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Can you support that? It's the basis for the rest of your comments so let's start there.Bibi's speech was just as dumb when Bush gave it 13 years ago.
yep. anybody that would attack a nuke installation in iran opens the sea way door to suitcase nukes and dirty bombs in the holy land. best to make peace now so no war later. the games are over. stop the stupid pride filled wars of my God's the greatest cause I can kill you all. what a bunch of unholy ass holes all religions are turning into following warriors instead of saviors.What I find puzzling is that NO ONE on the right is ready to face the fact that the "horse has left the barn" regarding nukes.....ANY country can now develop such weaponry....as Israel has. Selfish politicans, such as BiBi, will always try to scare the daylights of his supporters for pure political survival.So, what does he want us to do for him in regards to Pakistan?Ongoing now. Tune it in.
He is describing the history of people trying to annihilate Jews, reciting quotes from Iran's recent leaders saying they want to do exactly that, pointing out example after example of Iran and other dictators reneging on their word to play nice and restrict their nuclear research... all in the last ten years.
He stated flatly that the greatest threat to the United STATES and Israel, and the rest of the world, is a marriage between a fanatic militant Jihadi state, and nuclear weapons.
Pointed out that just because Iran is helping us fight ISIS, that doesn't mean they are our friend. They and ISIS are competing for the title of Supreme Islamic Jihadi State. "If you defeat ISIS but let Iran get the Bomb, you win the battle but lose the war."
And he hasn't said a word about attacking Iran or any offensive military operations by the West.
Tune it in.
Why can't Western leaders be this cognizant and frank?
I though he gave the same speech? There goes the rest of your argument.Can you support that? It's the basis for the rest of your comments so let's start there.Bibi's speech was just as dumb when Bush gave it 13 years ago.
Bush tried to panic the bedwetters into backing the war he wanted.
Bibi tried to panic the bedwetters into backing the war he wanted.
And both times, the rational people shook their heads sadly as they watched the hysterical people allowing themselves to be played.
Oh, the applause. Both times, it was as if a Soviet premier was up there, and the party faithful were all making sure they clapped louder than their neighbor, as they knew they were being watched and graded.
We only have leverage over Iran if other nations will support sanctions. We don't have the power to simply crush Iran's economy without the EU and China ... and Russia.There's not going to be a better deal, because if the US walks from the deal, the intl support for sanctions will crumble and Iran won't need to deal. Russia will probably give them enriched uranium just to spite us at this point.You buy into the notion that our choices are accept a deal at any cost or invade Iran. That is patently untrue.it may not be fear. It could be as simple as the policy of no compromise. The art of doing any deal is twofold: have you gotten as much concession as possible, and if so, are you better off with the deal than without. In this case, the answer to both is yes. It's not a perfect deal, but the options to a deal are killing people who don't pose a imminent threat, and until W that precluded military force, and the Tea partiers simply don't accept taking any compromise.The stain in the pants of the pants shitters make it pretty clear they are trembling with fear.
You guys should start wearing diapers.
As Netanyahu stated in his speech - the alternative is to agree to a better deal.
And that's Bibi's end game. He doesn't want a deal because that's his excuse to be the only person who can save Israel. And, he's not going to bomb unilaterally, because the entire world will demand his economy be shattered. Or if he does bomb, Iran wins.
Mr. Netanyahu also was very clear when he stated Iran needs a deal more than we do. We have to be tougher on Iran and be willing to call their bluff. If diplomacy won't work Netanyahu has made it clear that Israel will take matters into their own hands.
Why, yes, it did occur to me. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!!Did it ever occur to you that they are BOTH state sponsors of terrorism?
Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear plant and put a stop to it, apparently, still. Doing nothing will definitely get them nuked if the US doesn't help prevent it. It is a survival issue for them, maybe a religious one for Iran though so your outrage is misplaced.yep. anybody that would attack a nuke installation in iran opens the sea way door to suitcase nukes and dirty bombs in the holy land. best to make peace now so no war later. the games are over. stop the stupid pride filled wars of my God's the greatest cause I can kill you all. what a bunch of unholy ass holes all religions are turning into following warriors instead of saviors.
"We will bury you."
"When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use."
