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You are letting your petty self affect you. Six literal days is six days. That is the intention. So the 6 days sum up the period of restoration. A day to God is a year to us or a day to God is a 1000 years to us. Actually a day God is an eternity to us. It is a figurative expression. Six days are literally six days as a child would read humbly.That's my point, it does NOT say "literally six days" it says "six days"The Bible does literally say 6 days.
The word literally is NOT included in that phrase in the Bible.
so if you leave it as is, there is no argument.
Parture said:It would help you to read Gary R. Habermas, the leading scholar today on the resurrection. He use to be a Buddhist, now a Christian and rejects all things Buddhism.
Dr. Gary R. Habermas - Online Resource for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ
I also do not recommend following the teachings of Buddhism that are burdensome,
conflicting or unnecessary. Many things are mistaught, confusing or falsified.
The points and principles I show are the ones consistent with Christianity and natural laws.
Yes, I agree that much of the mumbo jumbo added to Buddhist culture can or should be thrown out.
All things are made new in Christ.
So when you receive things in the spirit of Christ
they are not like the old ways as before.
I stick to the universal truths that agree consistently.
And yes these can be explained to people using Buddhist terms if that
helps people to relate to their own experiences.
My mother did not understand forgiveness
until it was explained to her by a Buddhist monk
in terms of compassion for people even if they treat you wrongly.
Your job is to still exercise the same respect and compassion
for them, so that is assuming the key step of forgiveness.
She finally accepted this when a Buddhist monk
explained it in a way that made sense to her.
so God can even use Buddhism to reach people.
I am probably more like the man you describe
who doesn't go for all the other stuff that isn't necessary.
Once you receive understanding in Christ
you don't depend on religion or rituals so that part is
not the key focus.
What is essential and universal truth
are the key principles of
Perfect Wisdom
and
Perfect Compassion
that align with God and Christ.
So this fulfills all the laws in Buddhism
that are based on these two principles.
You're speaking nonsense.Since you reject the word of God on these points, to edify, you are vain.I agree that we should live as though he will return at any time..in fact I said that.
The rest..that's just vanity.
Yeah, right. Because rejecting your nonsense is rejecting the word of God.
Like I said. Vanity.
Universalism is False - Jesus was not a universalist so Emily worships a false Christ
Because Emily has not accepted Christ, if she continues to reject Him through her universalism heresy and then dies, she will go to Hell and be there forever. There are no universalists in Heaven for universalism is a heresy.
Emily will be tormented day and night forever and ever.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't want to go where they let assholes like you in.
You're vain.You're speaking nonsense.Since you reject the word of God on these points, to edify, you are vain.I agree that we should live as though he will return at any time..in fact I said that.
The rest..that's just vanity.
Yeah, right. Because rejecting your nonsense is rejecting the word of God.
Like I said. Vanity.
More vanity on your part.
No, I agree with you exactly that one day to God does not meanYou are letting your petty self affect you. Six literal days is six days. That is the intention. So the 6 days sum up the period of restoration. A day to God is a year to us or a day to God is a 1000 years to us. Actually a day God is an eternity to us. It is a figurative expression. Six days are literally six days as a child would read humbly.That's my point, it does NOT say "literally six days" it says "six days"The Bible does literally say 6 days.
The word literally is NOT included in that phrase in the Bible.
so if you leave it as is, there is no argument.
Parture said:It would help you to read Gary R. Habermas, the leading scholar today on the resurrection. He use to be a Buddhist, now a Christian and rejects all things Buddhism.
Dr. Gary R. Habermas - Online Resource for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ
I also do not recommend following the teachings of Buddhism that are burdensome,
conflicting or unnecessary. Many things are mistaught, confusing or falsified.
The points and principles I show are the ones consistent with Christianity and natural laws.
Yes, I agree that much of the mumbo jumbo added to Buddhist culture can or should be thrown out.
All things are made new in Christ.
So when you receive things in the spirit of Christ
they are not like the old ways as before.
I stick to the universal truths that agree consistently.
And yes these can be explained to people using Buddhist terms if that
helps people to relate to their own experiences.
My mother did not understand forgiveness
until it was explained to her by a Buddhist monk
in terms of compassion for people even if they treat you wrongly.
