The creationists are BACK

[geauxtohell]

AllieBabble messages me and calls me an "ignorant bigot".
Keep your gummint tit job Allie. The real world, and the vocabulary that goes along with it, are too much for you.
She thanks someone that makes a point I agree with and calls me the bigot! LOL.

You didn't know that disagreeing with Allie automatically makes you a bigot and a liar?

 

[edthecynic]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

The left is promoting Shria law which authorizes stoning to death for minor infractions and mandates a dress code and behavior for women and severe punishment for violations. The Koran authorizes Sharia law and the left is protective of the Koran to the point of hysteria. Why is the left suddenly hysterical about the benign theory of creationism? Is it a part of the war against Christianity?

Le 20:2* Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
Le 20:27* A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.
Le 24:14* Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Le 24:16* And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death.
Le 24:23* And Moses spake to the children of Israel, that they should bring forth him that had cursed out of the camp, and stone him with stones. And the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses.
Nu 14:10* But all the congregation bade stone them with stones. And the glory of the LORD appeared in the tabernacle of the congregation before all the children of Israel.
Nu 15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
De 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
De 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
De 21:21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
De 22:21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
De 22:24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.
Eze 23:47* And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up their houses with fire.

 

[JBeukema]

Care... how was there day and night (day one) before the sun and moon were made (day four)?

And how was their grass before the sun?

the sun was there already at the beginning of genesis, the step 4 was when we got our moon

if the sun was already there, what's the second light he made on day four?

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. ​

, which affixed us in to the position we were in and began the day and night situation we ended up with today

Day and night were separated on day one

... with stars and moon and sun and seasons to plant our crops to and stars to follow for travel...and time....

there was no time before Sol existed?

and there was simple life on earth before the proto planet hit us and became the moon...

The Jewish texts you're referring too don't include that part of the history. Tiamat's early collision with another body is only in the older versions of the story- specifically the Sumerian and the Babylonian.

yes, a great deal of the Sumerian history goes more in detail.

But they're a false religion and, therefore, the teaching of Satan, according to the bible.

Of course, the Sumerian tests also say the 'gods' were physically beings (aliens) and that we were made in jars through a process that sounds like genetic engineering. The entwined snakes do look a bit like a double helix..

 

[geauxtohell]

Yeah in the seventh DAY he rested...and in the eigth, created Statists to exercise the faith of those he created.

Guess what DAY YOU and your fellow Statists were created sans logic?

Irony.

BTW: "statists?" This really isn't a political argument.

thomas603 just likes to throw words together and rant about crap.

Which is obviously evidenced by the fact that he uses his preferential insult of "statist" as a pejorative term for people who actually understand the scientific method.

It's comical.

 

[AVG-JOE]

creationists should be bussed out to farms to work & leave everyone else alone..

Creationists belive in things LARGER than themselves...can't say the same for you can we?

Nothing wrong with that.
But beliefs are never science.

Beliefs are like nipples... everyone has a set and no two sets are identical.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Creationists belive in things LARGER than themselves...can't say the same for you can we?

Nothing wrong with that.
But beliefs are never science.

Beliefs are like nipples... everyone has a set and no two sets are identical.

'Cept for this poor bastard.


He seems to be one can shy of a set.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Who cares where we came from?

I do! I do!!



It's a FASCINATING story told in blood.

 

[Jack Fate]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

Arrogance gone to seed. Evolution is only a "theory". That is a scientific fact.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Who cares where we came from?

Border Patrol?

NON Answer in Context dipshit.

You really need to take baby steps to the left until you regain a sense of humor... You're missing so much!

 

[Agit8r]

What I really don't understand is how the same people who believe in creationism usually vote for social-darwinists

Somebody explain this sh!t to me? o_0

 

[Jack Fate]

What I really don't understand is how the same people who believe in creationism usually vote for social-darwinists

Somebody explain this sh!t to me? o_0

Can you describe what a "social-darwinist" is?

 

[Agit8r]

What I really don't understand is how the same people who believe in creationism usually vote for social-darwinists

Somebody explain this sh!t to me? o_0

Can you describe what a "social-darwinist" is?

Someone who supports the policies of social-darwinism. that the civil order ought to resemble natural selection

 

[rikules]

I have no problem with our schools presenting the concept of Intelligent Design and discussing all the evidence for and against it. Let it meet the same scientific standards that evolution does. Then your children can make the decision which theory makes the most sense

Do you religious fanatics really want creationism to go head to head with evolution on a scientific basis? I don't think you will be too happy with the conclusions your children reach

let's do that with most everything!

(i have no doubt most conservatives/christians would oppose this idea)

in schools we can discuss the pro and cons of evolution, ID, creationism

AND

instead of NO SEX UNTIL MARRIED
we should discuss the pros and cons of having sex outside of marriage

and

instead of GAYS ARE AN ABOMINATION

we can discuss the pros and cons of alternative lifestyles

and

instead of POT IS BAD

we can discuss the truth about pot, alcohol, tobacco...
using facts and reality as opposed to lies and fears

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You forgot one.....

