did i quote RGS?its more friendly than you have beenYou call this a friendly post?
You call RGS posts to me friendly?
nope
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did i quote RGS?its more friendly than you have beenYou call this a friendly post?
You call RGS posts to me friendly?
Liberal narcissism and anti-Christian phobia...
Interesting SE. I hadn't seen that perspective written out there quite so explicitly before.
Sky will have to decide if the description fits her. I won't judge her or anybody on anything not revealed in their expressed comments.
Based on those comments though, like many anti-Bush and anti-Christian liberals , if such a discussion as this one continues long enough, Buddhist or not, she is not too enlightened for the true colors of prejudice, loathing, contempt, and judgmentalism, not to mention a whole lot of really wrong notions, to start showing up re both President Bush and Christianity.
You call this a friendly post?
do you not understand even what you type?its more friendly than you have been
When you are able to accept that there are extremists in your Christian ranks we'll be making progress. There are Christian dominionists, reconstructionists in America and they seek a theocracy. I pray they don't succeed. The constitution is a secualr document and its is to a secular society that we owe our religious freedom.
extremists are extreme
they are a very small minority and would be opposed by people like ME
which i have told you on NUMEROUS occasions
i no more want a theocracy here than you do
i wouldn't want anyone telling ANYONE how or what they can believe
and that is how MOST Christians believe
it has to be a freewill choice
don't you even understand that it was Christians that were persecuted in the Spanish inquisition for not following the RCC
it was a matter of not wanting religion forced on anyone that was part of the FOUNDING of this country
and why many of the early settlers risked everything to leave where they were to come here
Interesting SE. I hadn't seen that perspective written out there quite so explicitly before.
Sky will have to decide if the description fits her. I won't judge her or anybody on anything not revealed in their expressed comments.
Based on those comments though, like many anti-Bush and anti-Christian liberals , if such a discussion as this one continues long enough, Buddhist or not, she is not too enlightened for the true colors of prejudice, loathing, contempt, and judgmentalism, not to mention a whole lot of really wrong notions, to start showing up re both President Bush and Christianity.
You call this a friendly post?
No, not really but neither is it unfriendly. It is honest. You have made it perfectly clear that you fear Christianity more than Islam even after acknowledging that Islam was not what you had assumed it to be and saw it as a violent religion. And you presumably learned that from excerpts of Islam's own sacred writings and comments by one of its representatives posted in this thread.
You have had not one comment to commend Christianity or any Christian which reinforces your obvious contempt for it. And then you dragged poor President Bush into it and made it appear that you considered the evils and perils you see exemplified in him and Christian believers as one and the same. You have made several less than objective, less than loving, and less than nonjudgmental comments about both now. And the more it was pointed out that your contempt and/or fear is misplaced, the more you have been racheting up your contempt for both.
You yourself are usually gentle, intelligent, and sometimes wise, and I have appreciated many of your posts in various threads.
But you are wrong about President Bush in this context and you are wrong about Christianity. And your comments have been coming across as ill informed, judgmental, and prejudicial.
the CC is a POLITICAL groupdo you not understand even what you type?When you are able to accept that there are extremists in your Christian ranks we'll be making progress. There are Christian dominionists, reconstructionists in America and they seek a theocracy. I pray they don't succeed. The constitution is a secualr document and its is to a secular society that we owe our religious freedom.
extremists are extreme
they are a very small minority and would be opposed by people like ME
which i have told you on NUMEROUS occasions
i no more want a theocracy here than you do
i wouldn't want anyone telling ANYONE how or what they can believe
and that is how MOST Christians believe
it has to be a freewill choice
don't you even understand that it was Christians that were persecuted in the Spanish inquisition for not following the RCC
it was a matter of not wanting religion forced on anyone that was part of the FOUNDING of this country
and why many of the early settlers risked everything to leave where they were to come here
Thank you.
The Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, Coral Ridge Ministries may be minorities but they are rich ones with lots of clout.
