The Dossier

[busybee01]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Actually, that's not quite right.

WE NOW KNOW: PERPS & THEIR ACCOMPLICES

Thanks to the Department of Justice Inspector General’s report, we now know for certain what has been, for those paying attention, fairly obvious.

The Steele dossier played a central role in the genesis of the Russia hoax and was used to justify extensive spying on former naval officer and Annapolis graduate Carter Page.

The top two leaders of the FBI were closely involved in this fiasco. Other powerful people knew what was happening and lied to cover it up. That all was confirmed by the IG report. The report was a disaster for the credibility of top leaders in Barack Obama’s FBI, and it’s also a big problem for the American Fake news media.

For example, in early 2018, Washington Post intelligence and national security correspondent Shane Harris lectured Kim Strassel of The Wall Street Journal about how little she knows about the story.

“Yes,” he wrote, “I am telling you the dossier was not used as the basis for a FISA warrant on Carter Page.”
​

That’s false. And yet, Harris hasn’t apologized or even acknowledged his incompetence.

Or take NBC News’s so-called intelligence correspondent Ken Dilanian. In the summer of 2018, he smugly tweeted,

“Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and the FISA warrant.”
​

But it looks like Trump was right, and he was wrong.

CNN Newsroom anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto did admit the Steele dossier might have been used for the warrant. But don’t be impressed. He lectured readers that

“the FBI would corroborate information in the dossier on its own before using such intel to justify the FISA warrant.”​

Of course, that didn’t happen. In fact, the corrupt FBI hid information showing the dossier was false. Did Sciutto issue a correction? Of course not. But it does seem a little unfair to focus on Jim Sciutto. He was merely following the lead of almost everyone else at CNN, all of whom were frantically trying to convince us that the dossier was irrelevant…

Their flawed case fell apart before Trump was even inaugurated.

And the corrupt FBI, DOJ and complicit media breathed life into this zombie case for nearly four years, clearly impacting the 2018 elections.

Has CNN retracted the comments or apologized? Apologies require introspection and integrity. At CNN, they're doubling down. CNN's Don Lemon explained that, by definition, everything CNN reported was true.

The FBI and DOJ were not corrupt despite Trump's attempts to do so. It did not impact the 2018 elections. Trump's far right wing philosophy has tured suburban voters against the GOP.

 

[busybee01]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Are you calling McCabe and the DOJ IG liars? McCabe testified that without the dossier there would have been no warrant, in fact the first one they applied for, without the dossier, was refused. The DOJ IG concluded the same. So take you propaganda and shove it.

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You are correct. Their collusion hoax to justify spying on the Trump campaign failed when the FISA Court denied the warrant. Then the resubmitted using lies out of the Hillary Purchased Dossier, and then the spy warrant was approved, with 3 - 90 day renewals, all based on the same pack of lies provided the Court by the corrupt DOJ and FBI.

The FISA warrants were obtained AFTER Page left the Trump campaign. There is nothing corrupt about the FBI and DOJ. It is Trump who is corrupt.

 

[busybee01]

Can anyone do the "shoe on the other foot test"?

Imagine if Trump paid Russians for a "Dossier" on Hillary full of lies, and that document was used by the FBI to spy on her campaign. Can you imagine the outrage?

This is why Durham needs to get to the bottom of how the Obama admin used Operation Crossfire Hurricane to "break into" the Trump campaign and illegally spy is the biggest scandal in US history.

That crime makes Nixon's "plumbers" look amateur.

That’s almost what Trump is trying to do with Biden’s campaign in Ukraine.

The difference is Obama had no part in this scandal and Trump is at the center of his.

That's only possible if you are also claiming that Obama's CIA/FBI/DNI/DOJ/IC went completely rogue.

They never had sufficient probable cause for a criminal investigation, so they circumvented the 4th amendment by opening a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation. A counter-intelligence investigation is FOR the President, in order to keep him informed of foreign threats.

Are you claiming that the Obama Administration did all this WITHOUT the President's knowledge, and that this is a superior set of affairs than the President directing the activities of the Executive Branch as outlined in Article II?

