Thank God for our RIGHT to keep and bear arms

No it isn't obviously.
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:
 
So much for the liberal lie that armed citizens never prevent mass shootings...

Two good guys with guns stop shooting spree that left auto shop worker dead and another paralyzed

a. The premise is false, no liberal lie as claimed exists;
b. One data point and this moron ^^^ comes to a conclusion that guns in the hands of more and more people is good, in spite of the fact that there are many more data points to dispute this claim.


No....you have no data points that dispute this.....as we have posted over and over, armed Americans use their guns to stop violent criminal attacks, including mass public shooters 1,500,000 times a year, according to bill clinton's Department of Justice study on gun violence....also, as more Americans bought and also carried guns...our gun crime rate went down, not up....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

And now.....having watched actual witnesses talk about the shootings in Aurora, and Orlando...it is obvious that if those sites had not been gun free zones, more lives would have been saved and the shooters stopped earlier than they were....

You have nothing.....none of the facts, the truth or reality back up what you believe...not one single thing...

There was an armed off duty cop doing security in Orlando. Didn't matter, he was too outgunned. Mass killing guns need to be illegal.


He ran away taking the only gun with him.....I saw the documentary on the Orlando shooting, twit......the shooter could have been killed by armed citizens all throughout the attack....this is from witness statements....the guy even washed and dried his hands in a room full of unarmed people.....
 
No it isn't obviously.
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:


Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...
 
There was an armed off duty cop doing security in Orlando. Didn't matter, he was too outgunned. Mass killing guns need to be illegal.
Funny...if he was “outgunned” then why aren’t you advocating for that officer to be provided with fully automatic “mass killing guns” so that he’s not “outgunned”.

Do you know why? Because gun control isn’t about safety. It’s about control.

Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
No it isn't obviously.
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:


Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...

And in countries with strong gun control mass killings are rare. Here they happen regularly. And every year we seem to have a new worst.
 
There was an armed off duty cop doing security in Orlando. Didn't matter, he was too outgunned. Mass killing guns need to be illegal.
Funny...if he was “outgunned” then why aren’t you advocating for that officer to be provided with fully automatic “mass killing guns” so that he’s not “outgunned”.

Do you know why? Because gun control isn’t about safety. It’s about control.

Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the bill Clinton crime bill and gun control really helped. Now with lots of concealed carry violent crime is increasing.
 
No it isn't obviously.
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:


Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...

And in countries with strong gun control mass killings are rare. Here they happen regularly. And every year we seem to have a new worst.


That has nothing to do with their gun laws....Britain had one every 10 years and only avoided it so far because the one 19 year old last year posted about his shooting on facebook, and another changed his mind and called the police on himself from the school.....

And France.....their muslim population is doing the mass public shootings that regular Frenchmen won't do...
 
There was an armed off duty cop doing security in Orlando. Didn't matter, he was too outgunned. Mass killing guns need to be illegal.
Funny...if he was “outgunned” then why aren’t you advocating for that officer to be provided with fully automatic “mass killing guns” so that he’s not “outgunned”.

Do you know why? Because gun control isn’t about safety. It’s about control.

Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the bill Clinton crime bill and gun control really helped. Now with lots of concealed carry violent crime is increasing.


No.....the Ferguson effect is increasing crime in democrat cities that have attacked their police....
 
Thank 'God' humans were created with the intellectual capacities to invent and enforce 'rights'.
 
No it isn't obviously.
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:


Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...

And in countries with strong gun control mass killings are rare. Here they happen regularly. And every year we seem to have a new worst.


That has nothing to do with their gun laws....Britain had one every 10 years and only avoided it so far because the one 19 year old last year posted about his shooting on facebook, and another changed his mind and called the police on himself from the school.....

And France.....their muslim population is doing the mass public shootings that regular Frenchmen won't do...

Mass killings are rare with strong gun control.
 
There was an armed off duty cop doing security in Orlando. Didn't matter, he was too outgunned. Mass killing guns need to be illegal.
Funny...if he was “outgunned” then why aren’t you advocating for that officer to be provided with fully automatic “mass killing guns” so that he’s not “outgunned”.

