The Horowitz Report: Yes, It Gets Worse

[imawhosure]

Sorry but a FISA attempting to spy on a presidential candidate should have been rock solid, there is no way the 17 mistakes uncovered should have occurred unless such mistakes were a common practice, or unless the mistakes were in fact intention in order to deceive the courts.

how can you spy on a presidential candidate by wiretapping some who left the campaign a month ago?

You posted this at least 20 times to muddy the water, and NEVER read any response. Are you INCOMPETENT!

When a FISA is issued, it does NOT go from that day forward, it goes from that day forward, and BACKWARDS, meaning---------------------->any person(s) that they have spoken to or corresponded with in the past, now is invoked under the two hop rule; meaning also------------------>that they have 1 hop AFTER the person that was corresponded with, to hop to.

If you doubt me, all you have to do is look up the statute, and if you want to make it easier than that, listen to what Barr said in his interview. He explains it perfectly.

Now then, if you EVER bring forth that red herring again, you show to be a PAID troll! I have given you the facts, told you how to access the facts in more ways than 1, and if you continue to blather about misinformation, then you show yourself to be either another lazy Leftist, or an out and out LIAR! How the rest of the forum paints you is up to them!

Thats a lot of words to not say much at all.

how do you wiretape retroactively?

conversations are not stored, only metadata, so at most FBI could have found out who Carter called and when.

Lol, e-mails, texts, and as you pointed out meta data.

Let me ask you something------------------>were you aware that if in ANY of my or your posts that the words ASSASINATE, Obama, Trump, or President anywhere in that post, the 5 eyes would be looking at it from meta data? (which means they will review this post, sometime within 24hrs. Sorry fellas and gals)

How do they do that?

I expect that if they want to follow up on me, they are going to want to know where I am. (I am going to be in Florida. Stop by law enforcement, have a Coke, and I will cook you a steak. I like law enforcement!)

Ummm, by the way, voice mails on your cellphone. You delete them correct? Did you know you really didn't, lol.

I don't know about you dude, but I am not worried. I don't think it is right they have access, but I hope you are clean as the wind driven snow, lol.

By the way, in case you didn't know, a burner phone doesn't help much. It just takes a few hrs longer-)

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

 

[AntonToo]

how can you spy on a presidential candidate by wiretapping some who left the campaign a month ago?

You posted this at least 20 times to muddy the water, and NEVER read any response. Are you INCOMPETENT!

When a FISA is issued, it does NOT go from that day forward, it goes from that day forward, and BACKWARDS, meaning---------------------->any person(s) that they have spoken to or corresponded with in the past, now is invoked under the two hop rule; meaning also------------------>that they have 1 hop AFTER the person that was corresponded with, to hop to.

If you doubt me, all you have to do is look up the statute, and if you want to make it easier than that, listen to what Barr said in his interview. He explains it perfectly.

Now then, if you EVER bring forth that red herring again, you show to be a PAID troll! I have given you the facts, told you how to access the facts in more ways than 1, and if you continue to blather about misinformation, then you show yourself to be either another lazy Leftist, or an out and out LIAR! How the rest of the forum paints you is up to them!

Thats a lot of words to not say much at all.

how do you wiretape retroactively?

conversations are not stored, only metadata, so at most FBI could have found out who Carter called and when.

Lol, e-mails, texts, and as you pointed out meta data.

Let me ask you something------------------>were you aware that if in ANY of my or your posts that the words ASSASINATE, Obama, Trump, or President anywhere in that post, the 5 eyes would be looking at it from meta data? (which means they will review this post, sometime within 24hrs. Sorry fellas and gals)

How do they do that?

I expect that if they want to follow up on me, they are going to want to know where I am. (I am going to be in Florida. Stop by law enforcement, have a Coke, and I will cook you a steak. I like law enforcement!)

Ummm, by the way, voice mails on your cellphone. You delete them correct? Did you know you really didn't, lol.

I don't know about you dude, but I am not worried. I don't think it is right they have access, but I hope you are clean as the wind driven snow, lol.

By the way, in case you didn't know, a burner phone doesn't help much. It just takes a few hrs longer-)

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

 

[imawhosure]

You posted this at least 20 times to muddy the water, and NEVER read any response. Are you INCOMPETENT!

When a FISA is issued, it does NOT go from that day forward, it goes from that day forward, and BACKWARDS, meaning---------------------->any person(s) that they have spoken to or corresponded with in the past, now is invoked under the two hop rule; meaning also------------------>that they have 1 hop AFTER the person that was corresponded with, to hop to.

