The Biden administration has no choice but to pursue accountability for Trump and all his associates

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

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Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

 

[SC Patriot]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

So a constitutional scholar wants to ignore the constitution?

Typical prog.

What's being ignored?

If Ford was able to Pardon Nixon out of being prosecuted, a Pardon can be pretty much be given for any reason.

Making up some "obstruction of justice" excuse is just that, an excuse for what progs like you really want to do, punish ThoughtCrime.

If it were given for any reason, any president could do the same for one's self, therefore making him or her above the law. If, for example, which is likely the case with Trump, he pardoned his buddies to stay quiet about him, and they lost their fifth amendment rights after words, told on Trump to save their own skins, and you still couldn't prosecute Trump, them Trump is immune to the law. You can't have it both ways. Get a clue.

lol. How naive.

Lets take a look.

Nixon resigned before he was removed from office. Therefore Ford had to pardon him.

Trump was impeached and not removed from office, he did not resign, he had no charges levied against him....just accusations.

If he needed to be pardoned he would have resigned and have pence pardon him.

You are naive and acting silly with this thread.

Your post has nothing to do with me being naive, because your post has nothing to do with my post. My post concerns itself with a potential crime by Trump for pardoning criminals who kept their mouths shut.

Here's how all this is going to play out sonny boy. Trumps butt boys who he pardoned, no longer have fifth amendment rights. And when Trump is investigated, while his butt boys go on trial in front of a grand jury, they will either tell the truth and stay out of jail, or go back to jail for perjuring themselves. Where in they go back to jail, and Trump will join them for the criminal evidence they have on him.

And another thing, the fact that Trump pardoned his buddies, did prove one very important thing, so remember this later on. Pardoning is admission of guilt.

So, who's the one being naive and silly? Take a wild guess.

Didnt waste my time reading your entire post. No offense. But your your first line mentions "potential crimes"....and that is the point. I can say my mother committed potential crimes. I can say you did.

To me that is nothing more than posting to hear yourself and feel good.

Go for it.

 

[SC Patriot]

Does your mommy know you are in your basement with your penis in your hand as you post?

Does yours?

Outstanding response.......

Sort of like...."I know you are but what am I?"

No, an honest question.

Again... I know you are but what am I?"

Go for it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

So a constitutional scholar wants to ignore the constitution?

Typical prog.

What's being ignored?

If Ford was able to Pardon Nixon out of being prosecuted, a Pardon can be pretty much be given for any reason.

Making up some "obstruction of justice" excuse is just that, an excuse for what progs like you really want to do, punish ThoughtCrime.

If it were given for any reason, any president could do the same for one's self, therefore making him or her above the law. If, for example, which is likely the case with Trump, he pardoned his buddies to stay quiet about him, and they lost their fifth amendment rights after words, told on Trump to save their own skins, and you still couldn't prosecute Trump, them Trump is immune to the law. You can't have it both ways. Get a clue.

lol. How naive.

Lets take a look.

Nixon resigned before he was removed from office. Therefore Ford had to pardon him.

Trump was impeached and not removed from office, he did not resign, he had no charges levied against him....just accusations.

If he needed to be pardoned he would have resigned and have pence pardon him.

You are naive and acting silly with this thread.

Your post has nothing to do with me being naive, because your post has nothing to do with my post. My post concerns itself with a potential crime by Trump for pardoning criminals who kept their mouths shut.

Here's how all this is going to play out sonny boy. Trumps butt boys who he pardoned, no longer have fifth amendment rights. And when Trump is investigated, while his butt boys go on trial in front of a grand jury, they will either tell the truth and stay out of jail, or go back to jail for perjuring themselves. Where in they go back to jail, and Trump will join them for the criminal evidence they have on him.

And another thing, the fact that Trump pardoned his buddies, did prove one very important thing, so remember this later on. Pardoning is admission of guilt.

So, who's the one being naive and silly? Take a wild guess.

Didnt waste my time reading your entire post. No offense. But your your first line mentions "potential crimes"....and that is the point. I can say my mother committed potential crimes. I can say you did.

To me that is nothing more than posting to hear yourself and feel good.

Go for it.

You didn't waste your time, because you have no counter argument. You keep shifting the argument to something unrelated. "Potential crimes" does not change the fact that your post before this one, still has nothing to do with mine. You are running from the argument when you said you "didn't waste time."

This is what you ran to; If he needed to be pardoned he would have resigned and have pence pardon him. This has nothing to do with anything, and certainly has no relationship with my argument. You are a coward who runs from the real fight. Again, the real fight is the fact that Trump's butt boys are going to be up in front of a jury, and everything is going to get out about Trump, or his butt boys go back to jail.

If Trump had resigned and Pence pardoned him, Trump would be admitting guilt. But here's the thing, pardoned for what? He hasn't been charged and found guilty of anything yet. By that time, Pence would be out of office. Your argument is littered in nonsense once again, just so you can run from the real argument.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

 

[Papageorgio]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

 

[Nostra]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Wait. What? You thread title claims crime by trump and ALL HIS ASSOCIATES.

Now you are down to “It CAN be a crime IF.....”

What a clown you are.

Man you have taken a massive beating in your own thread.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

When it doesn't happen will you condemn the Biden administration as corrupt?

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.

Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation

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The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.

 

[Nostra]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Avoiding taxes isn’t a crime, Dumbass.

Anyone who takes any deduction “avoids” taxes.

You really are stupid.

 

[Nostra]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.

Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation

Rachel Maddow reads a passage from her new book, "Bag Man," which builds on the award-winning podcast about the corruption of Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.

www.msnbc.com

The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.

So you get your info on Trump’s taxes from that Madcow dude?