Do you know why? Because gun control isn’t about safety. It’s about control.

Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the bill Clinton crime bill and gun control really helped. Now with lots of concealed carry violent crime is increasing.


No.....the Ferguson effect is increasing crime in democrat cities that have attacked their police....

Caused by too many guns. Police rarely shoot people when there is strong gun control.
 
:lol:

Yeah it is. You just have an unreasonable emotional response to guns. Shift it to another tool or object.


This car is okay:
PRF-658

because it's safe and doesn't go too fast.

But, THIS car:
ferrari-laferrari-aperta-2016-gallery-prew-1-tr.jpg

well, you love death. It goes WAY too fast.
:lol:


Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...

And in countries with strong gun control mass killings are rare. Here they happen regularly. And every year we seem to have a new worst.


That has nothing to do with their gun laws....Britain had one every 10 years and only avoided it so far because the one 19 year old last year posted about his shooting on facebook, and another changed his mind and called the police on himself from the school.....

And France.....their muslim population is doing the mass public shootings that regular Frenchmen won't do...

Mass killings are rare with strong gun control.


No...they aren't....Europe didn't have a lot of mass shootings before they took guns away......and, of course, they did murder 12 million people in gas chambers....unarmed people....
 
Funny...if he was “outgunned” then why aren’t you advocating for that officer to be provided with fully automatic “mass killing guns” so that he’s not “outgunned”.

Do you know why? Because gun control isn’t about safety. It’s about control.

Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the bill Clinton crime bill and gun control really helped. Now with lots of concealed carry violent crime is increasing.


No.....the Ferguson effect is increasing crime in democrat cities that have attacked their police....

Caused by too many guns. Police rarely shoot people when there is strong gun control.


Tell that to the victims in Mexico, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia......
 
Nothing unreasonable. The death is quite clear, just look at Vegas.


58 people were murdered by a man with a rifle. In Nice, France, a man used a rental truck to murder 86 in 5 minutes.

Americans use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminals including against mass public shooters....even in Texas...the NRA instructor used his personal AR-15 civilian rifle to stop the killer, saving at a minimum 26 people.....likely even more...

And in countries with strong gun control mass killings are rare. Here they happen regularly. And every year we seem to have a new worst.


That has nothing to do with their gun laws....Britain had one every 10 years and only avoided it so far because the one 19 year old last year posted about his shooting on facebook, and another changed his mind and called the police on himself from the school.....

And France.....their muslim population is doing the mass public shootings that regular Frenchmen won't do...

Mass killings are rare with strong gun control.


No...they aren't....Europe didn't have a lot of mass shootings before they took guns away......and, of course, they did murder 12 million people in gas chambers....unarmed people....

Yes Europe has lower ownership and mass killings are rare.
 
Because we already have an arms race. Why make it worse? We want less guns, not more. More guns is why we have so much death including mass shootings, cop shootings, accidental shootings, toddler shootings... these are problems solved with gun control.

We are in such a sad state our police are getting ptsd.
Pulse hero with PTSD to be let go from police force


Yeah.....I think this one guy was in the documentary....he wasn't the only police officer or paramedic at the shooting, twit. And again, from that documentary we learn that had it not been a gun free zone, more lives would have been saved...from actual witness testimony.....

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 16.3 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Yes the bill Clinton crime bill and gun control really helped. Now with lots of concealed carry violent crime is increasing.


No.....the Ferguson effect is increasing crime in democrat cities that have attacked their police....

Caused by too many guns. Police rarely shoot people when there is strong gun control.


Tell that to the victims in Mexico, Russia, China, Vietnam, Cuba, Cambodia......

US cops killed 100 times more than German police in 2015
 
Yes Europe has lower ownership and mass killings are rare.
See, but none of that shit matters, because we're getting more guns no matter what. We don't give a rat fuck about statistics that are heavily skewed for suicides and gang violence. We don't care.

More guns, not less. Sorry if you love Europe more. They will probably let you live there.
:dunno:
 

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