The dude Lia Thomas wins women's NCAA swimming title

[JoeB131]

And I am as against all of those surgeries as I am "gender reassignment surgery", with few exceptions. Breast reconstructive surgery post-mastectomy is one example. Children with cleft lip and palate, amen! People disfigured in accidents or as the result of birth defects, you got it. My elderly Japanese husband could see far better after his blepharoplasty. I was all for that.

Watch the show "Botched" to see the insanity of extreme plastic surgery. Turns my stomach. Those people are as sick as the trannies are.

I was talking about YOUNG Asian people who get blepharoplasties to look less Asian, not people who have legitimate medical needs.

I personally benefited from Bariatric surgery, it probably saved my life.

I have no problem with surgeries to correct defects or even minor cosmetic issues.

As for Gender Confirmation Surgery (I can hear the wingnuts getting triggered) the fact is we have a million trans-gendered people in this country, but only perform 11,000 GCS procedures a year.

 

[DukeU]

Equal rights would mean they WOULD compete in the NBA, NFL, MLB. Setting aside a lower standard for women, and then getting upset that some trans-person has a slight advantage before the hormones kick in, isn't "equality".

They CAN'T compete with men, else they would.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I have no problem with transgenderism, their life they can live it how they feel.

But I do have an issue with them being allowed to compete against biological females in sporting events. The only way it is going to stop is if the athletes themselves stand up against it.

We are starting to see that happen, which is good.

It should never have been thrown on these ladies backs to put an end to this garbage. That’s what the college sports organizations are for. The Athletic Directors, Deans and NCAA should be and should have been the ones to end this farce. These girls have what? One or two years to make an impact on their athletic futures? Olympic team and such? They shouldn’t be the ones having to ruin their career over this while some woke college AD gets paid six figures a year allowing this stupid shit.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It should never have been thrown on these ladies backs to put an end to this garbage. That’s what the college sports organizations are for. The Athletic Directors, Deans and NCAA should be and should have been the ones to end this farce. These girls have what? One or two years to make an impact on their athletic futures? Olympic team and such? They shouldn’t be the ones having to ruin their career over this while some woke college AD gets paid six figures a year allowing this stupid shit.

I agree, they should not but they will have to be. That is the way it has always been. Think of Steve Prefontaine's fight against the AAU.

See post #35 for my view of the NCAA

 

[JoeB131]

You do realize that the studies of someone getting a scholarship aren't taking courses in their sport, right?

Yes, I realize that, Anger Issues.

When I went to college in the 1980's... we had an athletics program because Title IX demanded it, and there was this young lady on the Swim Team... dumber than a stump and had no business being in college, but she could swim fast. Except of course, UIC wasn't a school that was big on athletics... so this was entirely paid for by other student's fees. (and still is 40 years later).

Meanwhile, Joe was working two minimum wage jobs AND serving in the National Guard to pay for his college to pay the fees to keep this useless program going.

Let's cut out the Title IX money and redirect those monies to academic achievement and we'll see how that goes.

 

[JoeB131]

Fair treatment for all means everyone competes with their peers. That's why we don't have college football teams playing Peewee league teams. It's why we don't have Olympic sprinters competing against high schoolers. And, drum roll please, it's why we don't have women competing against men in sports that emphasize strength speed and agility. But of course, if you have a 1950's mentality about women, you don't care.

Okay, in that case, I think we need a league specifically for pudgy, middle aged men because it's totally unfair to me that guys who are more athletic than I am should have all the NBA endorsements!!!

No one would care about female athletics if there wasn't a huge bags of money being thrown about by Title IX.

 

[Lisa558]

It should never have been thrown on these ladies backs to put an end to this garbage. That’s what the college sports organizations are for. The Athletic Directors, Deans and NCAA should be and should have been the ones to end this farce. These girls have what? One or two years to make an impact on their athletic futures? Olympic team and such? They shouldn’t be the ones having to ruin their career over this while some woke college AD gets paid six figures a year allowing this stupid shit.

Also, what’s to keep a high school guy who can’t cut it on a men’s team say he “feels” like a girl, win #1 on the girl’s team, and then get a full-paid athletic scholarship to college?

Sure, he’d get a lot of teasing, and in college he’d had to pretend to be a gay transgender so he could still date women, but with some colleges costing $40,000 a year, I wouldn’t put it past someone.

