led by the groomed America-hater commander in chief."

Nugent continued:

I'm gonna hit you with something even more ugly, and just heartbreaking, and anti-American than anything else. I bet you've covered this Alex. We have an epidemic, an unprecedented increase, in the heroes of the U.S. military committing suicides, and I'm gonna tell you why. I’m sure the leftist blogs are gonna attack me, misquote me.
But I’ll tell you why more and more warrior heroes of the military are killing themselves: because they are in absolute frustration and heartbreak that their boss, their commander in chief violates the Constitution that he has made an oath to, while their hero warrior blood brothers are being blown to smithereens and blown up while executing their oath to the same Constitution that the president, the vice president and the attorney general violate.

Ted Nugent: Military Suicides Are At Record Levels Because Obama 'Violates The Constitution'

This "Champion" Draft Dodger should shut his damn trap off once and for all. His hate for this President denies all logical thinking on his part it's disgusting.

Wait - I thought Rocker Ted Nugent was supposed to be dead or in jail by now?

 

[PredFan]

Ted Nugent is at it again.

This "Champion" Draft Dodger should shut his damn trap off once and for all. His hate for this President denies all logical thinking on his part it's disgusting.

And here I thought leftists thought Vietnam draft-resisters were heroes to be emulated while us GIs were spit-worthy? I don't know your politics or if you served in the Armed Forces, but Nugent has as much right as you do to say what he thinks while we still have a First Amendment.....something Hussein is doing his best to go after when he gets the Second Amendment rendered meaningless.

I'm not getting into GI suicides other than to say the only thing a guy who's come home after combat needs is some normality and to be left the hell alone. But with little chance of getting a job, and fewer Americans than ever knowing what he's been through, chances are he's alone a lot with his thoughts.

Well I Did serve. 20 years. Its not that he Is a draft dodger.....oh and ever read what he did to not serve.....damn. Its just now he is some ki.d of patriot telling us How to think about this country. Fuck that ass.You do not have the right to be a flag waver when you shit on it.

That only exists in your alledged mind.

 

[PredFan]

Ted Nugent is at it again.

Appearing on conservative pundit Alex Jones' radio program on Tuesday, the controversial rocker suggested that American soldiers who commit suicide are driven to the act by "heartbreak" that President Barack Obama is violating the constitution.

The comment came as Jones and Nugent discussed what they identified as a mainstream media conspiracy against the Tea Party -- conducted because, as Nugent said, Tea Partiers represent "an intelligence to the scam… led by the groomed America-hater commander in chief."

Nugent continued:

I'm gonna hit you with something even more ugly, and just heartbreaking, and anti-American than anything else. I bet you've covered this Alex. We have an epidemic, an unprecedented increase, in the heroes of the U.S. military committing suicides, and I'm gonna tell you why. I’m sure the leftist blogs are gonna attack me, misquote me.
But I’ll tell you why more and more warrior heroes of the military are killing themselves: because they are in absolute frustration and heartbreak that their boss, their commander in chief violates the Constitution that he has made an oath to, while their hero warrior blood brothers are being blown to smithereens and blown up while executing their oath to the same Constitution that the president, the vice president and the attorney general violate.

Ted Nugent: Military Suicides Are At Record Levels Because Obama 'Violates The Constitution'

This "Champion" Draft Dodger should shut his damn trap off once and for all. His hate for this President denies all logical thinking on his part it's disgusting.

Why are you lefty retards so obsessed with Uncle Ted? No one listens to him but you. Most of the time none of us would even hear about this stuff if you didn't obsessively post it here.

Grow up morons.

He lives in their heads like Sarah Palin.

Lol, you're probably right.

 

[kiwiman127]

Troop suicide has been at an alarming state since fairly early on during the Iraq War.
PTSD is the big culprit. It seems to happen during "front less" wars when you don't know who the enemy is or isn't. Remember the troops coming back from Vietnam? No one understood the concept of PTSD back then so they blamed Agent Orange or whatever. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, all wars with no fronts where everybody and anybody could be the enemy wanting to kill the troops. Now that certainly has caused unbelievable stress and fear.

LIFE=PTSD. I'm so tired of hearing these guys blame everything they fuck up after they come home on the war they were in. You're right, it started with Vietnam and should have ended there. Anybody who's ever been in a bad car wreck or almost drowned or been attacked by a dog has what you could call "PTSD".....What works is you put those thoughts in a room in your mind and lock the door....wall them off and let them die by being replaced with better memories.

Actually, the Navy and Army shrinks started getting intensive training on how to deal with PTSD starting around 2006. I just happen to know that because the company I work for had a division that was involved with the training.
Unfortunately, it was a little late for many of our troops and it's still under-staffed.

