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Except blacks are not failing. Ivy league schools are not the only universities. Nor are whites getting cheated out of spots.
And you still don't show us any supporting evidence of this 230 points. Nor do you mention the legacy admissions whites get.
You have no argument to make based on fact or reality.
Blacks are 13% of the us population and despite the 230 point discrimination in their favor, average about 7% of Ivy League admissions.
They thus fail to get admitted proportionately to their population.
The 230 point bonus blacks get mean that whites ARE getting cheated. That is what that means.
Here is the link to the pdf of the actual study. Read it and knock of your crazy ass denial of reality.
https://www.princeton.edu/~tje/files/Admission Preferences Espenshade Chung Walling Dec 2004.pdf
"To examine these questions, we use data from the National Study of College Experience (NSCE), a project whose purpose is to understand the paths different students follow through higher education. Ten academically selective colleges and universities participated in the NSCE and supplied individual-level data on all persons who applied for admission in the fall of 1983 (or a nearby year), 1993, and 1997.2 These data include whether an applicant was accepted, together with a string of variables on applicant characteristics from the application form and, if the student subsequently enrolled at that institution, additional information on financial aid and academic performance in college. The information for this analysis comes from three private research universities that represent the top tier of American higher education. These are not the only NSCE schools that give admission preferences to underrepresented minority students, athletes, or legacies, but they were able to provide complete information for all three entering cohorts in our data on whether an applicant fell into any of these groups. Legacies are children or other close relatives of alumni. Athletes are defined as individuals who are recruited by athletic programs, typically meaning that they appear on coaches’ recruiting lists or are otherwise of Olympic or star athletic caliber. Table 1 contains a brief overview of the data. Altogether there are 124,374 applicant records, slightly more than half of which came from men. Approximately 80 percent of applicants had ‘‘recentered’’ SAT scores of 1200 or better, and the mean score for all applicants was 1332.3"
There are thousands of Universities besides Ivy league ones. This is not 1997. Apparently those in the Ivy League admissions figured that being white was a 230 point advantage. You seem unable to understand who makes these determinations and why things are determined as such. Therefore your arguments is weak and without merit.
This again is part of the amazing amnesia of whites.
That was fast reading on your part. You read the whole 25 pages of the study? WOW.
NO, they did not "figure" that white skin in worth 230 points.
The study documents that those who make the admissions determinations discriminate in favor of blacks to the tune of 230 points.
Stating that my argument is without merit while ignoring a peer reviewed academic study that proves massive and widespread discrimination in favor of black applicants is an act of pure dishonesty.
Your ignore hard data that is right in front of your face, in favor of your emotional need to justify your hatred of whites and to justify your side's discrimination against them.
You argument is without merit because it's been shown that SAT scores don't indicate anything.
I don't hate whites. I don't like racist whites like you.
Look dumb ass if blacks got 230 points it means that white skin was worth 230 more points than black skin. You want to keep whining about how unfair things are for whites and that why you refuse to see this simple fact that YOU bought up. There is no discrimination against whites. .Discrimination is not that you get the majority of all jobs and admissions. And that's what you are trying to call discrimination against whites.
No, your argument is without merit.
What are you talking about White skin is worth 230 more points?
No, it's really not.
The colleges are so desperate to fill in Blacks in their ranks, that they'll undercut higher performing Whites, and Asians just to fill Black quotas.
That's most certainly reverse discrimination, it's institutional racism.
My argument has 240 years of history that gives it the utmost merit.
If blacks are getting 230 points it means whites have a 230 point advantage because of their race so then blacks are given 230 points to even the score.
It's not racism, its not discrimination. These colleges have GPA standards , If backs are underperforming blacks get suspended or kicked out of that college The SAT score is not an indicator of college work