The Farce of CDC Spending

Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.
 
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.
 
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.
 
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No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.
 
Yet the cdc has since changed their own protocal...
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.
 
Yet the cdc has since changed their own protocal...
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.

Irrelevant to the fact that the Texas Hospital had adequate warning but chose to ignore it instead.
 
If he had been admitted earlier, the same nurses would have had the same exposure they had. Nothing would have changed for them.
Yet the cdc has since changed their own protocal...
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.

Irrelevant to the fact that the Texas Hospital had adequate warning but chose to ignore it instead.
 
Okay then, can you refute a single claim in the article? Just one?

Sure. Your source was clueless as to why the CDC was studying firearm deaths.

Why is the CDC studying gun violence and wasting efforts on helmet laws you ask?

I have absolutely no idea.

The CDC was banned by Republicans from studying firearm deaths. The result of that ban was that the NRA was allowed free reign to spread it's pro gun propaganda unchallenged. The CDC is now doing studies to determine the causes of firearm deaths in order to determine if there are safe and effective means to reduce them.





Firearms deaths are not due to a disease. Thus the CDC is engaging in "studies" with a purely political motivation. If they actually wanted to do something that would reduce the number of deaths and that actually DID exist within their purview they could look at the number of deaths due to medical misdiagnosis, faulty prescriptions, infections transmitted within hospitals etc. All of which are responsible for THREE TIMES the number of gun deaths, and most of which are totally preventable.

Mental illness is a disease just like any other. The fact that it not only results in tens of thousands on individual deaths (suicides by firearms) each year but is also resulting in the deaths of innocent victims via mass shootings on an every increasing scale makes it relevant to study.

From the POV of a gun owner if there is a way to reduce these firearm deaths with medical treatment then that has got to be a good thing since it will eliminate some of the stigma that has become attached to owning guns. Simply by preventing suicides that could reduce firearm deaths by 2/3rd every year. That has got to be something that you would support. I know that I do.




Mental illness is not a disease just like any other. Mental illnesses can not be cured. Some can be mitigated by the administration of drugs but they can't be "cured". Studying mental illness is the purview of the two APA's, not the CDC. The failings of the CDC in this most recent fiasco illustrates what happens when you choose political activism over actual work.

Firstly it is possible to cure clinical depression.

Secondly not every physical disease can be cured either but that doesn't mean that researchers simply give up trying to find treatments and cures.

Since we have an ongoing death toll of tens of thousands each year from mental illness that causes the loss of life to innocent bystanders as well it is serious enough to warrant the attention of the CDC.




No, it's not. We can treat it and we can monitor the individual who suffers from it to intervene before they begin a downward spiral, but as we have witnessed over and over again, clinical depression is something we have a handle on but we are far from curing it. Further, if you really wanted to reduce the number of deaths then attacking the issues within the MEDICAL FIELD will have a greater effect, faster than wasting time on back door gun control legislation (which is what the CDC is attempting.

Your argument falls flat on its face due to that simple fact.
 
Yet the cdc has since changed their own protocal...
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.

Irrelevant to the fact that the Texas Hospital had adequate warning but chose to ignore it instead.




And once again the CDC didn't bother to send a rep till AFTER the man had died. Why is that? I would think that there would have been a line of people from the CDC clamoring for the privilege to go see for themselves the first case of one of the most interesting and destructive diseases on the planet. That's like a bunch of scientists at JPL staying home when a probe does a fly by of a asteroid for the first time. It simply doesn't compute.
 
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

No I'm sorry. You are caring for a patient who dies of Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever, you know that the first symptom to show is a fever, you get a fever shortly after and yet you travel? That is criminal irresponsibility.
 
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Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

As a healthcare provider who routinely cares for patients with communicable diseases, I can tell you with certainty that the nurses screwed up. I see it all the time. People get careless.

70+ people took care of that patient until he died, only two get infected. That tells you it's human error.
 
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

ERs don't need to be equipped with hazmat gear. The virus isn't easily transmitted in its early stages. That is why all if the people in the ER on Duncan's first trip there aren't infected. The nurses were in full protective gear, they screwed it up and got infected.
 