 

[kiwiman127]

It's too bad Nugent is dominating this thread.
Obviously he is clueless and used our troops who are suffering greatly because of the real reason for the suicides for his own benefit, so he could bash "O"! There is no excuse for that crap.

 

[JoeBlam]

Troop suicide has been at an alarming state since fairly early on during the Iraq War.
PTSD is the big culprit. It seems to happen during "front less" wars when you don't know who the enemy is or isn't. Remember the troops coming back from Vietnam? No one understood the concept of PTSD back then so they blamed Agent Orange or whatever. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, all wars with no fronts where everybody and anybody could be the enemy wanting to kill the troops. Now that certainly has caused unbelievable stress and fear.

LIFE=PTSD. I'm so tired of hearing these guys blame everything they fuck up after they come home on the war they were in. You're right, it started with Vietnam and should have ended there. Anybody who's ever been in a bad car wreck or almost drowned or been attacked by a dog has what you could call "PTSD".....What works is you put those thoughts in a room in your mind and lock the door....wall them off and let them die by being replaced with better memories.

Actually, the Navy and Army shrinks started getting intensive training on how to deal with PTSD starting around 2006. I just happen to know that because the company I work for had a division that was involved with the training.
Unfortunately, it was a little late for many of our troops and it's still under-staffed.

I understand and have no problem with what you're saying other than I think it's overblown and in most cases just a default position to blame current mistakes on. If you're schooled correctly in what to expect before you go into a live-fire threatre, most of what you'll see is what you expect to see. Smart guys don't get too close to anybody and don't depend on a girlfriend back home to stay faithful. Do your job, don't try to do somebody else's, stay with your training, get your sleep, don't drink, don't smoke, don't silloutte yourself, and never trust any of the locals....that's how you get home without worms between your ears. BTW, only about 10% of any fighting force ever sees combat so don't fall for stories that would never be told around guys who really were in the shit.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

It's too bad Nugent is dominating this thread.
Obviously he is clueless and used our troops who are suffering greatly because of the real reason for the suicides for his own benefit, so you could bash "O"! There is no excuse for that crap.

Nugent has been asked by the military to play for the troops many times overseas. He also raises awareness for veterans with benefit concerts.

 

[bodecea]

It's too bad Nugent is dominating this thread.
Obviously he is clueless and used our troops who are suffering greatly because of the real reason for the suicides for his own benefit, so you could bash "O"! There is no excuse for that crap.

Nugent has been asked by the military to play for the troops many times overseas. He also raises awareness for veterans with benefit concerts.

I'd walk out.

 

[Camp]

If you weren't there, shut up.

 

[whitehall]

It's not the whole reason but there is a lot of truth in it. The seemingly never ending war in Afghanistan is apparently of no interest to the administration. The use of the Military as a social experiment is a factor. The dizzying relationships developed on co-ed warships and Military bases is a factor.

 

[kiwiman127]

It's too bad Nugent is dominating this thread.
Obviously he is clueless and used our troops who are suffering greatly because of the real reason for the suicides for his own benefit, so you could bash "O"! There is no excuse for that crap.

Nugent has been asked by the military to play for the troops many times overseas. He also raises awareness for veterans with benefit concerts.

This time he overstepped the boundaries of respecting those who have PTSD and those who died because of PTSD. They got PTSD fighting for our country.
Typically I just chuckle about Nugent says. This time he pissed me off big time.

 

[Zona]

Troop suicide has been at an alarming state since fairly early on during the Iraq War.
PTSD is the big culprit. It seems to happen during "front less" wars when you don't know who the enemy is or isn't. Remember the troops coming back from Vietnam? No one understood the concept of PTSD back then so they blamed Agent Orange or whatever. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, all wars with no fronts where everybody and anybody could be the enemy wanting to kill the troops. Now that certainly has caused unbelievable stress and fear.

LIFE=PTSD. I'm so tired of hearing these guys blame everything they fuck up after they come home on the war they were in. You're right, it started with Vietnam and should have ended there. Anybody who's ever been in a bad car wreck or almost drowned or been attacked by a dog has what you could call "PTSD".....What works is you put those thoughts in a room in your mind and lock the door....wall them off and let them die by being replaced with better memories.

Ever been in combat? If so thank you. If not shut the fuck up.

 

[Zona]

Bullshit. Even if true (which it wasn't), in wartime you go for weeks without taking baths and taking care of hygiene. Recently male service men mentioned that fact that women would face after it was announced they could become part of combat unit front line soldiers. So with that said, these Military officers knew these new guys coming in would try everyway in the world to weasel out of going to war. They didn't take their excuses. They would have taken Ted outside and put the water hose to him to clean him up and made him fall in line. But Nugent's Selective Service Classifications tell the truth that he had a medical condition at the time. If he truly dodged the draft he would have never got on the bus ( like many did) and went to take his physical in the first place. Ted later admitted the story about him shitting in his pants was pure bullshit given to a gullible reporter for 'High Times' magazine back in the 70's. Ted knew the anti-war hippies would eat his sensational story up back then and buy his records.

