Nostra
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You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.![]()
Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’
Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...www.msnbc.com
Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.
It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.
This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.
You're a moron too for posing this.
Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!
I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.
Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.
From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.
Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.
You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.
It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.
Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.
Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.
Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.
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Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation
Rachel Maddow reads a passage from her new book, "Bag Man," which builds on the award-winning podcast about the corruption of Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.www.msnbc.com
The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.
So you get your info on Trump’s taxes from that Madcow dude?
Not a good idea, Chowderhead.
You lose. No counter argument. Next?
You have no argument to counter, Dummy.
Man, you just keep losing.