I never abdicated any responsibility from Amber. What I did do is brjng to light the fact she got permission to fly from the cdc , which they felt was ok at the time. They should have never ever allowed anyone exposed to fly, even without fever, much less with it.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

No I'm sorry. You are caring for a patient who dies if Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever, you know that the first symptom to show is a fever, you get a fever shortly after and yet you travel? That is criminal irresponsibility.
 
That has still not been proven. The cdc did not originally sugeest haz mat for the nurses treating the patient. If you had watched the hearing you would have seen Frieden being questioned on just that. The committee had printouts of pictures and list of what the cdc said to use-which left the neck exposed. After they came down with the ebola, they then changed the protocol.
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

ERs don't need to be equipped with hazmat gear. The virus isn't easily transmitted in its early stages. That is why all if the people in the ER on Duncan's first trip there aren't infected. The nurses were in full protective gear, they screwed it up and got infected.
 
I never abdicated any responsibility from Amber. What I did do is brjng to light the fact she got permission to fly from the cdc , which they felt was ok at the time. They should have never ever allowed anyone exposed to fly, even without fever, much less with it.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
Wasting YOUR tax money on studying violent video games. Helmet laws. Reducing the Impact of Green Tobacco Sickness among Latino Farmworkers. The CDC believes this can be done through neighborhood transformation by “increasing access to healthy foods by supporting local farmers and developing neighborhood grocery stores,” and “promoting improvements in sidewalks and street lighting to make it safe and easy for people to walk and ride bikes.”


Just how much has gone into this garbage – instead of studying how to control diseases?


Read more @ Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control


Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster @ Ebola has revealed that the CDC is a disaster Hot Air

From your article, I have learned,

While the nurses in Texas were dealing with an Ebola patient without protocols and proper equipment, the CDC continued to claim the protocols were in place and the hospitals in the U.S. were ready.

That the Center for Disease Control...
has received just under $3 billion in transfers from the fund. Yet only 6 percent—$180 million—of that $3 billion went toward building epidemiology and laboratory capacity...

That the Center for Disease Control...where
Protecting Americans got $180 million while community transformation got $517.3 million!...

The cherry on the sundae, and this is according to both the Washington Post andNY Post, the CDC misused funds awarded by Congress. A $7.5 million grant slated for research on the hantavirus, for instance, went instead to other programs of their choosing. The problem is they were supposed to go back to Congress to get the okay but didn’t.

That the Center for Disease Control...
If they’re working 24/7 to protect Americans from harm – and Dr. Frieden did say the motto is ‘Do no harm’ – then they’d better get cracking and I don’t mean by conducting more studies on guns and tobacco or promoting bike lane construction.

The Center for Disease Control...
Like all of Obama’s agencies, they do what Mr. Obama wants and, when it goes awry, no one is held accountable.

Doug Ross Journal Center for Disease Control Spent 3 Times as Much on Community Transformation Than On... Disease Control

Why hasn't Obama replaced Dr. Friedman for lack if effectiveness during this crisis if for nothing else, no protocols in place to protect medical staff? He can't find him. If he'd look in his back pocket he'd find him.

The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

No I'm sorry. You are caring for a patient who dies if Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever, you know that the first symptom to show is a fever, you get a fever shortly after and yet you travel? That is criminal irresponsibility.

I'm just pointing out that a nurse should know better.
 
That has still not been proven. The cdc did not originally sugeest haz mat for the nurses treating the patient. If you had watched the hearing you would have seen Frieden being questioned on just that. The committee had printouts of pictures and list of what the cdc said to use-which left the neck exposed. After they came down with the ebola, they then changed the protocol.
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Actually, if you had watched the hearing, you would have heard Frieden state they have been changing protocal from the time Duncan became ill as they saw fit. Do recall, they told Amber she could fly, then tried to blame her for flying. They changed the temperature threshold to look for, they originally did not include the healthcare workers to be under contacts, etc.
The CDC issued the appropriate warnings and recommendations for the protocols to deal with Ebola back in June or July of this year.