God damn. You are wrong again. He bragged on how he dodged the draft dude. Do you even do ANY research before you spout this shit?

Ted later admitted the story about him shitting in his pants was pure bullshit. The made up story he bragged about was to a gullible reporter for 'High Times' magazine back in the 70's. Ted knew the anti-war hippies would eat his sensational story up back then and buy his records. He got on the bus but was turned away for a medical condition after his physical was taken like many countless thousands of others were at the time.

Hey burther....you sound so convincing. Got a link?

 

[R.C. Christian]

holy shit.....you beat the resident Nugent freak Lakota with this.....good going....

the hufferpuffer post doesn't have anything of Importance to talk about?

WTF is wrong with you people?

Our military is willing to give their own lives so you can sit here talking about unimportant they are.

Think about that.

What a load of bullshit. The military doesn't fight for freedumb you twerp, rather, they fight for empire but are too stupid to know it. There is a dumb ass born every minute who would make himself a victim of unending wars for empire.

 

[Zona]

holy shit.....you beat the resident Nugent freak Lakota with this.....good going....

the hufferpuffer post doesn't have anything of Importance to talk about?

WTF is wrong with you people?

Our military is willing to give their own lives so you can sit here talking about unimportant they are.

Think about that.

What a load of bullshit. The military doesn't fight for freedumb you twerp, rather, they fight for empire but are too stupid to know it. There is a dumb ass born every minute who would make himself a victim of unending wars for empire.

Why Do you hate our military?

 

[Camp]

What a load of bullshit. The military doesn't fight for freedumb you twerp, rather, they fight for empire but are too stupid to know it. There is a dumb ass born every minute who would make himself a victim of unending wars for empire.

Interesting concept. I'm thinking that after a group of guys hijacked some planes and flew them into buildings and killed thousands of our countrymen and women the boys and girls and men and women who quit their johs, schools and future plans to join the military somehow weren't thinking about empire. I know for sure my young cousin who was 12 at the time of the attack wanted to join the Marines, along with his classmates, wasn't thinking of empire. They waited six years to fullfill their dream of defending their nation and ya, in their minds, freedom. They all went to war, did what they did, and I've never heard any of them speak of fighting for empire. But what do they know, they come from families full of veterans that always serve when wars occur.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

God damn. You are wrong again. He bragged on how he dodged the draft dude. Do you even do ANY research before you spout this shit?

Ted later admitted the story about him shitting in his pants was pure bullshit. The made up story he bragged about was to a gullible reporter for 'High Times' magazine back in the 70's. Ted knew the anti-war hippies would eat his sensational story up back then and buy his records. He got on the bus but was turned away for a medical condition after his physical was taken like many countless thousands of others were at the time.

Hey burther....you sound so convincing. Got a link?

Sure. Let's look at his actual Selective Service Classification Record.

He was classified 1-5 (High School Deferment) in 1967 and 2-5 (College Deferment) in 1968. Then after being classified as 1-A (available for military service) in 1969, he was rejected because he failed his physical and was given a 1-Y classification (meaning he had physical medical limitations but not disabling during a national emergency or wartime resulting in demoting him). After the 1-Y classification was eliminated at the end of 1971, he was reclassified 4-F. What does this mean? It means Ted didn't dodge the draft at all even though he had a deferment at the time he was eligible for the draft. He got on the bus like everyone else and went to go take his physical instead of heading to Canada to avoid combat like most hippies did. The military according to his selective service classification gave him a medical exemption due to a medical limitation. My older brother was rejected in 71 because he had asthma which is not disabling.

 

[JoeBlam]

Troop suicide has been at an alarming state since fairly early on during the Iraq War.
PTSD is the big culprit. It seems to happen during "front less" wars when you don't know who the enemy is or isn't. Remember the troops coming back from Vietnam? No one understood the concept of PTSD back then so they blamed Agent Orange or whatever. Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan, all wars with no fronts where everybody and anybody could be the enemy wanting to kill the troops. Now that certainly has caused unbelievable stress and fear.

LIFE=PTSD. I'm so tired of hearing these guys blame everything they fuck up after they come home on the war they were in. You're right, it started with Vietnam and should have ended there. Anybody who's ever been in a bad car wreck or almost drowned or been attacked by a dog has what you could call "PTSD".....What works is you put those thoughts in a room in your mind and lock the door....wall them off and let them die by being replaced with better memories.

Ever been in combat? If so thank you. If not shut the fuck up.

You're welcome...now you shut the fuck up, pogue.