 

[Uncle Kenny]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

O.K. as science is predicated on the absence of "God" or any creator or higher entity, it is almost incumbent that you can say any belief in such an entity would be "unscientific" so this is a bit of foregone conclusion. If we are to follow scientific method, it would equally be incumbent to repeatedly re-enforce that unproven theory isn't fact and that there is no definitive answer that doesn't rely on speculation whenever teaching any aspect of theoretical source of the universe or life or the Earth. If we are going to allow speculations, then the “It’s not science” angle is moot, isn’t it as that is surely not acceptable “science” in teaching is it? Treating speculative conclusions as fact is a greater violation than speculation of a designer or higher intelligence.

By this typical self-righteous contention, the only way to teach the subject is to show proven facts and make no pre-conceived conclusions for the students in regard to overall theory of these subjects. The theories being taught require more faith, in my opinion, than religion and change significantly more often, so I will not concede that one isn’t “faith based” while the other is. In short, while the state may make no law on the establishment of religion, it also may not make any law that prohibits the free pursuit of religion. In as much as that is the case, a disclaimer is totally appropriate, if for no other reason than to ensure that the state is not interpreted as having taken a definitive stance on a faith based issue against the pursuit of religion. Intentional denial of the possibility of religion being valid is surely such a stand, is it not?

 

[Gadawg73]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

Arrogance gone to seed. Evolution is only a "theory". That is a scientific fact.

No, evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory.
Different than any other form or type of theory.
SCIENTIFIC theories are tested by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
Do you know what that is?

 

[Jack Fate]

What I really don't understand is how the same people who believe in creationism usually vote for social-darwinists

Somebody explain this sh!t to me? o_0

Can you describe what a "social-darwinist" is?

Someone who supports the policies of social-darwinism. that the civil order ought to resemble natural selection

Okay. That's interesting. Now I have to ask what you mean by the "civil order ought to resemble natural selection"?

 

[Jack Fate]

I have no problem with our schools presenting the concept of Intelligent Design and discussing all the evidence for and against it. Let it meet the same scientific standards that evolution does. Then your children can make the decision which theory makes the most sense

Do you religious fanatics really want creationism to go head to head with evolution on a scientific basis? I don't think you will be too happy with the conclusions your children reach

let's do that with most everything!

(i have no doubt most conservatives/christians would oppose this idea)

in schools we can discuss the pro and cons of evolution, ID, creationism

AND

instead of NO SEX UNTIL MARRIED
we should discuss the pros and cons of having sex outside of marriage

and

instead of GAYS ARE AN ABOMINATION

we can discuss the pros and cons of alternative lifestyles

and

instead of POT IS BAD

we can discuss the truth about pot, alcohol, tobacco...
using facts and reality as opposed to lies and fears

Do you want children to accept homosexuality as normal as heterosexuality?

 

[Jack Fate]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

Arrogance gone to seed. Evolution is only a "theory". That is a scientific fact.

No, evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory.
Different than any other form or type of theory.
SCIENTIFIC theories are tested by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
Do you know what that is?

Is evolution a scientific fact?

 

[Uncle Kenny]

A little background. We have had many school boards in Georgia cave in to the religous whackos in the last decade over putting labels on all Biology books concerning evolution.
"Evolution is a theory only and there are other theories that are in the scientific community concerning the origins of life" type BS was on all Biology in many school districts.
I know, this stuff is so crazy but remember we are in Georgia where folks would believe the Spaghetti Monster is to be worshipped first and foremost if their preacher or Republican representative told them so. Science be damned.
Well sports fans, the creationists are backagain under the disguise of "intelligent design" claiming that there beliefs are science.
Now anyone with just a high school education knows full well, yet many will not publicly admit it because of worrying about getting the business in Sunday school, that creationism and intelligent design is not science but they keep plowing forward even if it is with a one legged mule after the Dover Pa. case.
Yesterday our Governor Sonny "Doesn't" Perdue announced that he, and his power house Republican buddies in the Legislature, want to make the State School Superintendent an appointed position. The religous right is behind it. Evolution is and has been their main target.
More to come folks.

Arrogance gone to seed. Evolution is only a "theory". That is a scientific fact.

No, evolution is a SCIENTIFIC theory.
Different than any other form or type of theory.
SCIENTIFIC theories are tested by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
Do you know what that is?

Any theory that is tested by applied science, is a scientific theory until either proven or disproven. Intelligent design has indeed been tested by science using reasonable methods of observation and data collection and has been equally proven to evolution, has it not? Neither is either proven or disproven conclusively. The only division among them, being the preconceived premise that there is no "God" or designer in one set of hypothesis and an allowance of that possibility in the other. As that premise is contradictory to the theory, that makes such a concession necessary, but not empirically unreasonable.

There is a reason that science assumes hypothesis to be untrue until proven, well at least in most cases…