Your job is to still exercise the same respect and compassion
for them, so that is assuming the key step of forgiveness.
She finally accepted this when a Buddhist monk
explained it in a way that made sense to her.
so God can even use Buddhism to reach people.
I am probably more like the man you describe
who doesn't go for all the other stuff that isn't necessary.
Once you receive understanding in Christ
you don't depend on religion or rituals so that part is
not the key focus.
What is essential and universal truth
are the key principles of
Perfect Wisdom
and
Perfect Compassion
that align with God and Christ.
So this fulfills all the laws in Buddhism
that are based on these two principles.
Iceweasel it is both. When you believe and receive God's truth and loveSo either you believe and are saved or you doith good and are saved. Which is it?17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
This is you.
The 6 days are twenty-four literal days since they each have an evening and a morning. They sum up the period of restoration.No, I agree with you exactly that one day to God does not meanYou are letting your petty self affect you. Six literal days is six days. That is the intention. So the 6 days sum up the period of restoration. A day to God is a year to us or a day to God is a 1000 years to us. Actually a day God is an eternity to us. It is a figurative expression. Six days are literally six days as a child would read humbly.That's my point, it does NOT say "literally six days" it says "six days"The Bible does literally say 6 days.
The word literally is NOT included in that phrase in the Bible.
so if you leave it as is, there is no argument.
Parture said:It would help you to read Gary R. Habermas, the leading scholar today on the resurrection. He use to be a Buddhist, now a Christian and rejects all things Buddhism.
Dr. Gary R. Habermas - Online Resource for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ
I also do not recommend following the teachings of Buddhism that are burdensome,
conflicting or unnecessary. Many things are mistaught, confusing or falsified.
The points and principles I show are the ones consistent with Christianity and natural laws.
Yes, I agree that much of the mumbo jumbo added to Buddhist culture can or should be thrown out.
All things are made new in Christ.
So when you receive things in the spirit of Christ
they are not like the old ways as before.
I stick to the universal truths that agree consistently.
And yes these can be explained to people using Buddhist terms if that
helps people to relate to their own experiences.
My mother did not understand forgiveness
until it was explained to her by a Buddhist monk
in terms of compassion for people even if they treat you wrongly.
Your job is to still exercise the same respect and compassion
for them, so that is assuming the key step of forgiveness.
She finally accepted this when a Buddhist monk
explained it in a way that made sense to her.
so God can even use Buddhism to reach people.
I am probably more like the man you describe
who doesn't go for all the other stuff that isn't necessary.
Once you receive understanding in Christ
you don't depend on religion or rituals so that part is
not the key focus.
What is essential and universal truth
are the key principles of
Perfect Wisdom
and
Perfect Compassion
that align with God and Christ.
So this fulfills all the laws in Buddhism
that are based on these two principles.
one literal earth day. That,s exactly what I mean that it is not literal, as you state very well here. Glad we agree!
Dear sealyboboThe Bible is clear what Jesus said,Man is made in the image of God first, not Satan.
the fall came AFTER man was made.
And Christ Jesus came after that
to restore and reconcile with God's perfect will.
God is still more powerful than Satan.
God allows Satan and demons to teach the difference
between what goes wrong if we don't forgive and repeat our history
and what Christ Jesus can do to heal and correct wrongs
if we forgive first and allow God's will by our FREE CHOICE.
So if you want to CHOOSE to fear Satan more than God,
you do allow Satan to divide and conquer.
If you CHOOSE to let God in to save as many souls
as can be saved in Christ Jesus, then you put God before Satan
and do not block God and Christ from entering in to complete Salvation.
God's will is IDEALLY that no one should be lost.
So if you CHOOSE to believe that God's will is supreme
then God can save all the souls that can possibly be saved.
If we cannot agree with each other, can we agree to leave it to God
and not try to outguess if God is going to find a way to use
Jesus to save all souls, to make sure all receive and finish the process
to be included in Salvation. I happen to have faith that God can do all things
that are otherwise impossible, so I trust God to save the maximum through Christ.
if Jesus is the Messiah for all humanity, that includes all people, so that is
what I agree and "give permission" to God to fulfill if that is God's will.