Yes they did have probable cause. Even the IG admitted this. Russia attempting to subvert our elections is a foreign threat.

 

[busybee01]

This absolves the obozo's corrupt minions in the FBI how?

Chris Wallace haha.. he has a DNC dildo under his pillow ha..

The dossier was used to open up Fisa warrant to spy on Trump..
These are facts

The OP obviously wants to focus in on the dossier so as he can take everyones eye of the ball.

The question isn't---------> dossier, or no dossier; the real question is------------>in total, did they have enough PROVEN evidence to get a FISA! Now that all their reasoning for getting a FISA has been proven bogus, they want to argue that only ONE piece of the evidence was, lol, and it had no bearing.

Nice misdirect Lesh, but it won't work. Your side is screwed, I know it, they know it, and most importantly, YOU know it-)

How do you know they didn't have enough evidence for a FISA? It wasn't just once, either--it was reapproved a few times, wasn't it?
If you have a problem with the judges' decisions, aren't you just joining the ranks of grousers who want the judges fired who decided against Trump's dictatorial wishes?

Again log off look up how they get fisa warrants then come back. Youbare wasting MB’s

A Trump supporter telling others to look things up. You need to look up quite a few things.

Ok tiny tim

Okay shithead.

 

[busybee01]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Turns out Chris Wallace was full of shit....Just like you.

You and the other Trump supporters are full of shit.

I'm supporting of the truth, which you wouldn't know if it walked up and punched you in the face.

The only fact you know is what Trump tells you to say.

 

[MAGAman]

Says the liberal who was okay with Obama illegally spying on Trump.

Didn't happen, just ask the IG.[/QUOTE]

Secretive Surveillance Court Rebukes FBI Over Handling of Wiretapping of Trump Aide

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Turns out Chris Wallace was full of shit....Just like you.

You and the other Trump supporters are full of shit.

I'm supporting of the truth, which you wouldn't know if it walked up and punched you in the face.

The only fact you know is what Trump tells you to say.

Your dim socialist leaders are scum. When is NaN going to the Betty Ford clinic?


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[busybee01]

But Hannity told them so it must be true!

Says the liberal who was okay with Obama illegally spying on Trump.

Didn't happen, just ask the IG.

No, he just said he preferred the agency term of illegal surveillance.

Sen. Lindsey Graham on FBI spying on the Trump campaign:

“If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it is that bad?”​

IG Michael Horowitz: “

Absolutely.”​

Graham:

”Is that spying?”​

Horowitz:

“It’s illegal surveillance.” pic.twitter.com/cYLZ3JjMJ3​

The trouble is that Horowitz said that it was justified. You clearly are taking what was said out of context.

 

[bluzman61]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

The "dossier" is FAKE. You SHOULD know this by now...........

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Chris Wallace haha.. he has a DNC dildo under his pillow ha..

The dossier was used to open up Fisa warrant to spy on Trump..
These are facts

You are wrong! The dildo is now in his mouth [emoji105].


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[depotoo]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Actually, that's not quite right.

WE NOW KNOW: PERPS & THEIR ACCOMPLICES

Thanks to the Department of Justice Inspector General’s report, we now know for certain what has been, for those paying attention, fairly obvious.

The Steele dossier played a central role in the genesis of the Russia hoax and was used to justify extensive spying on former naval officer and Annapolis graduate Carter Page.

The top two leaders of the FBI were closely involved in this fiasco. Other powerful people knew what was happening and lied to cover it up. That all was confirmed by the IG report. The report was a disaster for the credibility of top leaders in Barack Obama’s FBI, and it’s also a big problem for the American Fake news media.

For example, in early 2018, Washington Post intelligence and national security correspondent Shane Harris lectured Kim Strassel of The Wall Street Journal about how little she knows about the story.

“Yes,” he wrote, “I am telling you the dossier was not used as the basis for a FISA warrant on Carter Page.”
​

That’s false. And yet, Harris hasn’t apologized or even acknowledged his incompetence.

Or take NBC News’s so-called intelligence correspondent Ken Dilanian. In the summer of 2018, he smugly tweeted,

“Trump is wrong about Carter Page, the dossier and the FISA warrant.”
​

But it looks like Trump was right, and he was wrong.

