Bolton : "This is madness. Trump has no idea how he ´ll negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine" I Gen. Hodges: " Beating Moscow is Our Only Choice "

[CrusaderFrank]

I wish General Hodges would talk to Trump. Trump doesn't read, he thinks he knows it all. So did Neville Chamberlain.

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Look, the WEF gambled on installing Zelen$ky to get the resources of both Russia and Ukraine. The USA orchestrated and funded installing Zelen$ky. BlackRock got Zelen$ky to sign away Ukraine $12Trillion in resources and it didn’t cost them anything out of pocket

It’s just bad luck that the CIA woefully underestimated Russia commitment and military capability otherwise it would have been a $100 Trillion payday for Fink and BlackRock

 

[Bleipriester]

What contradicting words?

From your post:
However, earlier reports in the media said that Trump privately talked about ending Russia’s war by pressuring Ukraine to cede Crimea and Donbas to Moscow. He also publicly said in May 2023 that he would not commit to providing Ukraine with defense assistance if he won the 2024 election."

He was also quoted saying that Russia´s peace conditions aren´t acceptable. So we have no idea what will happen next year, if Trump is reelected.

 

[PredFan]

i see, do you agree with Gen. Hodges? " Beating Moscow empire is Our Only Choice "

No. Trump will negotiate an end to the war.

 

[PredFan]

yes, one of many the mainstream Republicans

Spineless war-mongering RINOs, all of them. They need to be gone.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

No. Trump will negotiate an end to the war.

He will cut off Zelensky's gravy train and stop this ridiculous slaughter.

By the way, for you democrats who don't get it...
THAT IS OUR MONEY -- 175 BILLION DOLLARS stolen from us and given to a corrupt money laundering operation.
It ain't about saving democracy!


How much money has the US sent Ukraine?

From the total $175 billion in U.S. spending, $107 billion worth of aid goes to the government of Ukraine. Weapons and equipment are provided through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, Presidential Drawdown Authority,* and Foreign Military Financing Program.

 

[kyzr]

He was also quoted saying that Russia´s peace conditions aren´t acceptable. So we have no idea what will happen next year, if Trump is reelected.

From your post:
Trump will push for a peace deal where Russia gets Crimea and Donbas, and Ukraine gets into NATO.

If Russia says no, then we keep funding Ukraine as we lower the price of oil and gas to starve Putin of cash.
If Zelensky says no, then we tell him US funding is cut off until he says yes.

Trump may even have more cards to play.

 

[Litwin]

1. I totally agree with Trump that giving Russia Crimea and Donbas for peace is a win-win.

2. Crimea was Russia's until Kruschev gave it to Ukraine in 1954.

3. Donbas are Russian speakers.

4. Ukraine would then be entered into NATO guaranteeing their long term security. 5. Trump has a great peace plan.

1. so you say that appeasement will work this time ?
2. RT.ru imperialistic myth . it was a collective politburo decision

3. RT.ru imperialistic myth they speak - Surzhik (simple Ukranien language ) speakers . still, following your logic , US belongs to England ?

4. agree on this .

5. Trump has no plan. Moscow empire has one :

Moscow : "I want the Moscow empire with Alaska, Hawaii, California, Finland and Poland. Although Poland and Finland are so stinky,

so they want more this time, Alaska, Hawaii, California, ... you guys (US) are provoking Mongol - Muscovites with your weakness . If they want an land corridor from Alaska to California they also want British Columbia, Washington State and Oregon.... "I want the Moscow empire with Alaska...

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[DGS49]

When Trump wins, he will DEFINITELY negotiate an end to the conflict in Ukraine. It will DEFINITELY involve Ukraine giving up some territory - mainly territory with ethnic Russian majorities.

So what? Ukraine, like Palestine, is a made-up country, contrived by Nikita Kruschev in the early 50's. There is NO ISSUE over there that justifies the carnage on either side. All the money spent so far has been wasted.

Thank you Joe Biden.

 

[Litwin]

If Russia says no, then we keep funding Ukraine as we lower the price of oil and gas to starve Putin of cash.

we ´d blackmail XI he owns Moscow empire nowadays . We can reword China with outer Manchuria (in reality , we ´ll support the local Ukrainians and Siberian natives )

China “Invasion Threat” Gives Sleepless Nights To Moscow empire; Moscow Held Wargames For Six Years – Leaked Docs.

THERE is the only one "Unequal Treaty" Which remains in force today, Which one ? and What does it mean for Moscow ?)
Outer Manchuria, refers to a region of Moscow empire [1] in Northeast Asia that historically formed part of Manchuria, and now constitutes the southern part of the Moscow empire Far East. Manchuria, which more normatively refers to Northeast China, originally included areas in present-day Moscow Manchuria. Control of areas within the region was ceded to the Moscow Empire by the Qing China during the Amur Annexation in the 1858 Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking, with the term 'Moscow Manchuria' arising after the Moscow annexation.