 

[Hellokitty]

Interesting that the same mutants who are constantly trying to deny women their rights to health care, reproductive rights and fair treatment at work are suddenly rushing out to protect them from 0.3% of the population!!!

I agree women shouldn't be forced to get an experimental covid JAB to keep their jobs....

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Goes back to the point, if you spend your life honing your skills, and you can't beat a mediocre male competitor, what's the point?

Maybe they should hone their skills in practical things that will still be useful for them after the age of 30.

You’re making some ridiculous arguments here but this one… holy shit.

I can’t tell if your out to ruin athletics for just women or actually everyone. You do know 99.99% of ALL athletic careers are over by 30 right? Men, women, all of them.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Fair treatment for all means everyone competes with their peers. That's why we don't have college football teams playing Peewee league teams. It's why we don't have Olympic sprinters competing against high schoolers. And, drum roll please, it's why we don't have women competing against men in sports that emphasize strength speed and agility. But of course, if you have a 1950's mentality about women, you don't care.

Joe is a very special combination of utter stupidity and pure evil.


He is a sociopath who neither understands the concept of fairness nor is concerned at all with it

 

[Jets]

I have no problem with transgenderism, their life they can live it how they feel.

But I do have an issue with them being allowed to compete against biological females in sporting events. The only way it is going to stop is if the athletes themselves stand up against it.

We are starting to see that happen, which is good.

Agreed and well said.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Also, what’s to keep a high school guy who can’t cut it on a men’s team say he “feels” like a girl, win #1 on the girl’s team, and then get a full-paid athletic scholarship to college?

Sure, he’d get a lot of teasing, and in college he’d had to pretend to be a gay transgender so he could still date women, but with some colleges costing $40,000 a year, I wouldn’t put it past someone.

Because it is not just about them saying so, they have to undergo treatments for a set period of time to qualify even now, they have to have a testosterone levels below a set amount.

Nobody is going to do that just on a whim.

I am against them being allowed to compete with biologic women, but your argument lacks any knowledge on the subject

 

[CowboyTed]

Or we have a sense of perspective.

Why do we have women's athletics? Mostly because we created something called Title IX that required schools to create women's athletics programs that no one cared about and give out scholarships for them. In short, it allowed women to game the system. Awesome. So one trans-woman learns to game the system that other people were gaming, and I just can't get all that upset about it.




Um, yeah, not winning a little plastic trophy is just like being a victim of genocide!!!

Should point out that the Nazis were hardly socialist, despite their name. They were completely in bed with Germany's capitalists, where German and American companies did very well in the Nazi Regime. Henry Ford and Hitler had a serious bromance up until the war started.



Or we recognize that in the quest for fair treatment for all, there are going to be bumps in the road.

The biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action have been white women, but white women are the ones complaining the loudest about it.

98% of college students will not get athletic scholarships. of the 2% who do, their chances of actually having to compete against a trans athlete are negligible.

This just isn't a crisis, other than you guys playing on Transphobia to make it one.

The time set by lia was 10 seconds off the World record and she beat the silver Olympic medalist...

I think this is just transpobhic more than anything else...

Look at the complainers here... They refuse even to call Lia a woman... They are not talking about equality in sports which is understandable...

 

[ColonelAngus]

Or we have a sense of perspective.

Why do we have women's athletics? Mostly because we created something called Title IX that required schools to create women's athletics programs that no one cared about and give out scholarships for them. In short, it allowed women to game the system. Awesome. So one trans-woman learns to game the system that other people were gaming, and I just can't get all that upset about it.




Um, yeah, not winning a little plastic trophy is just like being a victim of genocide!!!

Should point out that the Nazis were hardly socialist, despite their name. They were completely in bed with Germany's capitalists, where German and American companies did very well in the Nazi Regime. Henry Ford and Hitler had a serious bromance up until the war started.



Or we recognize that in the quest for fair treatment for all, there are going to be bumps in the road.

The biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action have been white women, but white women are the ones complaining the loudest about it.

98% of college students will not get athletic scholarships. of the 2% who do, their chances of actually having to compete against a trans athlete are negligible.

This just isn't a crisis, other than you guys playing on Transphobia to make it one.

You are a misogynist. It cracks me up when you lefties and your false logic hypocrisy bites you in the ass.

I am all for trannies taking over all women’s sports.

You fuckheads set this up, and its the logical conclusion.