Not a good idea, Chowderhead.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Wait. What? You thread title claims crime by trump and ALL HIS ASSOCIATES.

Now you are down to “It CAN be a crime IF.....”

What a clown you are.

Man you have taken a massive beating in your own thread.

It is. Trumps campaign finance crimes with Cohen are already in a court filing. He has already been exposed for tax evasion in the amount of over $400 million dollars. Those are crimes already committed and will be presented to the justice system when mafia man is out.

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Avoiding taxes isn’t a crime, Dumbass.

Anyone who takes any deduction “avoids” taxes.

You really are stupid.

He didn't pay them. Next? https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/17/heres-what-happens-if-you-dont-pay-your-taxes.html

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.

Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation

Rachel Maddow reads a passage from her new book, "Bag Man," which builds on the award-winning podcast about the corruption of Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.

www.msnbc.com

The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.

So you get your info on Trump’s taxes from that Madcow dude?

Not a good idea, Chowderhead.

You lose. No counter argument. Next?

 

[BWK]

Nostra posts funny faces like the coward he is when no counter argument is available to him. What a loser.

 

[Papageorgio]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.

Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation

Rachel Maddow reads a passage from her new book, "Bag Man," which builds on the award-winning podcast about the corruption of Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.

www.msnbc.com

The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.

And...? Like I said, until it happens, I don't see it happening and once it happens, it will happen over and over and over again and paralyze the government.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Like I said, I'll believe it when I see it, so far I am correct and with the results of the last few years, Trump won't be charged. I am not saying he should, or should, I am not saying he is guilty of anything, I am going by history.

Trump won't be charged nor will any other President. If Trump is charged, then we can expect every President from here on out being scrutinized while in office and after office. It won't happen.

You are going on a history of corruption that has no place in our future, and certainly has nothing to do when Trump leaves office.

Bag Man book excerpt: How to smear a legitimate investigation

Rachel Maddow reads a passage from her new book, "Bag Man," which builds on the award-winning podcast about the corruption of Richard Nixon's vice president, Spiro Agnew.

www.msnbc.com

The OLC opinion was the beginning of what Trump is today. It paralyzed Mueller from doing anything. Had he been freed from that crazy nonsense, Trump would have been charged with obstruction. After January 20th he can.

Did you seriously use the biggest conspiracy nutjob on TV as a source?

Hysterically laughable

 

[Nostra]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

The President has the power to pardon as set forth in the Constitution.

It can't be a crime for a President to exercise a power set forth in the Constitution.

This Tribe guy is a fucking moron.

You're a moron too for posing this.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon.

Yeah, I also hear Clinton is going to jail any day! LOL!!!

Heard from who? Your own echoes? Lol!

I noticed you presented no intelligent counter rebuttal to my argument. How come? Because you have no argument. That's why you ran like a coward to some Clinton nonsense.

Because your argument is based on feelings and not facts. Nothing will come of this, just as nothing has become of any other administration and their crimes. Biden is not going to pursue anything that will rock future presidencies.

From Reagan to Trump and every President in between, the hammer was going to drop on a president and never did. Until it actually happens, this is a big nothing. You go on on how it will work, in the end, it won't work.

You are wrong. It can be a crime if the pardons were used to protect Trump from his own criminal liability. We are going to find that out real soon. Explain to me exactly in legal terms, why this fact is not a fact. I know of no statute that protects any president from pardoning criminals just to protect yourself against your own criminal liability. Show us where that exists.
As for it not working, it has to work. Democracy depends on it working, or we will have presidents who are above the law, who will be able to do anything they want, with no consequence. That is your argument.

Lots of things can be crimes and lots of things you can investigate, hell how many years have they been after Clinton and nothing. Democrats said Scott Walker would be arrested and we have not seen that either.

You can claim there is a crime, you can claim whatever you want however until someone is prosecuted you have nothing. Biden is not going to push it and neither will any other federal Democrat, the best chance would be the state of New York and that could be tied up for many many years to come.

There you go again. You are running. "Clinton?" Lol! You just can't keep it in the road can you?

It is public knowledge that Trump has avoided paying taxes. He owes in excess of over $400 million dollars, which he tried to hide from the public until he couldn't. I would be in jail right now if I owed that much money to the IRS.

Biden might not push it, but the country has to. We lose our Democracy if we don't. Every president is above the law if it isn't pursued. We have no other choice.

Avoiding taxes isn’t a crime, Dumbass.

Anyone who takes any deduction “avoids” taxes.

You really are stupid.

He didn't pay them. Next? https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/17/heres-what-happens-if-you-dont-pay-your-taxes.html

Who says?

That would be something for the IRS to charge. Why have they not?

 

[BWK]

Harvard Law professor: ‘Donald Trump’s pardons must not obstruct justice’

Laurence Tribe argues that Trump’s pardons to absolve the crimes of his friends might be crimes themselves if they’re issued to obstruct justice. Tribe explains to Lawrence O’Donnell why it’s important for the next administration to investigate and prosecute those abuses of power: “We can only...

www.msnbc.com

Laurence Tribe, the foremost authority on Constitutional law, makes the case, that if the Biden administration does not pursue Trump and his associates activities, along with family members for crimes they most surely committed right in front of us, it opens the door for future lawless presidents, their family members, and associates, to participate in multiple criminal activities, sitting right in the oval office, with no consequences. This will definitely have to be the number one priority for the next administration to pursue, and if not, we will most assuredly be viewing this Constitutional Republic in the rear view mirror from now on.

When it doesn't happen will you condemn the Biden administration as corrupt?

The Biden administration aren't the one's who are going to be investigated for crimes Trump has already committed. Stupid question! Trump is going to be investigated and charged. We already know about his tax liability of $400 plus million. We already know about the court filing for campaign finance crimes.