They have considerable poilitical power.
the CC is a POLITICAL groupdo you not understand even what you type?
extremists are extreme
they are a very small minority and would be opposed by people like ME
which i have told you on NUMEROUS occasions
i no more want a theocracy here than you do
i wouldn't want anyone telling ANYONE how or what they can believe
and that is how MOST Christians believe
it has to be a freewill choice
don't you even understand that it was Christians that were persecuted in the Spanish inquisition for not following the RCC
it was a matter of not wanting religion forced on anyone that was part of the FOUNDING of this country
and why many of the early settlers risked everything to leave where they were to come here
Thank you.
The Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, Coral Ridge Ministries may be minorities but they are rich ones with lots of clout.
They have considerable poilitical power.
the others really are not
really?>the CC is a POLITICAL groupThank you.
The Christian Coalition, Focus on the Family, Coral Ridge Ministries may be minorities but they are rich ones with lots of clout.
They have considerable poilitical power.
the others really are not
They exert political pressure. They are organized and well funded.
Regarding Coral Ridge Ministeries
Coral Ridge Ministries Is One Of The Most Listened To In The World.
you know the Presbyterian church is one of the more liberal church groups in the country, right?Dr. James Kennedy last preached at the Presbyterian Church on December 24, 2006. His retirement was officially announced at the church on August 26, 2007, and he went to be with the Lord ten days later.
its more friendly than you have beenYou call this a friendly post?
When you are able to accept that there are extremists in your Christian ranks we'll be making progress. There are Christian dominionists, reconstructionists in America and they seek a theocracy. I pray they don't succeed. The constitution is a secualr document and its is to a secular society that we owe our religious freedom.
really?>the CC is a POLITICAL group
the others really are not
They exert political pressure. They are organized and well funded.
Regarding Coral Ridge Ministeries
Coral Ridge Ministries Is One Of The Most Listened To In The World.
you seriously fear this
you know the Presbyterian church is one of the more liberal church groups in the country, right?Dr. James Kennedy last preached at the Presbyterian Church on December 24, 2006. His retirement was officially announced at the church on August 26, 2007, and he went to be with the Lord ten days later.
whats silly is you seem to fear a group started by a guy that died 3 years agoreally?>They exert political pressure. They are organized and well funded.
Regarding Coral Ridge Ministeries
Coral Ridge Ministries Is One Of The Most Listened To In The World.
you seriously fear this
you know the Presbyterian church is one of the more liberal church groups in the country, right?Dr. James Kennedy last preached at the Presbyterian Church on December 24, 2006. His retirement was officially announced at the church on August 26, 2007, and he went to be with the Lord ten days later.
Pretty silly, isn't it?
D. James Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
whats silly is you seem to fear a group started by a guy that died 3 years agoreally?>
you seriously fear this
you know the Presbyterian church is one of the more liberal church groups in the country, right?
Pretty silly, isn't it?
D. James Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
and as long as they dont try to implement any kind of religious dogma as law, who cares?whats silly is you seem to fear a group started by a guy that died 3 years ago
The group is still going on. All fear is ultimately silly.
"James Kennedy, the Monitor noted, "regularly calls the United States a Christian nation that should be governed by Christians. He has created a Center for Christian Statesmanship in Washington that seeks to evangelize members of Congress and their staffs, and to counsel conservative Christian officeholders."
The Monitor story shows Kennedy manifesting all three characteristic of a dominionist: he is a Christian nationalist; he is a religious supremacist; and his politics are decidedly theocratic. But of the three characteristics, Kennedy would embrace the first, but deny the second and third."
PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates
and as long as they dont try to implement any kind of religious dogma as law, who cares?whats silly is you seem to fear a group started by a guy that died 3 years ago
The group is still going on. All fear is ultimately silly.
"James Kennedy, the Monitor noted, "regularly calls the United States a Christian nation that should be governed by Christians. He has created a Center for Christian Statesmanship in Washington that seeks to evangelize members of Congress and their staffs, and to counsel conservative Christian officeholders."
The Monitor story shows Kennedy manifesting all three characteristic of a dominionist: he is a Christian nationalist; he is a religious supremacist; and his politics are decidedly theocratic. But of the three characteristics, Kennedy would embrace the first, but deny the second and third."
PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates
do you have any proof that they have?
if so, please do show it as i would oppose anyone attempting to install any state sponsored religion as would almost everyone i know'
and as long as they dont try to implement any kind of religious dogma as law, who cares?whats silly is you seem to fear a group started by a guy that died 3 years ago
The group is still going on. All fear is ultimately silly.
"James Kennedy, the Monitor noted, "regularly calls the United States a Christian nation that should be governed by Christians. He has created a Center for Christian Statesmanship in Washington that seeks to evangelize members of Congress and their staffs, and to counsel conservative Christian officeholders."
The Monitor story shows Kennedy manifesting all three characteristic of a dominionist: he is a Christian nationalist; he is a religious supremacist; and his politics are decidedly theocratic. But of the three characteristics, Kennedy would embrace the first, but deny the second and third."
PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates
do you have any proof that they have?
if so, please do show it as i would oppose anyone attempting to install any state sponsored religion as would almost everyone i know'
and as long as they dont try to implement any kind of religious dogma as law, who cares?The group is still going on. All fear is ultimately silly.
"James Kennedy, the Monitor noted, "regularly calls the United States a Christian nation that should be governed by Christians. He has created a Center for Christian Statesmanship in Washington that seeks to evangelize members of Congress and their staffs, and to counsel conservative Christian officeholders."
The Monitor story shows Kennedy manifesting all three characteristic of a dominionist: he is a Christian nationalist; he is a religious supremacist; and his politics are decidedly theocratic. But of the three characteristics, Kennedy would embrace the first, but deny the second and third."
PublicEye.org - The Website of Political Research Associates
do you have any proof that they have?
if so, please do show it as i would oppose anyone attempting to install any state sponsored religion as would almost everyone i know'
As would I. As would any conservative, Republican, liberal, or Democrat, Christian or not, that loved America and respected the Constitution. I think Sky cannot show from ANY credible source that there are 35 million Christian Dominionists out there who intend to do that or take control of any part of any government. I think she would not be able to identify even 35 let alone 35 million.
However, there are probably more than 35 million Muslims out there who would have no problem at all with America being put under Islamic law. Unfortunately the hate-Christian websites all over the internet interpret ANY person identified as a Christian who expresses an opinion as 'forcing their religion on others.' I don't know why it is only Christians who are dangerous if they express their opinion, but sometimes it seems to go that way.
Maybe we need signs or something.
1. Non Republicans, non conservatives, and non Christians are first class citizens who have only the best intentions for their country at heart and their comments are welcome.
2. Moderates are allowed to speak but should not be taken seriously.
3. Christians, most especially Republican or Conservative Chrsitians are dangerous, over reaching, dominionistic, pushy, and threatening to all that is good and wonderful in America and they should be kept silent and out of sight.
(And we'll just ignore the fact that when the country WAS run favorably for Chrsitians and was 95% Christian, no theocracy existed or ever developed. So of course now that this is no longer the case, Christians have become more dangerous.)
You're welcome.In other words you can murder anyone that gets in your way. Anyone that opposes Islam. Thanks for being honest.
Incorrect.One must convert or die.
Well okay, if you MUST have a life independent of USMB.
Oh, I forgot to answer your question.
What I meant by 'aggressor' is the intention to use whatever means are necessary to establish Islamic law and authority where it does not now exist.
Well okay, if you MUST have a life independent of USMB.
Oh, I forgot to answer your question.
What I meant by 'aggressor' is the intention to use whatever means are necessary to establish Islamic law and authority where it does not now exist.
Not exactly. I have no interest in fighting for the establishment of Shari'ah in the United States or Sweden, for example. The task at hand is unifying the Muslim world under Islam. Introducing Islam to an overwhelmingly non-believing society would accomplish nothing; this must be preceded by long periods of proselytization and other forms of outreach. I'm only interested in non-Muslim societies insofar as they involve themselves in Islam's affairs. The goal with respect to non-Muslims shouldn't involve forcibly imposing Islamic rule on anyone, it's convincing people that Islam is the right path so that they choose it themselves.
So you have no problem with Christians exercising what they believe to be their 'great commission' to spread the gospel throughout the Earth? Christians also believe that you cannot force Christianity onto anybody, but is a process of attracting people to know the One who is the right path so that they choose it themselves.