The hospital in Texas failed to train anyone on those protocols.

It wasn't the CDC that was at fault for the failure to follow the protocols.

Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

ERs don't need to be equipped with hazmat gear. The virus isn't easily transmitted in its early stages. That is why all if the people in the ER on Duncan's first trip there aren't infected. The nurses were in full protective gear, they screwed it up and got infected.

Politicians and courts of law need things to be proven. I do not. I have been a healthcare worker for 32 years. I have had to don all manner if protective gear against all manner of infectious diseases, including some viruses that are more infectious than Ebola. People get sloppy, careless and in a hurry. They screw it up and get infected. I've seen many many nurses and doctors with poor habits.

70+ people took care of that patient yet only 2 got infected. That isn't equipment failure, that's human error.
 
Sure. Your source was clueless as to why the CDC was studying firearm deaths.

The CDC was banned by Republicans from studying firearm deaths. The result of that ban was that the NRA was allowed free reign to spread it's pro gun propaganda unchallenged. The CDC is now doing studies to determine the causes of firearm deaths in order to determine if there are safe and effective means to reduce them.





Firearms deaths are not due to a disease. Thus the CDC is engaging in "studies" with a purely political motivation. If they actually wanted to do something that would reduce the number of deaths and that actually DID exist within their purview they could look at the number of deaths due to medical misdiagnosis, faulty prescriptions, infections transmitted within hospitals etc. All of which are responsible for THREE TIMES the number of gun deaths, and most of which are totally preventable.

Mental illness is a disease just like any other. The fact that it not only results in tens of thousands on individual deaths (suicides by firearms) each year but is also resulting in the deaths of innocent victims via mass shootings on an every increasing scale makes it relevant to study.

From the POV of a gun owner if there is a way to reduce these firearm deaths with medical treatment then that has got to be a good thing since it will eliminate some of the stigma that has become attached to owning guns. Simply by preventing suicides that could reduce firearm deaths by 2/3rd every year. That has got to be something that you would support. I know that I do.




Mental illness is not a disease just like any other. Mental illnesses can not be cured. Some can be mitigated by the administration of drugs but they can't be "cured". Studying mental illness is the purview of the two APA's, not the CDC. The failings of the CDC in this most recent fiasco illustrates what happens when you choose political activism over actual work.

Firstly it is possible to cure clinical depression.

Secondly not every physical disease can be cured either but that doesn't mean that researchers simply give up trying to find treatments and cures.

Since we have an ongoing death toll of tens of thousands each year from mental illness that causes the loss of life to innocent bystanders as well it is serious enough to warrant the attention of the CDC.




No, it's not. We can treat it and we can monitor the individual who suffers from it to intervene before they begin a downward spiral, but as we have witnessed over and over again, clinical depression is something we have a handle on but we are far from curing it. Further, if you really wanted to reduce the number of deaths then attacking the issues within the MEDICAL FIELD will have a greater effect, faster than wasting time on back door gun control legislation (which is what the CDC is attempting.

Your argument falls flat on its face due to that simple fact.

As someone who has had a bout of clinical depression and am now completely cured of it I can attest to the fact that it is curable.

Secondly your own personal belief that the CDC is in engaged in "back door gun control legislation" has nothing to do with reality. The CDC does not write legislation. They study diseases, both mental and physical, and from those they come with ways to deal with them. Identifying people who are at risk for suicide and providing intervention, counseling and treatment have nothing whatsoever to do with your imaginary "back door gun control legislation".

Not everything is about guns. The paranoia of the NRA should probably be studied and a treatment found but that is a lower priority than dealing with suicides. Preventing 20,000 needless deaths each and every year should be a priority for those who profess to be "pro-life".
 
Yet the cdc has since changed their own protocal...
No it wouldn't. If you think hospital emergency rooms today are sitting there outfitted in hazard gear to see all patients, you are deluded. And original protocal did not include haz mat gear with respirator when those nurses cared for Duncan. Cdc has stated they don't know that protocal was broken. Frieden backtracked, stating, protocal at the time was used, and they have now changed it-not that the nurses broke protocal.
Had the Texas hospital acted on the original Ebola warning the protocol would have already been in place to prevent those nurses from being infected in the first place.

