2aguy
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And here we have rapes going back all the way to 2003 by two brothers who were not boyfriends of the victims, no alcohol, just violent physical assaults....
Chicago Tribune
Women were terrorized and sexually assaulted in their apartments or forced into vehicles by threat of violence in the six attacks, which occurred in the city's Lakeview and Brighton Park neighborhoods and the community areas of North Lawndale and Belmont Cragin, court documents reveal.
Leondo Joseph, arrested Saturday night at his home in the 2500 block of North Halsted Street, is charged in all six attacks, according to records. LB Joseph is charged in the two most recent attacks — in 2011 and 2012. Both brothers also face aggravated kidnapping charges.
Chicago detectives linked the brothers to the assaults through Illinois State Police crime lab examinations of all six assaults, prosecutors said in court at the bond hearing. In addition, some victims have identified the brothers, and Leondo Joseph gave statements regarding some of the cases, prosecutors said.
The number of years covered by the assaults — nine — was noteworthy, though victim's advocates point out that rapists, including in acquaintance assaults, are often repeat offenders.
But the experts also pointed to the fact that Chicago police were not notified by the crime lab until this year that the 2012 case was linked to the other five attacks, which was critical information because in the 2012 attack, Chicago police stopped a vehicle carrying the two brothers, though they were not charged.
And even all your own examples aren't defendable:
In an August 2003 case in Lakeview, the victim was returning home from the bars when she encountered a man outside her building. He helped with her keys and then followed her up to her apartment, where she opened the door and he put his foot out to stop it from closing. She allowed him in for a drink, and he then refused to leave, became physical and sexually assaulted her, officials said.
Com from the bar and let him in.
And had she been carrying a gun she could have stopped him....and before you say not possible....try reading actual stories of attacks stopped with guns...
Because we know how it turned out when she didn't have a gun on her....she was violently raped.....let's see...all 3 of your techniques for gun grabber self defense failed...
1) rely on the kindness of violent criminal rapists....failed
2) rely on the incompetence of violent criminal rapists...failed
3) rely on pure dumb luck to stop the violent criminal rapist...failed.
She needed help with her keys. She wasn't going to defend herself with a gun. You must be joking.
You know the stories as I keep posting them.....had she had a gun it is very likely she could have stopped the attack, that is the beauty of a gun.....she does not have to physically dominate a much stronger, younger, more aggressive violent attacker....drawing the weapon can and has been done during violent wrestling matches and been used to stop attackers even when they have been violently beating their victims...because a gun takes 6 pounds of pressure on a 1 inch piece of metal to cause massive damage to a violent criminal....extremely doable in these situations and it has actually been done in these situations...
You should actually study gun self defense so you know something about what you are spewing....