The great transformation robots will displace 20 million jobs by 2030

[MindWars]

A new report by Oxford Economics says accelerating technological advances in automation, engineering, energy storage, artificial intelligence, and machine learning have the potential to reshape the world in the 2020s through 2030. The collision of these forces could trigger economic disruption far greater than what was seen in the early 20th century.
The Great Transformation: Robots Will Displace 20 Million Jobs By 2030
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These forces are going to come faster than you even know......................... imagine the dumb-asses who laugh because they think this is sooo far away.

 

[Confounding]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

 

[MarathonMike]

I don't know what the answer is, but I agree automation is a juggernaut that will not be stopped. It will drastically reduce the need for low skilled labor.

 

[Confounding]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

 

[MisterBeale]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

They won't do shit till the white collar jobs start being replaced by AI, or until folks are rioting.

I really think the Deep State wants folks to start rioting. It gives a great excuse for Martial Law.



Part of me thinks a lot of the corporate media has purposely been exaggerating the scope of the "immigrant crisis," so that when these societal displacements inevitably come, they have a tangible target to blame it on. It is an old canard for the ruling class.

I'm not saying there isn't truly a lawless illegal alien problem, but it is probably being purposely engineered. Once everyone has trouble finding work, the aliens will go home.

The Romans used it, and the fascists used it. This strategy of tension started with the election of Obama, they made sure it continued by giving Trump a platform, having the media give him so much airtime. Turning race against race, straight against gay, men against women, young against old, everything but the having to seek real solutions to intractable problems that are overwhelming the policy wonks.

They are looking at history here.

It is far easier to get society to turn on itself and declare martial law, than to have it turn on the elites and have an entire reordering of the system.

These elites like their positions of power. The only thing they want is a system where they get MORE power. They will never engineer a system that gives the people more freedom, fraternity, civil liberties and civil rights, and more economic and social equality. They don't give two shits about a real free market, crony capitalism and socialism for the rich has gotten them this far, why would they voluntarily surrender it now?

 

[MarathonMike]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

 

[MisterBeale]

I don't know what the answer is, but I agree automation is a juggernaut that will not be stopped. It will drastically reduce the need for low skilled labor.

From what I am reading and hearing, it will replace any type of labor that is repetitive.

Accounts, lawyers, some types of doctors. . . .


A whole lot of folks are going to be replaced in the next couple decades that we just can't grapple with right now.

 

[MisterBeale]

I'd recommend this read.

 

[Confounding]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

You're right. AI capable of creative thought is something that I assume will eventually exist. I could be wrong.

 

[Confounding]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

They won't do shit till the white collar jobs start being replaced by AI, or until folks are rioting.

I really think the Deep State wants folks to start rioting. It gives a great excuse for Martial Law.



Part of me thinks a lot of the corporate media has purposely been exaggerating the scope of the "immigrant crisis," so that when these societal displacements inevitably come, they have a tangible target to blame it on. It is an old canard for the ruling class.

I'm not saying there isn't truly a lawless illegal alien problem, but it is probably being purposely engineered. Once everyone has trouble finding work, the aliens will go home.

The Romans used it, and the fascists used it. This strategy of tension started with the election of Obama, they made sure it continued by giving Trump a platform, having the media give him so much airtime. Turning race against race, straight against gay, men against women, young against old, everything but the having to seek real solutions to intractable problems that are overwhelming the policy wonks.

They are looking at history here.

It is far easier to get society to turn on itself and declare martial law, than to have it turn on the elites and have an entire reordering of the system.

These elites like their positions of power. The only thing they want is a system where they get MORE power. They will never engineer a system that gives the people more freedom, fraternity, civil liberties and civil rights, and more economic and social equality. They don't give two shits about a real free market, crony capitalism and socialism for the rich has gotten them this far, why would they voluntarily surrender it now?

The sinister forces that pit us against each other will lose in the end because good outnumbers evil by a lot.

Humanity is good and worthy, and our path forward will reflect that. That is what I believe.

 

[MisterBeale]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

No. ..

They have AI now that is creating art and composing symphonies. It is doing music for TV and movies.

 

[MisterBeale]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

They won't do shit till the white collar jobs start being replaced by AI, or until folks are rioting.

I really think the Deep State wants folks to start rioting. It gives a great excuse for Martial Law.



Part of me thinks a lot of the corporate media has purposely been exaggerating the scope of the "immigrant crisis," so that when these societal displacements inevitably come, they have a tangible target to blame it on. It is an old canard for the ruling class.

I'm not saying there isn't truly a lawless illegal alien problem, but it is probably being purposely engineered. Once everyone has trouble finding work, the aliens will go home.

The Romans used it, and the fascists used it. This strategy of tension started with the election of Obama, they made sure it continued by giving Trump a platform, having the media give him so much airtime. Turning race against race, straight against gay, men against women, young against old, everything but the having to seek real solutions to intractable problems that are overwhelming the policy wonks.

They are looking at history here.

