The difference between a Conservative and a liberal is

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! it's a failure but better than anything else!1

lol what a loser!
Not better than Democratized Capitalism!

Mondragon Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Mondragon system is one of four case studies analyzed in Capital and the Debt Trap, which summarized evidence claiming that cooperatives tend to last longer and are less susceptible to perverse incentives and other problems of organizational governance than more traditionally managed organization.

You are a truly stupid human being if you are trying to conflate a business model with an entire Country's economic system.

You are, aren't you?

That's what I thought :cuckoo:
You equate the failed business model of Pure Capitalism to an entire country's economic system, please explain the difference.
 
The difference between a Conservative and a liberal is

Is only in the way in which they want to control people's lives with their arbitarily created nonsense rules. That's the only difference. That's why hyperpartisans come up with incredible ways to embarrass themselves here via being unrelenting hypocrites.
 
Not better than Democratized Capitalism!

Mondragon Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Mondragon system is one of four case studies analyzed in Capital and the Debt Trap, which summarized evidence claiming that cooperatives tend to last longer and are less susceptible to perverse incentives and other problems of organizational governance than more traditionally managed organization.

You are a truly stupid human being if you are trying to conflate a business model with an entire Country's economic system.

You are, aren't you?

That's what I thought :cuckoo:
You equate the failed business model of Pure Capitalism to an entire country's economic system, please explain the difference.

please prove the first premise of your argument; which is that what we have now is "pure capitalism" whatever that is; explain what it is and prove that is what we have now; then prove it's "failing".

if you cant do that kindly stop your idiotic whining
 
The difference between a Conservative and a liberal is

Is only in the way in which they want to control people's lives with their arbitarily created nonsense rules. That's the only difference. That's why hyperpartisans come up with incredible ways to embarrass themselves here via being unrelenting hypocrites.


yawn; a whole lot of nothing in your post.
how is each side trying to control others lives?
what nonsense rules?
what is arbitrary about them?
how are people embarrassing themselves?
how are they being hypocritical?
 
The only reason Capitalism struggles is because of radical liberals that are doing everything they can to destroy America, and that is what Obama wants to be known for in the history books, he sees the success Hitler had by taking over Germany, but he wants to secretly be Hitler on a much larger scale.
Obama: The man that bypassed the Constitution and fooled voters by his color in order to bring down the greatest country on Earth

Capitalism struggles because it isn't perfect. No system of government is perfect.

There never has been a perfect system and there will never be a perfect system.

The Utopians who try to create Perfection on Earth? So far, they've murdered at least 100,000,000 (One Hundred Million) People.

Capitalism struggles because it isn't perfect. But it's still the best system ever devised, both economically and politically.

The very tool that allows you and me to communicate i.e. the INTERNET would NEVER have come about if it wasn't driven by capitalism.

While the beginnings were funded by taxes paid by people individually or through corporation income taxes, the vast majority of the growth came from capitalism.
Actually, it came from the Dippy Hippies of the Free Speech Movement, one of whom gave away FOR FREE the BSD version of UNIX that is the backbone of the internet and TCP/IP.

The Network Is the Company | Fast Company | Business + Innovation

Other movement veterans have attempted to bring their previous beliefs into line with their current activities. John Gage, a veteran of the Free Speech Movement, went on to become chief scientist at Sun Microsystems, blending, in his words, "'90s technology with '60s activism." Explaining business at Sun (where cofounder Bill Joy is also a veteran of The Movement), Gage notes that "The whole thing has a '60s flavor to it. There’s a populist ethic. You don’t like the news? Make some of your own. Put it on the Net." Describing Sun, New Economy champion Fast Company has noted: These days, 'Power to the People' sounds like the quaint rallying cry of a bygone era. But it's a way of life at young companies like Sun – where information flows freely and people aren't afraid to express their opinions – and in the explosion of activity around the Internet. For Gage, the Net - and in particular the World Wide Web - is an electronic frontier that marries technology and democracy, the last best hope for an economy built around grassroots participation and personal expression.