If God decides otherwise, it isn't because I blocked it by teaching "it wasn't possible"
and turning people away from Salvation.
When you watch the Cosmos you realize that the universe doesn't care about what is going on here on earth. You, ants, spiders, lions, Muslims, atheists, Hindu, dogs, dinosaurs, cats, mice. One day the sun is going to burn out or a meteor is going to wipe humans and 90% of the animals out or we might might do ourselves in with human caused global climate change.
This god talk is a distraction. It is why most scientists just avoid the subject altogether. Better to focus on the facts. Science got us to Mars. If we are ever going to get off this planet, god aint gonna come tell us how to do it. The scientists are. Do you want the human race to live forever? I do. So instead of making bombs, lets get people living on a space ship and figure out how to get to the next nearest star in 40 years instead of 70,000 years.
We are destroying this planet. Lets figure out how to power things through photosynthesis. It is possible. Don't ask god or a church to figure it out because they won't. They're in bed with the corporations. They think the earth will be fine because god told them when the end would be coming. When he comes back. So don't worry about us bringing on the end of days, because that's nonsense. God has his plan for us..
Dear sealybobo
the Christians and religious coalitions for the environment
would AGREE with you that it is our responsibility to be STEWARDS
and take care of the creation or world as you are saying.
Remember the same GOD creates the laws of nature.
aNd what environmentalists are arguing for is to respect the
laws of nature and natural balance as was already created by NATURE.
So you are asking people to abide and respect NATURE
which is the same as respecting God as creator or as creation.
We don't have to get divided over language.
The concepts align and we are asking to
restore peace and harmony and stop destructive practices
by greed and unforgiven conflicts.
The collaboration we are asking for is what it
means to be united or joined in CHrist or by CONSCIENCE.
You want people to obey CONSCIENCE
and this is what it means when Christians are called to obey God through CHRIST.
we are asking for the same things.
We just use different language for accepting
responsibility for the laws and restoring natural harmony and balance.
Parture has something to say to you honey. You aren't a real christian. See why religion is wrong/bad and a waste of time? Made up? Everyone has their own idea and no one has an ounce of proof. But you're going to hell says another Christian.
[Jhn 3:15-21 KJV] 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Every wonder why they make you memorize that bullshit? Even I know it. I don't buy it, but I know it. You're brainwashed. That's just one cults schtick.
So Jews are all condemned? They saw it with their own eyes supposedly and they didn't convert? Why should I?
How come all my friends who sound/talk like you guys are always the least educated white hillbillies?
Oh, and I'm pretty sure the Muslim faith has something similar to what you wrote above. He who believes in allah and mohammad as the profit shall be saved, blablabla. You buy it? Then why should I buy yours? What makes any of your mumbo jumbo any more or less believable? You were born into Christianity and Muslims born into Islam. Both of you believe. You remind me of the Babalonians & Greeks with their competing gods. Long before the Jewish story was made up.
Muslims are going to Hell, because you can't come along six centuries later in a cave all by yourself without any evidence to claim Jesus never died on the cross, and thus did not atone for sins.Dear sealyboboThe Bible is clear what Jesus said,When you watch the Cosmos you realize that the universe doesn't care about what is going on here on earth. You, ants, spiders, lions, Muslims, atheists, Hindu, dogs, dinosaurs, cats, mice. One day the sun is going to burn out or a meteor is going to wipe humans and 90% of the animals out or we might might do ourselves in with human caused global climate change.
This god talk is a distraction. It is why most scientists just avoid the subject altogether. Better to focus on the facts. Science got us to Mars. If we are ever going to get off this planet, god aint gonna come tell us how to do it. The scientists are. Do you want the human race to live forever? I do. So instead of making bombs, lets get people living on a space ship and figure out how to get to the next nearest star in 40 years instead of 70,000 years.
We are destroying this planet. Lets figure out how to power things through photosynthesis. It is possible. Don't ask god or a church to figure it out because they won't. They're in bed with the corporations. They think the earth will be fine because god told them when the end would be coming. When he comes back. So don't worry about us bringing on the end of days, because that's nonsense. God has his plan for us..
