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That is utterly false in quantum mechanics AND chaos theory also shows why highly complex deterministic systems look like they are not deterministic and are impossible to predict.And that makes you not just a deterministic physical system, how?Not just, no. I have cognitive ability.
In a deterministic model, you will always get the same output from the same initial state.
Does that sound like humans to you?
I already did. So did another poster. That's why your repetition of your incorrect comment was bizarre.Do tell.False.There’s not a mutation that’s ever been beneficial.
...and then you're back to abiogenesis again, just at another location.Life may have been seeded by another form of life. Life may have come from an extra solar meteorite.
That is not reason to believe it may not be deterministic. We don't look at things we dont fully understand and say they might not be deterministic. That's god of the gaps.there is still absolutely zero understanding of what consciousness is or how it arises strictly from deterministic systems
Abiogenesis is a fact. Once the universe had no life. Now it does. You simply can't get around those facts without resorting to magic. The fact that we don't know how something occurred doesn't mean you get to claim that God did it.That is the most likely but is not all encompassing.But we do know a few things. We know there was once no life, then there was. So, we know life formed. And that's all we need to know in order to know that abiogensis is a fact. Life formed by some sort of process that follows all the same laws as every other process. Star formation, volcano formation, hurricane formation.... And formation of life. "Abiogensis" is just the name given the process. It's not any less a fact than is hurricane formation. "Hurrigenesis"...Science has been unable to establish what life came from ergo we do not know. That does not mean abiogenesis is fact, it means that we do not know.
Life may have been seeded by another form of life. Life may have come from an extra solar meteorite. Perhaps there are extra dimensional beings involved and of course there is always the god did it excuse.
Each may be more unlikely than the last and certainly not a complete list but that does not equate to us KNOWING anything. It strongly suggests such but that is not the same thing as a fact. Abiogenesis is still a guess because science has been unable to establish any real framework as to how it works. We do not even understand what original life looked like as it is now believed that DNA was not the starting point of life.
The same thing goes for humans being nothing but deterministic systems, another claim of hard fact that you made. While I ascribe to both Abiogenesis and determinism as physics strongly points to that direction there is still absolutely zero understanding of what consciousness is or how it arises strictly from deterministic systems. Science is very specific here and that is what makes it so damn effective - the answer I do not know is an acceptable one and the fact is that we do not know if either of those contention are, indeed, accurate. The problem that arises with religions views often times is the assertion that it is known, God did it and that is that. Science does not need to go down that same silly road. We do not know if life arose form non life and we do not know that we are strictly deterministic machines. Physics has shown that those are both extremely likely and scientists are working to prove those two hypotheses right now. Abiogenesis has proven to be very difficult as we do not even understand what original form life may have taken on. Consciousness is currently beyond our grasp as we have no understanding there but current research into AI may very well shed some light in that arena.
I.E., it's possible. Sure it is. By the way, saying that means we are also saying its possible that life has formed other times in the universe.For all we know life is unique to earth.
Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar. Liar.I already did. So did another poster. That's why your repetition of your incorrect comment was bizarre.Do tell.False.There’s not a mutation that’s ever been beneficial.
Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Yep. Chaotic, but still deterministic. Even the wave functions of quantum mechanics follow deterministic laws.That is utterly false in quantum mechanics AND chaos theory also shows why highly complex deterministic systems look like they are not deterministic and are impossible to predict.And that makes you not just a deterministic physical system, how?Not just, no. I have cognitive ability.
In a deterministic model, you will always get the same output from the same initial state.
Does that sound like humans to you?
We know a pendulum is deterministic. Put two of them together and suddenly their motion becomes utterly chaotic.
The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Yep, just me and the global scientific community, all lying to try to fool the trailer park dwellers of america, who are obviously far too clever for us. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Under water
You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Under water
You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Under water
Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...Not hard for you to link to, yet you don’t. Makes you look like a liar.
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Under water
It's preferable to your spokespeople, the westboro Baptists...
You should feel ashamed of how much smarter than you she is.
Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.Do you think i care if some religious goober who shits on all the evidence whines that i dont spoonfeed him evidence for him to shit on? Think again...
Hey professor: why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Under water
It's preferable to your spokespeople, the westboro Baptists...
You should feel ashamed of how much smarter than you she is.
Your desperation is HILARIOUS!
No, they align with your beliefs perfectly.Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!
A 16 year old is your best spokesperson.Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...The fact you need to lie displays where you are in the topic.
Under water
It's preferable to your spokespeople, the westboro Baptists...
You should feel ashamed of how much smarter than you she is.
Your desperation is HILARIOUS!No, they align with your beliefs perfectly.Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!
Hey dummy... Why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
Neat!A 16 year old is your best spokesperson.Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!You’re down to a 16 year old high school dropout as your spokesperson.Yep, just me amd the global scientific community, all lying to fool the trailer park dwellers of america. Yessir, you got us...
It's preferable to your spokespeople, the westboro Baptists...
You should feel ashamed of how much smarter than you she is.
Your desperation is HILARIOUS!No, they align with your beliefs perfectly.Oh wow, you pull a cult of 15 people out as evidence!
Hey dummy... Why do you suppose the flu vaccine is different every year?
You don’t have a clue about biology.
Now it’s slander attacks.
You lost a long time ago.
Fact is a mutation in DNA is like a monkey making a random code change to Windows 10,
No, you are back to it is unknown....and then you're back to abiogenesis again, just at another location.Life may have been seeded by another form of life. Life may have come from an extra solar meteorite.