Here we see the New Left's vision of true democracy through technology finally realized.

OLD-COMPUTERS.COM : HISTORY / detailed info

In March 1978, Bill Joy, who studied at the University of California at Berkeley, released the first free version of UNIX operating system which is now known as BSD UNIX. (Berkeley Software Distribution)

The history of UNIX starts back in 1969, when Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie and others started working on a Digital Equipment PDP-7 computer at Bell Labs. The first edition was launched in 1971 and was mainly used for text processing. It had a kernel, an assembler for the DEC PDP-11/20, a file system and some vital tools, including the 'ed' (editor for mortals) text editor written by Bill Joy.

Two years later, the Fourth Edition was totally rewritten in C language with multi-platform support in mind, allowing it to be used on a wide range of computers. In 1975, the Sixth Version, widely known as 'Version 6' was the first UNIX version really available outside the Bell Labs. The first BSD version was derived from this V6.

The second BSD version was launched a few months later with the full kernel source codes. This version became the backbone of the Internet and introduced the "open source" concept.
From this time, the various flavours of UNIX were divided in two different families, the BSD based types and those derived from the SYSTEM V.
The Berkeley version of UNIX became the standard in education and research and was notable for introducing using TCP/IP to UNIX (later Bill Joy will be nicknamed the "Edison of the Internet"). BSD was widely distributed in source form so that others could learn from it and improve it.

After having been involved in the BSD project, Bill Joy co-founded Sun Microsystems in 1982 and led technical strategy of the company. He designed Sun's Network File System (NFS), parts of the SPARC microprocessor architecture as well as basic pipeline used in all of Sun's SPARC microprocessors.
Later, he was the co-author of the specification for the Java programming language.
In 1998, Bill was appointed as Chief Scientist of the company.
 
Ame®icano;8612532 said:
Please define the "golden goose" in current terms!

People and businesses that actually pay taxes. Taxpayers.

If the golden goose = taxpayers then why are conservatives so adamantly opposed to the health of taxpayers AKA as the ACA?

Many reasons why, I'll give you few...

1. Freedom to chose how to live own life.
2. Take from Peter to pay Paul.
3. Still about the same number of uninsured.

Do you really think that ACA is designed to benefit taxpayers?
 
The difference between a Conservative and a liberal is

Is only in the way in which they want to control people's lives with their arbitarily created nonsense rules. That's the only difference. That's why hyperpartisans come up with incredible ways to embarrass themselves here via being unrelenting hypocrites.


yawn; a whole lot of nothing in your post.
how is each side trying to control others lives?
what nonsense rules?
what is arbitrary about them?
how are people embarrassing themselves?
how are they being hypocritical?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.
 
Ed, this country is not pure capitalism idiot, you see this when you get Social Security taken out of your check(if you work that is). Liberals need better education available to them.
 
You are a truly stupid human being if you are trying to conflate a business model with an entire Country's economic system.

You are, aren't you?

That's what I thought :cuckoo:
You equate the failed business model of Pure Capitalism to an entire country's economic system, please explain the difference.

please prove the first premise of your argument; which is that what we have now is "pure capitalism" whatever that is; explain what it is and prove that is what we have now; then prove it's "failing".

if you cant do that kindly stop your idiotic whining
The Great Depression and the Bush Depression are unassailable proof of the failure of Pure Capitalism, Capitalism as it exists today and as it existed in the past.
 
You equate the failed business model of Pure Capitalism to an entire country's economic system, please explain the difference.

please prove the first premise of your argument; which is that what we have now is "pure capitalism" whatever that is; explain what it is and prove that is what we have now; then prove it's "failing".

if you cant do that kindly stop your idiotic whining
The Great Depression and the Bush Depression are unassailable proof of the failure of Pure Capitalism, Capitalism as it exists today and as it existed in the past.

Neither depression suffered involved capitalism, moron. We haven't had capitalism at all in over 100 years and never had "pure captialism". Any time I see this kind of retardation I have to cringe. It's like you fucks never bothered to learn the meaning of the words you throw around.