CNN Newsroom anchor and chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto did admit the Steele dossier might have been used for the warrant. But don’t be impressed. He lectured readers that

“the FBI would corroborate information in the dossier on its own before using such intel to justify the FISA warrant.”​

Of course, that didn’t happen. In fact, the corrupt FBI hid information showing the dossier was false. Did Sciutto issue a correction? Of course not. But it does seem a little unfair to focus on Jim Sciutto. He was merely following the lead of almost everyone else at CNN, all of whom were frantically trying to convince us that the dossier was irrelevant…

Their flawed case fell apart before Trump was even inaugurated.

And the corrupt FBI, DOJ and complicit media breathed life into this zombie case for nearly four years, clearly impacting the 2018 elections.

Has CNN retracted the comments or apologized? Apologies require introspection and integrity. At CNN, they're doubling down. CNN's Don Lemon explained that, by definition, everything CNN reported was true.

The FBI and DOJ were not corrupt despite Trump's attempts to do so. It did not impact the 2018 elections. Trump's far right wing philosophy has tured suburban voters against the GOP.

Where have you been? Under a rock?

 

[Zorro!]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Are you calling McCabe and the DOJ IG liars? McCabe testified that without the dossier there would have been no warrant, in fact the first one they applied for, without the dossier, was refused. The DOJ IG concluded the same. So take you propaganda and shove it.

.

You are correct. Their collusion hoax to justify spying on the Trump campaign failed when the FISA Court denied the warrant. Then the resubmitted using lies out of the Hillary Purchased Dossier, and then the spy warrant was approved, with 3 - 90 day renewals, all based on the same pack of lies provided the Court by the corrupt DOJ and FBI.

The FISA warrants were obtained AFTER Page left the Trump campaign...

An extensive trove of electronic communications are gathered and stored by the Federal Government with extremely strict rules of when communications of US citizens can be searched. When granted permission to search, it is ALL searched, past and present. And not just the communication of the person named in the FISA warrant, but everyone s/he communicates with and everyone they communicate with. A single warrant can expose 2500 people to electronic spying, so the Carter Page warrant effectively threw a spy blanket over the entire Trump Campaign, Transition and Administration.

...There is nothing corrupt about the FBI and DOJ...

It is completely corrupt. They repeatedly lied, submitted a forged document, deliberately concealed information and swore false oaths in order to be able to obtain an initial spy warrant on Carter Page and to renew it 3 times.

... It is Trump who is corrupt.

No one in DC has been as extensively investigated as Trump and yet he still stands completely vindicated of all the smears and charges leveled at him by the Deep State, Anti Trumpers and Lying Fake News Media. It a remarkable and unexpected turn of events, he is effectively certified as the cleanest person in DC.

 

[depotoo]

But Hannity told them so it must be true!

Says the liberal who was okay with Obama illegally spying on Trump.

Didn't happen, just ask the IG.

No, he just said he preferred the agency term of illegal surveillance.

Sen. Lindsey Graham on FBI spying on the Trump campaign:

“If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it is that bad?”​

IG Michael Horowitz: “

Absolutely.”​

Graham:

”Is that spying?”​

Horowitz:

“It’s illegal surveillance.” pic.twitter.com/cYLZ3JjMJ3​

The trouble is that Horowitz said that it was justified. You clearly are taking what was said out of context.

What does “no one was vindicated” mean to you? Horowitz’s words. Not mine.

 

[busybee01]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Are you calling McCabe and the DOJ IG liars? McCabe testified that without the dossier there would have been no warrant, in fact the first one they applied for, without the dossier, was refused. The DOJ IG concluded the same. So take you propaganda and shove it.

.

You are correct. Their collusion hoax to justify spying on the Trump campaign failed when the FISA Court denied the warrant. Then the resubmitted using lies out of the Hillary Purchased Dossier, and then the spy warrant was approved, with 3 - 90 day renewals, all based on the same pack of lies provided the Court by the corrupt DOJ and FBI.