If you doubt me, all you have to do is look up the statute, and if you want to make it easier than that, listen to what Barr said in his interview. He explains it perfectly.

Now then, if you EVER bring forth that red herring again, you show to be a PAID troll! I have given you the facts, told you how to access the facts in more ways than 1, and if you continue to blather about misinformation, then you show yourself to be either another lazy Leftist, or an out and out LIAR! How the rest of the forum paints you is up to them!

Thats a lot of words to not say much at all.

how do you wiretape retroactively?

conversations are not stored, only metadata, so at most FBI could have found out who Carter called and when.

Lol, e-mails, texts, and as you pointed out meta data.

Let me ask you something------------------>were you aware that if in ANY of my or your posts that the words ASSASINATE, Obama, Trump, or President anywhere in that post, the 5 eyes would be looking at it from meta data? (which means they will review this post, sometime within 24hrs. Sorry fellas and gals)

How do they do that?

I expect that if they want to follow up on me, they are going to want to know where I am. (I am going to be in Florida. Stop by law enforcement, have a Coke, and I will cook you a steak. I like law enforcement!)

Ummm, by the way, voice mails on your cellphone. You delete them correct? Did you know you really didn't, lol.

I don't know about you dude, but I am not worried. I don't think it is right they have access, but I hope you are clean as the wind driven snow, lol.

By the way, in case you didn't know, a burner phone doesn't help much. It just takes a few hrs longer-)

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

Again, my good man--------->that is because Horowitz could only investigate the DOJ! The DOJ does not include the CIA, or DNI!

I am here to tell you---------------->the FBI was FED the information. What, do you think they just found this stuff accidentally? Where it came from is the only discussion point on our side. Some say the CIA. Some say 5 eyes partners. Some say the Russians. Some say all of them.

Honestly, you really need look into this for your own information. To many partisans try to make this a left/right, issue. It isn't! This is about YOU, and your civil liberties, no matter where you live.

 

[AntonToo]

Thats a lot of words to not say much at all.

how do you wiretape retroactively?

conversations are not stored, only metadata, so at most FBI could have found out who Carter called and when.

Lol, e-mails, texts, and as you pointed out meta data.

Let me ask you something------------------>were you aware that if in ANY of my or your posts that the words ASSASINATE, Obama, Trump, or President anywhere in that post, the 5 eyes would be looking at it from meta data? (which means they will review this post, sometime within 24hrs. Sorry fellas and gals)

How do they do that?

I expect that if they want to follow up on me, they are going to want to know where I am. (I am going to be in Florida. Stop by law enforcement, have a Coke, and I will cook you a steak. I like law enforcement!)

Ummm, by the way, voice mails on your cellphone. You delete them correct? Did you know you really didn't, lol.

I don't know about you dude, but I am not worried. I don't think it is right they have access, but I hope you are clean as the wind driven snow, lol.

By the way, in case you didn't know, a burner phone doesn't help much. It just takes a few hrs longer-)

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

Again, my good man--------->that is because Horowitz could only investigate the DOJ! The DOJ does not include the CIA, or DNI!

I am here to tell you---------------->the FBI was FED the information. What, do you think they just found this stuff accidentally? Where it came from is the only discussion point on our side. Some say the CIA. Some say 5 eyes partners. Some say the Russians. Some say all of them.

Honestly, you really need look into this for your own information. To many partisans try to make this a left/right, issue. It isn't! This is about YOU, and your civil liberties, no matter where you live.

I'll make you a fair deal - as soon as there is serious evidence of that, I will seriously consider these charges. Untill then I will continue to call them baseless conspiracy theories.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

I believe the Steele dossier. It had little to do with FiSA warrant on Page.

You are 100% incorrect, and if you had actually read the IG Report or watched the live testimony of Horowitz you would know that. Starting on page 126 of the Report, last paragraph, Horowitz details that the application for the FISA warrant was drawn almost entirely from Steele's dirty dossier:

"The FISA request form drew almost entirely from Steele's reporting in describing the factual basis to establish probable cause to believe that Page was an agent of a foreign power, including the secret meeting between Carter Page and Divyekin alleged in Steele's Report 94 and the role of Page as an intermediary between Russia and the Trump campaign's then manager, Paul Manafort, in the 'well-developed conspiracy' alleged in Steele's Report 95."