:cuckoo:
 
Ed, this country is not pure capitalism idiot, you see this when you get Social Security taken out of your check(if you work that is). Liberals need better education available to them.
We have SS because of Pure Capitalism's colossal failure in the Great Depression. There was no SS before the Great Depression.
 
Is only in the way in which they want to control people's lives with their arbitarily created nonsense rules. That's the only difference. That's why hyperpartisans come up with incredible ways to embarrass themselves here via being unrelenting hypocrites.


yawn; a whole lot of nothing in your post.
how is each side trying to control others lives?
what nonsense rules?
what is arbitrary about them?
how are people embarrassing themselves?
how are they being hypocritical?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.


so typical
 
Ed, this country is not pure capitalism idiot, you see this when you get Social Security taken out of your check(if you work that is). Liberals need better education available to them.
We have SS because of Pure Capitalism's colossal failure in the Great Depression. There was no SS before the Great Depression.

There was no capitalism before the great depression either. :cuckoo:
 
please prove the first premise of your argument; which is that what we have now is "pure capitalism" whatever that is; explain what it is and prove that is what we have now; then prove it's "failing".

if you cant do that kindly stop your idiotic whining
The Great Depression and the Bush Depression are unassailable proof of the failure of Pure Capitalism, Capitalism as it exists today and as it existed in the past.

Neither depression suffered involved capitalism, moron. We haven't had capitalism at all in over 100 years and never had "pure captialism". Any time I see this kind of retardation I have to cringe. It's like you fucks never bothered to learn the meaning of the words you throw around.

:cuckoo:
Both Depressions are the inevitable result of Pure Capitalism. You are in denial and you refuse to learn from past and present mistakes.
 
1) In pure capitalism, the U.S. post office and electric companies would be completely privatized
2) Housing Agencies like Fannie and Freddie would never exist (in fact government welfare wound't exist)
3) public universities wouldn't exist
4) antitrust and all other gov. laws on businesses wouldn't exist (e.g. there would be no better business bureau to protect consumers)
5) Social Programs

Please go get your education in line, trust me its worth knowing what you're talking about
 
yawn; a whole lot of nothing in your post.
how is each side trying to control others lives?
what nonsense rules?
what is arbitrary about them?
how are people embarrassing themselves?
how are they being hypocritical?

If you have to ask, you'll never know.


so typical

Yes, it is. I'm not going to expound on that statement because it's elementary. If you do not see what rules the two sides like to make and in which ways they like to control people, it's not worth explaining. Further more, if you can not see these things you certainly can not grasp the rest. I'm not here to explain to you elementary political foundation.
 
Capitalism struggles because it isn't perfect. No system of government is perfect.

There never has been a perfect system and there will never be a perfect system.

The Utopians who try to create Perfection on Earth? So far, they've murdered at least 100,000,000 (One Hundred Million) People.

Capitalism struggles because it isn't perfect. But it's still the best system ever devised, both economically and politically.

The very tool that allows you and me to communicate i.e. the INTERNET would NEVER have come about if it wasn't driven by capitalism.

While the beginnings were funded by taxes paid by people individually or through corporation income taxes, the vast majority of the growth came from capitalism.
Actually, it came from the Dippy Hippies of the Free Speech Movement, one of whom gave away FOR FREE the BSD version of UNIX that is the backbone of the internet and TCP/IP.

The Network Is the Company | Fast Company | Business + Innovation

Other movement veterans have attempted to bring their previous beliefs into line with their current activities. John Gage, a veteran of the Free Speech Movement, went on to become chief scientist at Sun Microsystems, blending, in his words, "'90s technology with '60s activism." Explaining business at Sun (where cofounder Bill Joy is also a veteran of The Movement), Gage notes that "The whole thing has a '60s flavor to it. There’s a populist ethic. You don’t like the news? Make some of your own. Put it on the Net." Describing Sun, New Economy champion Fast Company has noted: These days, 'Power to the People' sounds like the quaint rallying cry of a bygone era. But it's a way of life at young companies like Sun – where information flows freely and people aren't afraid to express their opinions – and in the explosion of activity around the Internet. For Gage, the Net - and in particular the World Wide Web - is an electronic frontier that marries technology and democracy, the last best hope for an economy built around grassroots participation and personal expression.