 

[Litwin]

ethnic Russian majorities.

what are you talking about ?

 

[Litwin]

Ukraine, like Palestine, is a made-up country, contrived by Nikita Kruschev in the early 50's.

did you get this PROPAGANDA crap from RT.RU FORUM ?

 

[Litwin]

He will cut off Zelensky's gravy train and stop this ridiculous slaughter.

By the way, for you democrats who don't get it...
THAT IS OUR MONEY -- 175 BILLION DOLLARS stolen from us and given to a corrupt money laundering operation.
It ain't about saving democracy!


How much money has the US sent Ukraine?

From the total $175 billion in U.S. spending, $107 billion worth of aid goes to the government of Ukraine. Weapons and equipment are provided through the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, Presidential Drawdown Authority,* and Foreign Military Financing Program.

ONE FOR sure. Trump(and his lovers) is not a Republican. Trump destroyed the Republican Party.

 

[Litwin]

Spineless war-mongering RINOs, all of them. They need to be gone.

Republicans were against Moscow imperialistic , jihadi aggression. Now Trump says he’s fine if Moscow invaded our NATO allies if they don’t pay enough. How can ANY longtime @GOP member support him as head of the Republican Party?

 

[Litwin]

1. I totally agree with Trump that giving Russia Crimea and Donbas for peace is a win-win.

2. Crimea was Russia's until Kruschev gave it to Ukraine in 1954.

3. Donbas are Russian speakers.

4. Ukraine would then be entered into NATO guaranteeing their long term security. Trump has a great peace plan.

ps, any comment on this ?

Trump " I would bomb Moscow in the event of an attack on Ukraine if I were president" - The Washington Post.

Trump " I would bomb Moscow in the event of an attack on Ukraine if he were president" - The Washington Post. TRUMP HAS a valid point here, Moscow imperial wars have always been triggered by our weak language and even weaker actions ! Do you agree with the Republican presidential nominee ?

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[CrazyTrader55]

Republicans were against Moscow imperialistic , jihadi aggression. Now Trump says he’s fine if Moscow invaded our NATO allies if they don’t pay enough. How can ANY longtime @GOP member support him as head of the Republican Party?

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Well, Ukraine isn't in NATO.

Your post fails.

How many more Ukranians and Russians need to be killed in this slaughter?

 

[PredFan]

Republicans were against Moscow imperialistic , jihadi aggression. Now Trump says he’s fine if Moscow invaded our NATO allies if they don’t pay enough. How can ANY longtime @GOP member support him as head of the Republican Party?

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100% bull shit.

 

[kyzr]

1. so you say that appeasement will work this time ?
2. RT.ru imperialistic myth . it was a collective politburo decision

3. RT.ru imperialistic myth they speak - Surzhik (simple Ukranien language ) speakers . still, following your logic , US belongs to England ?

4. agree on this .

5. Trump has no plan. Moscow empire has one :

1. Not appeasement, its a peace plan. The alternative is Russia wins. Choose wisely.

2. OK, so Russia gave Crimea to Ukraine back in 1954

3. In 2014 Russia had Donbas, so Ukraine is not losing anything

4. ok, we agree on Ukraine being admitted into NATO

5. Moscow can't even capture Ukraine dummy. They are no match for NATO and they know it.
Trump has a plan, Crimea and Donbas to Russia for Ukraine's admission into NATO.

 

[Bleipriester]

From your post:
Trump will push for a peace deal where Russia gets Crimea and Donbas, and Ukraine gets into NATO.

If Russia says no, then we keep funding Ukraine as we lower the price of oil and gas to starve Putin of cash.
If Zelensky says no, then we tell him US funding is cut off until he says yes.

Trump may even have more cards to play.

Dunno if that works. Biden did already request Saudi Arabia and all of OPEC to lower the price for the same reason. They turnend him down.

 

[kyzr]

Dunno if that works. Biden did already request Saudi Arabia and all of OPEC to lower the price for the same reason. They turned him down.

If Trump expands US oil & gas production, plus adds ANWR and the KeystoneXL pipeline the price of energy should drop.

 

[Litwin]

putin is asking hunters in Kamchatka and Buryatia (natives) regions to turn in their rifles and ammo so they can be used in the invasion of Ukraine.

The 3-day special military operation must be doing well. what is behind ?Moscow is disarming the indigenous peoples of Occupied Siberia, looks like Siberian uprising is on the way ...

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