Dear sealybobo
the Christians and religious coalitions for the environment
would AGREE with you that it is our responsibility to be STEWARDS
and take care of the creation or world as you are saying.
Remember the same GOD creates the laws of nature.
aNd what environmentalists are arguing for is to respect the
laws of nature and natural balance as was already created by NATURE.
So you are asking people to abide and respect NATURE
which is the same as respecting God as creator or as creation.
We don't have to get divided over language.
The concepts align and we are asking to
restore peace and harmony and stop destructive practices
by greed and unforgiven conflicts.
The collaboration we are asking for is what it
means to be united or joined in CHrist or by CONSCIENCE.
You want people to obey CONSCIENCE
and this is what it means when Christians are called to obey God through CHRIST.
we are asking for the same things.
We just use different language for accepting
responsibility for the laws and restoring natural harmony and balance.
Parture has something to say to you honey. You aren't a real christian. See why religion is wrong/bad and a waste of time? Made up? Everyone has their own idea and no one has an ounce of proof. But you're going to hell says another Christian.
[Jhn 3:15-21 KJV] 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Every wonder why they make you memorize that bullshit? Even I know it. I don't buy it, but I know it. You're brainwashed. That's just one cults schtick.
So Jews are all condemned? They saw it with their own eyes supposedly and they didn't convert? Why should I?
How come all my friends who sound/talk like you guys are always the least educated white hillbillies?
Oh, and I'm pretty sure the Muslim faith has something similar to what you wrote above. He who believes in allah and mohammad as the profit shall be saved, blablabla. You buy it? Then why should I buy yours? What makes any of your mumbo jumbo any more or less believable? You were born into Christianity and Muslims born into Islam. Both of you believe. You remind me of the Babalonians & Greeks with their competing gods. Long before the Jewish story was made up.
The Jews Christians and Muslims who
Understand the spirit of God's truth in Christ
Do not reject or divide from each other
But are joined as neighbors. Islam calls for
Belivers to love all people of the Book which is Jews under Torah Christians under Scripture and Muslims by the Quran in addition to the Torah and other Bible Scripture. Very few are teaching and following this in full. Most people are lost in conflict. But if we stick to points where we agree that is the narrow gate of righteousness. Sure we could go.to bat over all places we differ, or we could focus where we agree and find the truth that is critical.
If the Bible calls them days I will stick to days so there is no argument.The 6 days are twenty-four literal days since they each have an evening and a morning. They sum up the period of restoration.No, I agree with you exactly that one day to God does not meanYou are letting your petty self affect you. Six literal days is six days. That is the intention. So the 6 days sum up the period of restoration. A day to God is a year to us or a day to God is a 1000 years to us. Actually a day God is an eternity to us. It is a figurative expression. Six days are literally six days as a child would read humbly.That's my point, it does NOT say "literally six days" it says "six days"The Bible does literally say 6 days.
The word literally is NOT included in that phrase in the Bible.
so if you leave it as is, there is no argument.
Parture said:It would help you to read Gary R. Habermas, the leading scholar today on the resurrection. He use to be a Buddhist, now a Christian and rejects all things Buddhism.
Dr. Gary R. Habermas - Online Resource for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ
I also do not recommend following the teachings of Buddhism that are burdensome,
conflicting or unnecessary. Many things are mistaught, confusing or falsified.
The points and principles I show are the ones consistent with Christianity and natural laws.
Yes, I agree that much of the mumbo jumbo added to Buddhist culture can or should be thrown out.
All things are made new in Christ.
So when you receive things in the spirit of Christ
they are not like the old ways as before.
I stick to the universal truths that agree consistently.
And yes these can be explained to people using Buddhist terms if that
helps people to relate to their own experiences.
My mother did not understand forgiveness
until it was explained to her by a Buddhist monk
in terms of compassion for people even if they treat you wrongly.
Your job is to still exercise the same respect and compassion
for them, so that is assuming the key step of forgiveness.
She finally accepted this when a Buddhist monk
explained it in a way that made sense to her.
so God can even use Buddhism to reach people.
I am probably more like the man you describe
who doesn't go for all the other stuff that isn't necessary.