Here we see the New Left's vision of true democracy through technology finally realized.

OLD-COMPUTERS.COM : HISTORY / detailed info

In March 1978, Bill Joy, who studied at the University of California at Berkeley, released the first free version of UNIX operating system which is now known as BSD UNIX. (Berkeley Software Distribution)

The history of UNIX starts back in 1969, when Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie and others started working on a Digital Equipment PDP-7 computer at Bell Labs. The first edition was launched in 1971 and was mainly used for text processing. It had a kernel, an assembler for the DEC PDP-11/20, a file system and some vital tools, including the 'ed' (editor for mortals) text editor written by Bill Joy.

Two years later, the Fourth Edition was totally rewritten in C language with multi-platform support in mind, allowing it to be used on a wide range of computers. In 1975, the Sixth Version, widely known as 'Version 6' was the first UNIX version really available outside the Bell Labs. The first BSD version was derived from this V6.

The second BSD version was launched a few months later with the full kernel source codes. This version became the backbone of the Internet and introduced the "open source" concept.
From this time, the various flavours of UNIX were divided in two different families, the BSD based types and those derived from the SYSTEM V.
The Berkeley version of UNIX became the standard in education and research and was notable for introducing using TCP/IP to UNIX (later Bill Joy will be nicknamed the "Edison of the Internet"). BSD was widely distributed in source form so that others could learn from it and improve it.

After having been involved in the BSD project, Bill Joy co-founded Sun Microsystems in 1982 and led technical strategy of the company. He designed Sun's Network File System (NFS), parts of the SPARC microprocessor architecture as well as basic pipeline used in all of Sun's SPARC microprocessors.
Later, he was the co-author of the specification for the Java programming language.
In 1998, Bill was appointed as Chief Scientist of the company.

Well THANK YOU for proving MY POINT!! Perfectly! FREE at first but boy capitalism at it's best!!

Well Bill Joy certainly enjoyed capitalism!!

Oracle has signed a deal to purchase Sun Microsystems for $7.4 billion, plunging the enterprise software vendor into the hardware market and making Sun the latest company to be subsumed by the Silicon Valley giant.
Update: Oracle agrees to buy Sun for $7.4B | Mergers and acquisitions - InfoWorld

Bill Joy as co-founder of Sun Microsystems and has a net worth of $1.5 billion.
Bill Joy has accumulated his net worth through his career at Fabry's Computer Systems Research Group, as co-founder of Sun Microstystems, and he has written the essay "Why the future doesn't need us".
Bill Joy Net Worth | Celebrity Net Worth

Now Bill Joy didn't become a billionaire simply by giving away UNIX!
 
Ed, this country is not pure capitalism idiot, you see this when you get Social Security taken out of your check(if you work that is). Liberals need better education available to them.
We have SS because of Pure Capitalism's colossal failure in the Great Depression. There was no SS before the Great Depression.

There was no capitalism before the great depression either. :cuckoo:
The Right claim we've had Capitalism since the Pilgrims.

How Capitalism Saved the Pilgrims | Cato @ Liberty
 
The Great Depression and the Bush Depression are unassailable proof of the failure of Pure Capitalism, Capitalism as it exists today and as it existed in the past.

Neither depression suffered involved capitalism, moron. We haven't had capitalism at all in over 100 years and never had "pure captialism". Any time I see this kind of retardation I have to cringe. It's like you fucks never bothered to learn the meaning of the words you throw around.

:cuckoo:
Both Depressions are the inevitable result of Pure Capitalism. You are in denial and you refuse to learn from past and present mistakes.

:lmao:

"pure captialism" :lmao:

Sure thing, Ed!!!! :lmao:

There is no capitalism here. Hasn't been any in well over 100 years. Go read a dictionary, fella.
 

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