Congratulations.

 

[j-mac]

Yes, I realize that, Anger Issues.

When I went to college in the 1980's... we had an athletics program because Title IX demanded it, and there was this young lady on the Swim Team... dumber than a stump and had no business being in college, but she could swim fast. Except of course, UIC wasn't a school that was big on athletics... so this was entirely paid for by other student's fees. (and still is 40 years later).

Meanwhile, Joe was working two minimum wage jobs AND serving in the National Guard to pay for his college to pay the fees to keep this useless program going.

Let's cut out the Title IX money and redirect those monies to academic achievement and we'll see how that goes.

Why? Don’t you believe women have just as much right to compete?

 

[JoeB131]

Also, what’s to keep a high school guy who can’t cut it on a men’s team say he “feels” like a girl, win #1 on the girl’s team, and then get a full-paid athletic scholarship to college?

Sure, he’d get a lot of teasing, and in college he’d had to pretend to be a gay transgender so he could still date women, but with some colleges costing $40,000 a year, I wouldn’t put it past someone.

Hold on, aren't you the one who gets on here every fucking day whining that AA policies admit blacks with lower test scores...

but you are all for women getting scholarships for being inferior athletes compared to men?

Joe is a very special combination of utter stupidity and pure evil.


He is a sociopath who neither understands the concept of fairness nor is concerned at all with it

I'm the fairest guy in the world... I just don't have a high tolerance for fake moral outrage.

But fake moral outrage is all the right wing has. Otherwise, they'd be forced to run on the "I want you to work harder for less money so the rich can get richer" platform, and even the most stupid right winger wouldn't vote for that.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The time set by lia was 10 seconds off the World record and she beat the silver Olympic medalist...

I think this is just transpobhic more than anything else...

Look at the complainers here... They refuse even to call Lia a woman... They are not talking about equality in sports which is understandable...

Lia also turned around and came in 5th in the 200. In swimming the advantage is lessened as the distances get shorter. I think the opposite is true in running events, though I lack the data to prove it.

 

[2aguy]

Yeap and people starting to speak out. Then again I will bet most of those speaking out speak out loudly in support of transgenderism.

The left always want it both ways. They are all woke for thee but not for me people. Meaning, until the policies they support effect them, they are unable to see their absurdity. Often times throughout history not until its too damn late.

Look at the German socialists supporting their dear socialist leader in the 30s and then finding afterwards what the socialist policies really were about.

That's the clear example the left always bring up every moment of every day right? Except like usual the point they think they are making through their sniveling spoiled minds is the exact opposite.

Sigh....so a dude won the women's swimming and named woman's athlete of the year and another dude named woman of the year.

Lol at the left and all of their stupidity.

I bet all the girls on that team would have proudly denounced anyone who questioned this sexual dysphoria......until it really started to impact them...

We warned them.....they didn't listen, now the democrats are destroying the thing these girls have worked for their entire lives.......

Sometimes it is hard to feel sorry for the victims of democrat party/leftist insanity when these victims are so vicious toward those trying to warn them...

 

[2aguy]

Hold on, aren't you the one who gets on here every fucking day whining that AA policies admit blacks with lower test scores...

but you are all for women getting scholarships for being inferior athletes compared to men?



I'm the fairest guy in the world... I just don't have a high tolerance for fake moral outrage.

But fake moral outrage is all the right wing has. Otherwise, they'd be forced to run on the "I want you to work harder for less money so the rich can get richer" platform, and even the most stupid right winger wouldn't vote for that.

No....you dumb ass.....

These are women sports...for women......not men....this dude is going into a woman's sport with his male advantages and taking away the rewards of their sport...you dumb ass......

You leftists are so dishonest and evil it is hard to comprehend sometimes...

 

[2aguy]

Right. Here's the thing. Most women will never get anywhere near standing on one of those platforms.

Most women will need access to contraception or abortion, will work in a job where their male bosses won't pay or promote them equally, or do other things that the Goons of Plutocracy and their religious right quislings are fine with. They will need access to head start and programs for their children that Republicans try to cut to give tax breaks to rich people.

But by all means, scream hysterically, "They're coming for our PRONOUNS!!!"

Wow....you really are stupid.....the majority of college degrees now go to women...women who work the same hours as single men with families are outperforming single men......you have nothing that backs up what you believe.....but you post with such confidence....