A copy of the IG Report can be found on the DOJ website at this link: https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf (note: page 126 of the Report is page 164 of the linked PDF). Educate yourself.

 

[lennypartiv]

I believe the Steele dossier. It had little to do with FiSA warrant on Page.

Of course you do.

 

[imawhosure]

Lol, e-mails, texts, and as you pointed out meta data.

Let me ask you something------------------>were you aware that if in ANY of my or your posts that the words ASSASINATE, Obama, Trump, or President anywhere in that post, the 5 eyes would be looking at it from meta data? (which means they will review this post, sometime within 24hrs. Sorry fellas and gals)

How do they do that?

I expect that if they want to follow up on me, they are going to want to know where I am. (I am going to be in Florida. Stop by law enforcement, have a Coke, and I will cook you a steak. I like law enforcement!)

Ummm, by the way, voice mails on your cellphone. You delete them correct? Did you know you really didn't, lol.

I don't know about you dude, but I am not worried. I don't think it is right they have access, but I hope you are clean as the wind driven snow, lol.

By the way, in case you didn't know, a burner phone doesn't help much. It just takes a few hrs longer-)

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

Again, my good man--------->that is because Horowitz could only investigate the DOJ! The DOJ does not include the CIA, or DNI!

I am here to tell you---------------->the FBI was FED the information. What, do you think they just found this stuff accidentally? Where it came from is the only discussion point on our side. Some say the CIA. Some say 5 eyes partners. Some say the Russians. Some say all of them.

Honestly, you really need look into this for your own information. To many partisans try to make this a left/right, issue. It isn't! This is about YOU, and your civil liberties, no matter where you live.

I'll make you a fair deal - as soon as there is serious evidence of that, I will seriously consider these charges. Untill then I will continue to call them baseless conspiracy theories.

I accept that wholeheartedly! The way I see it, which you can claim is fair or unfair is----------------->you claimed Trump was a Russian stooge which was proven false.

I will NOT demand you see it my way because you did see Trump that way, but I will remind you that if you come out with egg on your face, that unless you are paid to do this, you wasted over 3 years of your life and energy, on a HOAX, that was pulled off by the same people you quoted to support your supposed evidence.

If I was fooled, how dumb would you say I was? If you were fooled, how dumb are you going to admit you were!

 

[Hellokitty]

Not sure where this goes with approval for FISA. If a review of past FISA warrants shows what Horowitz found were common mistakes made that should be reason enough to not continue FISA, but if reviews show these were not common mistakes made then it should be enough to conclude the mistakes were intentional and those involved should face charges.

you’ve got it backwards - problem is if the improprieties are common and the issue is systemic to FISA system.

If this is more or less isolated to FBI playing hardball with Carter because they trusted Steele’s work too much then the changes FBI is already making in the process will be sufficient.

Sorry but a FISA attempting to spy on a presidential candidate should have been rock solid, there is no way the 17 mistakes uncovered should have occurred unless such mistakes were a common practice, or unless the mistakes were in fact intention in order to deceive the courts.

how can you spy on a presidential candidate by wiretapping some who left the campaign a month ago?

You posted this at least 20 times to muddy the water, and NEVER read any response. Are you INCOMPETENT!

When a FISA is issued, it does NOT go from that day forward, it goes from that day forward, and BACKWARDS, meaning---------------------->any person(s) that they have spoken to or corresponded with in the past, now is invoked under the two hop rule; meaning also------------------>that they have 1 hop AFTER the person that was corresponded with, to hop to.

If you doubt me, all you have to do is look up the statute, and if you want to make it easier than that, listen to what Barr said in his interview. He explains it perfectly.

Now then, if you EVER bring forth that red herring again, you show to be a PAID troll! I have given you the facts, told you how to access the facts in more ways than 1, and if you continue to blather about misinformation, then you show yourself to be either another lazy Leftist, or an out and out LIAR! How the rest of the forum paints you is up to them!

Thats a lot of words to not say much at all.

how do you wiretape retroactively?

conversations are not stored, only metadata, so at most FBI could have found out who Carter called and when. In terms of political material, that’s less than a pot to piss in.

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Where are you getting the team decided to not get a FISA against Manafort? The FBI had a FISA on Manafort that expired and they had no new evidence to renew the previous warrant.

Either way Manafort was indicted on charges not associated with TRUMP or his campaign.

 

[AntonToo]

They could've gone through his emails, but again his role was foreign policy advisory, and not amajor one at that. He would not be expected to be involved in high level campaign strategy....unlike someone like Manafort for example, who the team descided NOT to pursue a warrant on.