Once you receive understanding in Christ
you don't depend on religion or rituals so that part is
not the key focus.
What is essential and universal truth
are the key principles of
Perfect Wisdom
and
Perfect Compassion
that align with God and Christ.
So this fulfills all the laws in Buddhism
that are based on these two principles.
one literal earth day. That,s exactly what I mean that it is not literal, as you state very well here. Glad we agree!
Since you reject the word of God on these points, to edify, you are vain.I agree that we should live as though he will return at any time..in fact I said that.
The rest..that's just vanity.
The Bible is clear, if you don't accept Christ you go to Hell.Since you reject the word of God on these points, to edify, you are vain.I agree that we should live as though he will return at any time..in fact I said that.
The rest..that's just vanity.
koshergirl, what he rally meant to say, since you are late to this thread, is that "since you reject the word of parture on these points . . . . . . "
some muslims are secular gentiles like the Jehovah's witnesses under natural laws.Muslims are going to Hell, because you can't come along six centuries later in a cave all by yourself without any evidence to claim Jesus never died on the cross, and thus did not atone for sins.Dear sealyboboThe Bible is clear what Jesus said,Dear sealybobo
the Christians and religious coalitions for the environment
would AGREE with you that it is our responsibility to be STEWARDS
and take care of the creation or world as you are saying.
Remember the same GOD creates the laws of nature.
aNd what environmentalists are arguing for is to respect the
laws of nature and natural balance as was already created by NATURE.
So you are asking people to abide and respect NATURE
which is the same as respecting God as creator or as creation.
We don't have to get divided over language.
The concepts align and we are asking to
restore peace and harmony and stop destructive practices
by greed and unforgiven conflicts.
The collaboration we are asking for is what it
means to be united or joined in CHrist or by CONSCIENCE.
You want people to obey CONSCIENCE
and this is what it means when Christians are called to obey God through CHRIST.
we are asking for the same things.
We just use different language for accepting
responsibility for the laws and restoring natural harmony and balance.
Parture has something to say to you honey. You aren't a real christian. See why religion is wrong/bad and a waste of time? Made up? Everyone has their own idea and no one has an ounce of proof. But you're going to hell says another Christian.
[Jhn 3:15-21 KJV] 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Every wonder why they make you memorize that bullshit? Even I know it. I don't buy it, but I know it. You're brainwashed. That's just one cults schtick.
So Jews are all condemned? They saw it with their own eyes supposedly and they didn't convert? Why should I?
How come all my friends who sound/talk like you guys are always the least educated white hillbillies?
Oh, and I'm pretty sure the Muslim faith has something similar to what you wrote above. He who believes in allah and mohammad as the profit shall be saved, blablabla. You buy it? Then why should I buy yours? What makes any of your mumbo jumbo any more or less believable? You were born into Christianity and Muslims born into Islam. Both of you believe. You remind me of the Babalonians & Greeks with their competing gods. Long before the Jewish story was made up.
The Jews Christians and Muslims who
Understand the spirit of God's truth in Christ
Do not reject or divide from each other
But are joined as neighbors. Islam calls for
Belivers to love all people of the Book which is Jews under Torah Christians under Scripture and Muslims by the Quran in addition to the Torah and other Bible Scripture. Very few are teaching and following this in full. Most people are lost in conflict. But if we stick to points where we agree that is the narrow gate of righteousness. Sure we could go.to bat over all places we differ, or we could focus where we agree and find the truth that is critical.
Sure Parture and where we disagreeThe Bible is clear, if you don't accept Christ you go to Hell.Since you reject the word of God on these points, to edify, you are vain.I agree that we should live as though he will return at any time..in fact I said that.
The rest..that's just vanity.
koshergirl, what he rally meant to say, since you are late to this thread, is that "since you reject the word of parture on these points . . . . . . "
The 6 days are twenty-four literal days since they each have an evening and a morning. They sum up the period of restoration.
You want to be eternally separated from God so God is giving you what you want in Hell.The old christian hell routine, what a load of mindless drivel.
Why are you making a false idol out of universal salvation?If a universalist repents of universalism and gives his life to Christ he will be saved. But once he dies the choice is final.