That's the kind of manly talk that makes the pants-shitters wet between the legs. But where is the USSR today?
And we made a lot of treaties with the USSR, most of which they violated.
And the USSR was an existential threat to us.
Only an piss drinking, pants-shitting idiot believes Iran would use a nuke the minute they acquired one.If Israel, as suspected, has had the bomb for decades she has already proven rational enough to have them. Does any honest, rational poster believe that the minute Iran has one she won't use it? Really?
Why, yes, it did occur to me. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!!Did it ever occur to you that they are BOTH state sponsors of terrorism?
"IRan is not the USSR. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and has been for decades."
Talk to The Rabbi. Maybe he will listen to you.
And where is the USSR today?"We will bury you."
"When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use."
That's the kind of manly talk that makes the pants-shitters wet between the legs. But where is the USSR today?
And we made a lot of treaties with the USSR, most of which they violated.
And the USSR was an existential threat to us.
They were. They fully intended to launch ICBMs at us from Cuba. The most direct attempt by the USSR to attempt a strike on the US mainland was known as the Cuban Missile Crisis. Go read your history:
Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
If Israel, as suspected, has had the bomb for decades she has already proven rational enough to have them. Does any honest, rational poster believe that the minute Iran has one she won't use it? Really?
Only an piss drinking, pants-shitting idiot believes Iran would use a nuke the minute they acquired one.If Israel, as suspected, has had the bomb for decades she has already proven rational enough to have them. Does any honest, rational poster believe that the minute Iran has one she won't use it? Really?
I am providing a historical reality. We have lived with nuclear threats much greater than a nuclear Iran would be. We made treaties under those threats and we came out on top, even though our adversaries were cheaters and the ultimate evil.Why, yes, it did occur to me. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT!!!!Did it ever occur to you that they are BOTH state sponsors of terrorism?
"IRan is not the USSR. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and has been for decades."
Talk to The Rabbi. Maybe he will listen to you.
We are talking here about the threat Iran poses to Israel, not about what Russia is doing.
Israel bombed Iraq's nuclear plant and put a stop to it, apparently, still. Doing nothing will definitely get them nuked if the US doesn't help prevent it. It is a survival issue for them, maybe a religious one for Iran though so your outrage is misplaced.yep. anybody that would attack a nuke installation in iran opens the sea way door to suitcase nukes and dirty bombs in the holy land. best to make peace now so no war later. the games are over. stop the stupid pride filled wars of my God's the greatest cause I can kill you all. what a bunch of unholy ass holes all religions are turning into following warriors instead of saviors.
If Israel, as suspected, has had the bomb for decades she has already proven rational enough to have them. Does any honest, rational poster believe that the minute Iran has one she won't use it? Really?
This is what happens when the Democrats let the far left hijack their party. The liberal principle of 'social justice' gets hyper extended to supporting Iran developing nuclear weapons.
Only an piss drinking, pants-shitting idiot believes Iran would use a nuke the minute they acquired one.
And where is the USSR today?"We will bury you."
"When we hang the capitalists they will sell us the rope we use."
That's the kind of manly talk that makes the pants-shitters wet between the legs. But where is the USSR today?
And we made a lot of treaties with the USSR, most of which they violated.
And the USSR was an existential threat to us.
They were. They fully intended to launch ICBMs at us from Cuba. The most direct attempt by the USSR to attempt a strike on the US mainland was known as the Cuban Missile Crisis. Go read your history:
Cuban Missile Crisis - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
It seems you are not following the conversation at all.
what about them? all those bat shit crazy paranoid countries have em? the world's run by killer cause we don't have the nerve to stand against them without becoming one of themIsrael bombed Iraq's nuclear plant and put a stop to it, apparently, still. Doing nothing will definitely get them nuked if the US doesn't help prevent it. It is a survival issue for them, maybe a religious one for Iran though so your outrage is misplaced.yep. anybody that would attack a nuke installation in iran opens the sea way door to suitcase nukes and dirty bombs in the holy land. best to make peace now so no war later. the games are over. stop the stupid pride filled wars of my God's the greatest cause I can kill you all. what a bunch of unholy ass holes all religions are turning into following warriors instead of saviors.
what about Pakistan ? .. they have nukes.