The CDC recommended that hospitals engage in practice exercises to handle potential Ebola cases. The Texas hospital admitted that they had done zero training since receiving the CDC recommendation.

Irrelevant to the fact that the Texas Hospital had adequate warning but chose to ignore it instead.




And once again the CDC didn't bother to send a rep till AFTER the man had died. Why is that? I would think that there would have been a line of people from the CDC clamoring for the privilege to go see for themselves the first case of one of the most interesting and destructive diseases on the planet. That's like a bunch of scientists at JPL staying home when a probe does a fly by of a asteroid for the first time. It simply doesn't compute.

If it doesn't compute perhaps you should check your facts. Why did the CDC need to "send a rep" once the diagnosis was confirmed? The hospital had already been provided with the protocol. The CDC is not responsible for going to all 4000 hospitals in the nation to see of they are doing their jobs.

Sounds to me like you are getting disinformation about the role of the CDC.
 
Firearms deaths are not due to a disease. Thus the CDC is engaging in "studies" with a purely political motivation. If they actually wanted to do something that would reduce the number of deaths and that actually DID exist within their purview they could look at the number of deaths due to medical misdiagnosis, faulty prescriptions, infections transmitted within hospitals etc. All of which are responsible for THREE TIMES the number of gun deaths, and most of which are totally preventable.

Mental illness is a disease just like any other. The fact that it not only results in tens of thousands on individual deaths (suicides by firearms) each year but is also resulting in the deaths of innocent victims via mass shootings on an every increasing scale makes it relevant to study.

From the POV of a gun owner if there is a way to reduce these firearm deaths with medical treatment then that has got to be a good thing since it will eliminate some of the stigma that has become attached to owning guns. Simply by preventing suicides that could reduce firearm deaths by 2/3rd every year. That has got to be something that you would support. I know that I do.




Mental illness is not a disease just like any other. Mental illnesses can not be cured. Some can be mitigated by the administration of drugs but they can't be "cured". Studying mental illness is the purview of the two APA's, not the CDC. The failings of the CDC in this most recent fiasco illustrates what happens when you choose political activism over actual work.

Firstly it is possible to cure clinical depression.

Secondly not every physical disease can be cured either but that doesn't mean that researchers simply give up trying to find treatments and cures.

Since we have an ongoing death toll of tens of thousands each year from mental illness that causes the loss of life to innocent bystanders as well it is serious enough to warrant the attention of the CDC.




No, it's not. We can treat it and we can monitor the individual who suffers from it to intervene before they begin a downward spiral, but as we have witnessed over and over again, clinical depression is something we have a handle on but we are far from curing it. Further, if you really wanted to reduce the number of deaths then attacking the issues within the MEDICAL FIELD will have a greater effect, faster than wasting time on back door gun control legislation (which is what the CDC is attempting.

Your argument falls flat on its face due to that simple fact.

As someone who has had a bout of clinical depression and am now completely cured of it I can attest to the fact that it is curable.

Secondly your own personal belief that the CDC is in engaged in "back door gun control legislation" has nothing to do with reality. The CDC does not write legislation. They study diseases, both mental and physical, and from those they come with ways to deal with them. Identifying people who are at risk for suicide and providing intervention, counseling and treatment have nothing whatsoever to do with your imaginary "back door gun control legislation".

Not everything is about guns. The paranoia of the NRA should probably be studied and a treatment found but that is a lower priority than dealing with suicides. Preventing 20,000 needless deaths each and every year should be a priority for those who profess to be "pro-life".




Clinical Depression comes in a couple of forms (I checked with my wife) that induced by trauma which can indeed be cured, and 'systemic depression' which cannot. Congrats on beating it. She tells me it is hard work. Any research on gun deaths as a "mental health" issue, or as a disease is political in nature. There is a long history of the AMA and its efforts at gun control regulation and the CDC's research is merely a furtherance of that goal.
 

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