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

Again, my good man--------->that is because Horowitz could only investigate the DOJ! The DOJ does not include the CIA, or DNI!

I am here to tell you---------------->the FBI was FED the information. What, do you think they just found this stuff accidentally? Where it came from is the only discussion point on our side. Some say the CIA. Some say 5 eyes partners. Some say the Russians. Some say all of them.

Honestly, you really need look into this for your own information. To many partisans try to make this a left/right, issue. It isn't! This is about YOU, and your civil liberties, no matter where you live.

I'll make you a fair deal - as soon as there is serious evidence of that, I will seriously consider these charges. Untill then I will continue to call them baseless conspiracy theories.

I accept that wholeheartedly! The way I see it, which you can claim is fair or unfair is----------------->you claimed Trump was a Russian stooge which was proven false.

I will NOT demand you see it my way because you did see Trump that way, but I will remind you that if you come out with egg on your face, that unless you are paid to do this, you wasted over 3 years of your life and energy, on a HOAX, that was pulled off by the same people you quoted to support your supposed evidence.

If I was fooled, how dumb would you say I was? If you were fooled, how dumb are you going to admit you were!

Trump is a Putin stooge thats for sure.

How else can you possibly describe someone who goes on TV to defend Putin killing journalists?

How else can you describe someone that constantly flatters Putin's "strong" leadership while not being able to utter a single criticism of Russia's effective oligarchy?

How else can you possibly describe someone who takes Putin's word over findings of American intelligence?

But if you are talking about me claiming that Trump criminally conspired with Russians in 2016 election, then you are wrong, I consistently deffered to Mueller's investigation to answer that querstion.

 

[Ame®icano]

It's getting worse for traitors.

Report: Durham Is Seeking John Brennan’s Emails And Call Logs

U.S Attorney John Durham is seeking the emails, call logs and other communications of former CIA Director John Brennan as part of a broad investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe, according to a report.

Durham Is Scrutinizing Ex-C.I.A. Director’s Role in Russian Interference Findings

The federal prosecutor scrutinizing the Russia investigation has begun examining the role of the former C.I.A. director John O. Brennan in how the intelligence community assessed Russia’s 2016 election interference, according to three people briefed on the inquiry.

 

[depotoo]

The IG can look at those "errors" as unbiased and innocent, but I'm sure that Barr, Durham, and a jury won't.

The IG twice now has stated he doesn’t know how they could be innocent. He said their stories did not add up, and just too much was found.

 

[Ame®icano]

The IG can look at those "errors" as unbiased and innocent, but I'm sure that Barr, Durham, and a jury won't.

The IG twice now has stated he doesn’t know how they could be innocent. He said their stories did not add up, and just too much was found.

If IG, who does not have subpoena and investigative powers could find that much about irregularities in FBI, think what Durham can find with those powers.

 

[depotoo]

On December 9, 2019, the United States Department of Justice released a PDF version of its report by Inspector General Michael Horowitz on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant applications against Carter Page, who had been a foreign policy adviser to then-presidential candidate Donald Trump. The IG Report contains several curiosities that deserve further explanation. Some background information is necessary to understand these curiosities.

You will see that

1) the FBI and DOJ appear to have deliberately and knowingly failed to monitor a British court case in which they knew that former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele, a defendant in the case, would be making statements regarding his so-called “dossier” that could affect the accuracy of the warrant applications,

2) the FBI and DOJ failed to tell the FISA Court in their June 2017 warrant application that Steele had admitted in the British court case that part of his “dossier” was unverified,

3) in a letter purporting to tell the FISA Court about material omissions from the warrant applications, the DOJ failed to tell the FISA Court about the omission from the June 2017 warrant application of Steele’s admission that part of his “dossier” was unverified,

4) the IG failed to tell the public about Steele’s admission that part of his “dossier” was unverified, and

5) the IG failed to tell the public about the DOJ’s failure in its letter to the FISA Court, to report the omission of Steele’s admission about part of his “dossier” being unverified....(leter to be admitted to by Steele that virtually NOTHING was verified!)

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ..

------------

All of this based on hearsay and no evidence. A truly Dangerous and UNETHICAL precedent. The DemonRAT Party has been taken over by Americas ENEMIES!!!!!

meanwhile back in reality the report found that the investigation into the Cheeto stained blob was fully warranted and no bias existed in the investigation

FBI -- Michael Horowitz Pushes Back on Claim that He Exonerated FBI of Political Bias | National Review

 

[depotoo]

The IG can look at those "errors" as unbiased and innocent, but I'm sure that Barr, Durham, and a jury won't.

