How does it change the cops entering into an unknown scenario? Are you saying their lives don’t matter? What if they’re black?Weren’t the cops called there? Why? by the way, them showing up put their lives in harms way. If one can’t appreciate that they are not worth any further part of thisSo Tamir Rice gets shot and killed over a toy gun even though he harmed no one but this guy gets to murder people, march down the road with his gun and gets to go home?
If people had rioted over Tamir Rice you'd probably see like 95% support
There were protests. No, there was not 95% support. There was even less of a reason for Elijah McClain to have been killed. Where is the support?
McClain resisted arrest
And wasn't in middle school
There was NO reason to arrest him. You don't arrest someone for walking home from the store..........unless you are black of course.
You arrest people for not following commands...?
Certainly don't struggle
Guy was either crazy or just so angry he was in that moment manic
Yes, he had social anxiety issues. But cops are going to learn that you don't assault someone while doing nothing illegal just because they do not jump when you say jump.
We will get there or the country will burn.
Again as soon as he failed to follow commands he was doing something illegal
No he wasn't.
It was his fault he has fucking anxiety not the worlds
Cops did the right thing. Even sent him off in an ambulance instead of beating teh shit out of him and putting him in a cell. Maybe the paramedics killed him or his anxiety. Wasn't the cops
The cops only assaulted him which lead to the rest. If they had left him alone like they should have none of it happens.
Failing to follow a lawful order is illegal
Now had he said get on your knees and give me a bj yea he'd have a right to not comply
All he had to do was stop and look at them, then sue them
It wasn't lawful.
Yes it was....
Your redress is suing the officers not struggling.
No it was not. He had done nothing wrong and the police had no reason to believe he had. In that case they have no lawful reason to stop you.
It doesn't matter. If a cop tells me to stop I have to stop. Whether i was doing something wrong or not.
That's how our law works.
I'm sure there is a legal phrase for it that google would reveal. You don't seem to understand how our law around policing works.
If they want to detain me and I physically resist....that's resisting arrest
Whether or not was a good arrest needs lawyers. As a citizen I have to submit.
Some lady called and said that while she didn't know that the person had done something illegal that there was a black man walking home in an animated manner. There is nothing illegal in that.
I'm saying that there is still no facts to show that they had any reason to stop him from going home.
It's too bad we'll never know and he would have never won taht suit because he resisted a lawful order and justified everything they were doing.
They probably wouldn't have arrested him tho. For what?
He didn't do anything besides resist
This is why the cities are burning.
If that's all? Then i'm behind killing people too
Again not an example to riot over
What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
Or this one, where the guy was told to get his license then the guy shot him for doing what he was told.
Putting down people who resist lawful orders is just how the country works. You think white people get away with resisting arrest?
Here is a white guy dying in the same way floyd died
Pick better victims
Yes, I showed where I got away with telling an officer no. He had no legal right to demand otherwise but if you prefer to see the country burn...........
The protests are going to expand beyond sports also. When it starts affecting people with money bottom lines they are going to demand change also.
Those with can not defeat those without. They have little to lose.
Telling him no means nothing. He was a fucking masseuse not a lawyer. Even if he was a lawyer the cops don't have to care.
That's something for the DA and your lawyers to sort out. A judge if it gets that far
If you resist when a cop grabs you, you've committed a crime. Rest doesn't matter. At all. THere is no legal carve out to resist a lawful order.
And just because a judge later finds the stop wasn't constitutional or have any legal backing doesn't make the order unlawful.
That thousands get huge pay days says it is. You don't get paid off for refusing a lawful order. Civil rights still mean at least something in this country.
A lawyer will tell you it's all about the context
In this case, as another user pointed out. If they just come up and harass you a bit. There isn't much you can do beyond file a complaint if you want
You will get no redress from a court
That's all that should have happened. If he really wanted to milk it he could have just silently looked at them like he was deaf and mute and they definitely would have arrested him and he would ahve got paid. I'm like 95%+ sure.
But more than likely they woulda just asked for ID, he might have said yes or no. And if they were smart they would have just let him walk because he wasn't doing anything. And it wouldn't be worth the lawyer to even try to sue em
Instead he thought because they were racially profiling him that gave him a right to resist. Which will negate any payout he might have had coming