The FISA warrants were obtained AFTER Page left the Trump campaign...

An extensive trove of electronic communications are gathered and stored by the Federal Government with extremely strict rules of when communications of US citizens can be searched. When granted permission to search, it is ALL searched, past and present. And not just the communication of the person named in the FISA warrant, but everyone s/he communicates with and everyone they communicate with. A single warrant can expose 2500 people to electronic spying, so the Carter Page warrant effectively threw a spy blanket over the entire Trump Campaign, Transition and Administration.

...There is nothing corrupt about the FBI and DOJ...

It is completely corrupt. They repeatedly lied, submitted a forged document, deliberately concealed information and swore false oaths in order to be able to obtain an initial spy warrant on Carter Page and to new it 3 times.

... It is Trump who is corrupt.

No one in DC has been as extensively investigated as Trump and yet he still stands completely vindicated of all the smears and charges leveled at him by the Deep State, Anti Trumpers and Lying Fake News Media. It a remarkable and unexpected turn of events, he is effectively certified as the cleanest person in DC.

He has not been vindicated. Mueller says his report did not vindicate Trump. Trump is the most corrupt President we have ever had.

 

[OKTexas]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Are you calling McCabe and the DOJ IG liars? McCabe testified that without the dossier there would have been no warrant, in fact the first one they applied for, without the dossier, was refused. The DOJ IG concluded the same. So take you propaganda and shove it.

.

You are correct. Their collusion hoax to justify spying on the Trump campaign failed when the FISA Court denied the warrant. Then the resubmitted using lies out of the Hillary Purchased Dossier, and then the spy warrant was approved, with 3 - 90 day renewals, all based on the same pack of lies provided the Court by the corrupt DOJ and FBI.

The FISA warrants were obtained AFTER Page left the Trump campaign. There is nothing corrupt about the FBI and DOJ. It is Trump who is corrupt.

And the warrant allowed them to look at his emails and other communications before, during and after his involvement in the campaign. Plus it allowed them to look at anyone he was communicating with. Perhaps you should learn how things actually work before you buy into the commie talking points.

.

 

[Oddball]

Fox News’ Chris Wallace Sets Record Straight: Russia Investigation Did Not Start With Trump Dossier

The Dossier was NOT the basis of either the Carter Page FISA warrant OR the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation (regardless of what Rush Limpdick is claiming)

So we can drop that nonsense...mmmmkay.

Turns out Chris Wallace was full of shit....Just like you.

You and the other Trump supporters are full of shit.

I'm supporting of the truth, which you wouldn't know if it walked up and punched you in the face.

The only fact you know is what Trump tells you to say.

 

[OKTexas]

Can anyone do the "shoe on the other foot test"?

Imagine if Trump paid Russians for a "Dossier" on Hillary full of lies, and that document was used by the FBI to spy on her campaign. Can you imagine the outrage?

This is why Durham needs to get to the bottom of how the Obama admin used Operation Crossfire Hurricane to "break into" the Trump campaign and illegally spy is the biggest scandal in US history.

That crime makes Nixon's "plumbers" look amateur.

That’s almost what Trump is trying to do with Biden’s campaign in Ukraine.

The difference is Obama had no part in this scandal and Trump is at the center of his.

That's only possible if you are also claiming that Obama's CIA/FBI/DNI/DOJ/IC went completely rogue.

They never had sufficient probable cause for a criminal investigation, so they circumvented the 4th amendment by opening a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation. A counter-intelligence investigation is FOR the President, in order to keep him informed of foreign threats.

Are you claiming that the Obama Administration did all this WITHOUT the President's knowledge, and that this is a superior set of affairs than the President directing the activities of the Executive Branch as outlined in Article II?

Yes they did have probable cause. Even the IG admitted this. Russia attempting to subvert our elections is a foreign threat.

And Comey admitted when he was fired they had nothing on the campaign, the case had already fallen apart. That's why Barr is looking into why they continued.

.

 

[Zorro!]

Can anyone do the "shoe on the other foot test"?

Imagine if Trump paid Russians for a "Dossier" on Hillary full of lies, and that document was used by the FBI to spy on her campaign. Can you imagine the outrage?