The IG twice now has stated he doesn’t know how they could be innocent. He said their stories did not add up, and just too much was found.

If IG, who does not have subpoena and investigative powers could find that much about irregularities in FBI, think what Durham can find with those powers.

I agree. Can’t wait to see that report.

 

[Ame®icano]

meanwhile back in reality the report found that the investigation into the Cheeto stained blob was fully warranted and no bias existed in the investigation

That is not what he said at all.

 

[depotoo]

Dude, you don't get it!

The warrant was not to get him, it was to cover their tracks after the fact!

LOOK at when the warrant was issued. Look at when the FISA was issued!

It doesn't take a genius to figure out what was going on!

And I am here to tell you---------------------> Page was with CARSON before Trump. This whole thing was a spying on Republicans deal, Carson, Cruz, and Trump. That is why it is called Spygate, and not Trumpgate!

I am not going to relish in the fact you are going to get smoked by this in the end, which will be long before November of 2020. I am just hoping some of you people are honest brokers, and realize that stuff like this just can NEVER happen, or we are all screwed.

...and now you've gone straight into grand conspiracy theory land.

Nothing in Horowitz's year and half long investigation found any surveillance prior to proper FISA court warrant authorization. Such a finding would be a huge bombshell and people would go to jail for such blatant criminal acts.

Again, my good man--------->that is because Horowitz could only investigate the DOJ! The DOJ does not include the CIA, or DNI!

I am here to tell you---------------->the FBI was FED the information. What, do you think they just found this stuff accidentally? Where it came from is the only discussion point on our side. Some say the CIA. Some say 5 eyes partners. Some say the Russians. Some say all of them.

Honestly, you really need look into this for your own information. To many partisans try to make this a left/right, issue. It isn't! This is about YOU, and your civil liberties, no matter where you live.

I'll make you a fair deal - as soon as there is serious evidence of that, I will seriously consider these charges. Untill then I will continue to call them baseless conspiracy theories.

I accept that wholeheartedly! The way I see it, which you can claim is fair or unfair is----------------->you claimed Trump was a Russian stooge which was proven false.

I will NOT demand you see it my way because you did see Trump that way, but I will remind you that if you come out with egg on your face, that unless you are paid to do this, you wasted over 3 years of your life and energy, on a HOAX, that was pulled off by the same people you quoted to support your supposed evidence.

If I was fooled, how dumb would you say I was? If you were fooled, how dumb are you going to admit you were!

Trump is a Putin stooge thats for sure.

How else can you possibly describe someone who goes on TV to defend Putin killing journalists?

How else can you describe someone that constantly flatters Putin's "strong" leadership while not being able to utter a single criticism of Russia's effective oligarchy?

How else can you possibly describe someone who takes Putin's word over findings of American intelligence?

But if you are talking about me claiming that Trump criminally conspired with Russians in 2016 election, then you are wrong, I consistently deffered to Mueller's investigation to answer that querstion.

Only in your fantasies, dear.

 

[depotoo]

Wow, you lefties are something else.

Fuck facts....I HAVE MY TRUTH!

Do you guys still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny?

You do not have your truth, being non collaborated is not to say it never happened. Did you really expect Page or Tramp to say anything different.

did you even read the Dossier??

Honey, you do realize Page was actually a cia asset, right? Lol

 

[Billiejeens]

I believe the Steele dossier. It had little to do with FiSA warrant on Page.

I laugh
Totally false

 

[candycorn]

meanwhile back in reality the report found that the investigation into the Cheeto stained blob was fully warranted and no bias existed in the investigation

That is not what he said at all.

Who did he say was biased when they were investigating your blob? Just give us a name

 

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The IG can look at those "errors" as unbiased and innocent, but I'm sure that Barr, Durham, and a jury won't.

The IG twice now has stated he doesn’t know how they could be innocent. He said their stories did not add up, and just too much was found.

If IG, who does not have subpoena and investigative powers could find that much about irregularities in FBI, think what Durham can find with those powers.

I agree. Can’t wait to see that report.

If Durham is already at the Brennan and Clapper level, there's no much left to find out the origins and people behind it. Unlike Horowitz, Durham doesn't have to ask or beg for an interview or document, he has power to force it.