It is far easier to get society to turn on itself and declare martial law, than to have it turn on the elites and have an entire reordering of the system.

These elites like their positions of power. The only thing they want is a system where they get MORE power. They will never engineer a system that gives the people more freedom, fraternity, civil liberties and civil rights, and more economic and social equality. They don't give two shits about a real free market, crony capitalism and socialism for the rich has gotten them this far, why would they voluntarily surrender it now?

The sinister forces that pit us against each other will lose in the end because good outnumbers evil by a lot.

Only if we KNOW and are united.

See, these forces are playing us, and they have been.

My mission, since I joined this forum, has been to raise awareness of this since the beginning.

I have failed. Everyone here LIKES arguing and playing partisan games more. They BELIEVE in the constructed paradigm of the ruling class.

Propaganda by Edward Bernays (1928)

Folks desperately want to cling to their reality.

 

[MisterBeale]

We have been given multiple opportunities to get out.

Remember Perot?

Remember Ron Paul?

There are reasons the establishment conditions folks to reject our potential altruistic visionary leaders.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MarathonMike]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

No. ..

They have AI now that is creating art and composing symphonies. It is doing music for TV and movies.

Yes I have heard robot created art and music but those are things that can just "be". That is different than designing a better robot, or one that can perform tasks the current robot cannot.

 

[Confounding]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

No. ..

They have AI now that is creating art and composing symphonies. It is doing music for TV and movies.

Yes I have heard robot created art and music but those are things that can just "be". That is different than designing a better robot, or one that can perform tasks the current robot cannot.

Abstract creativity is a bit different than practical creativity.

 

[WinterBorn]

The "robot" has been replacing workers for decades. Everyone gets mad about out-sourcing jobs overseas. But automation has cost us more jobs than all the out-sourcing.

And the automation is better and more efficient.

 

[WinterBorn]

reduce the need for low skilled labor.

It's not going to stop there.

"Somebody needs to fix the robot."

Given enough time AI and robotics will make humans all but entirely irrelevant for work. Eventually they won't need people to build and repair the robots because they will do it themselves. I think humans of the future will transcend the need for currency and be left to pursue hobbies/happiness.

Robots can be programmed to repair an existing robot or build a robot but I have yet to see the leap to creativity, i.e. design a better robot.

No. ..

They have AI now that is creating art and composing symphonies. It is doing music for TV and movies.

Yes I have heard robot created art and music but those are things that can just "be". That is different than designing a better robot, or one that can perform tasks the current robot cannot.

It is not as much creativity as you think. Robots will operate within certain programmed parameters. Change those parameters and an AI will adjust what the robot does to fit the new parameters. Hell, getting workers to change can be like pulling teeth.

 

[WinterBorn]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

Yes, universal income is inevitable. Maybe not for our lifetime. But it is coming. The overwhelming majority of jobs will be automated. Either people will starve or there will be some sort of universal income.

 

[Confounding]

We are speeding towards a wall. We can either find a way to turn or crash into it and suffer grievous injuries.

I think universal basic income is inevitable. The government will capitulate to the idea once they are faced with the alternative of societal collapse.

They won't do shit till the white collar jobs start being replaced by AI, or until folks are rioting.

I really think the Deep State wants folks to start rioting. It gives a great excuse for Martial Law.



Part of me thinks a lot of the corporate media has purposely been exaggerating the scope of the "immigrant crisis," so that when these societal displacements inevitably come, they have a tangible target to blame it on. It is an old canard for the ruling class.

I'm not saying there isn't truly a lawless illegal alien problem, but it is probably being purposely engineered. Once everyone has trouble finding work, the aliens will go home.

The Romans used it, and the fascists used it. This strategy of tension started with the election of Obama, they made sure it continued by giving Trump a platform, having the media give him so much airtime. Turning race against race, straight against gay, men against women, young against old, everything but the having to seek real solutions to intractable problems that are overwhelming the policy wonks.

They are looking at history here.

It is far easier to get society to turn on itself and declare martial law, than to have it turn on the elites and have an entire reordering of the system.

These elites like their positions of power. The only thing they want is a system where they get MORE power. They will never engineer a system that gives the people more freedom, fraternity, civil liberties and civil rights, and more economic and social equality. They don't give two shits about a real free market, crony capitalism and socialism for the rich has gotten them this far, why would they voluntarily surrender it now?

The sinister forces that pit us against each other will lose in the end because good outnumbers evil by a lot.

Only if we KNOW and are united.

See, these forces are playing us, and they have been.

My mission, since I joined this forum, has been to raise awareness of this since the beginning.

I have failed. Everyone here LIKES arguing and playing partisan games more. They BELIEVE in the constructed paradigm of the ruling class.

Propaganda by Edward Bernays (1928)

Folks desperately want to cling to their reality.

I realized a handful of years ago that almost nobody comes to places like this to learn, which is sad. We all have a lot of collective experience and knowledge, and I believe truly great conversations could take place if people could fuck off with their egos and pride a little bit.