This is why Durham needs to get to the bottom of how the Obama admin used Operation Crossfire Hurricane to "break into" the Trump campaign and illegally spy is the biggest scandal in US history.

That crime makes Nixon's "plumbers" look amateur.

That’s almost what Trump is trying to do with Biden’s campaign in Ukraine.

The difference is Obama had no part in this scandal and Trump is at the center of his.

That's only possible if you are also claiming that Obama's CIA/FBI/DNI/DOJ/IC went completely rogue.

They never had sufficient probable cause for a criminal investigation, so they circumvented the 4th amendment by opening a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation. A counter-intelligence investigation is FOR the President, in order to keep him informed of foreign threats.

Are you claiming that the Obama Administration did all this WITHOUT the President's knowledge, and that this is a superior set of affairs than the President directing the activities of the Executive Branch as outlined in Article II?

Yes they did have probable cause. Even the IG admitted this. Russia attempting to subvert our elections is a foreign threat.

They have NEVER demonstrated that they had probable cause to open a criminal investigation. The IG merely confirmed that they had probable cause to open a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation, which assuming that the FBI will be staffed with ONLY those of the highest integrity and moral standing, is an extremely low bar to clear.

The IG does not state that they had probable cause to continue the investigation after their case fell apart. That question will be answered by Durham when he releases his report.

But, we have hints, for example, when it takes serial lying and false oaths to procure a warrant and a forged document to get a renewal, that makes a pretty strong case that they did not have probable cause to continue the counter intelligence investigation against the Trump Campaign, Transition and Administration.

 

[colfax_m]

Can anyone do the "shoe on the other foot test"?

Imagine if Trump paid Russians for a "Dossier" on Hillary full of lies, and that document was used by the FBI to spy on her campaign. Can you imagine the outrage?

This is why Durham needs to get to the bottom of how the Obama admin used Operation Crossfire Hurricane to "break into" the Trump campaign and illegally spy is the biggest scandal in US history.

That crime makes Nixon's "plumbers" look amateur.

That’s almost what Trump is trying to do with Biden’s campaign in Ukraine.

The difference is Obama had no part in this scandal and Trump is at the center of his.

That's only possible if you are also claiming that Obama's CIA/FBI/DNI/DOJ/IC went completely rogue.

They never had sufficient probable cause for a criminal investigation, so they circumvented the 4th amendment by opening a COUNTER-INTELLIGENCE investigation. A counter-intelligence investigation is FOR the President, in order to keep him informed of foreign threats.

Are you claiming that the Obama Administration did all this WITHOUT the President's knowledge, and that this is a superior set of affairs than the President directing the activities of the Executive Branch as outlined in Article II?

Yes they did have probable cause. Even the IG admitted this. Russia attempting to subvert our elections is a foreign threat.

And Comey admitted when he was fired they had nothing on the campaign, the case had already fallen apart. That's why Barr is looking into why they continued.

.

Can you provide the source of this claim?

 

[Olde Europe]

Second, I take a different view of Rosenstein's letter.

He had just gotten that Asst. AG job and was requested to write a letter condemning Comey. Comey certainly did have much to criticize and he did so...for good cause. His letter how ever did NOT recommend firing Comey. Read it. It did not.

Two letters were written. One by Rosey and one by Sessions. The Sessions letter recommended firing Comey. Rosey's did not but since Sessions was recused, Trump needed cover and he got it from Rosey's letter. It was a bit of slight of hand that everyone seems to have bought.

The way the Director handled the conclusion of the email investigation was wrong. As a result, the FBI is unlikely to regain public and congressional trust until it has a Director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges never to repeat them. Having refused to admit his errors, the Director cannot be expected to implement the necessary corrective actions.​

Yeah, you can say "Fired" using up a whole paragraph. It still reads "Fired", and there isn't even a hint of ambiguity about it.

BS. The FBI has the trust of the American people. They are not looney tune Trump supporters.

I think you missed what the argument was about. It isn't about the FBI; it is about the conclusion of Rosenstein's letter.