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What does that have to do with this legislation?
They are not playing with numbers; they are using them to restrict immigration.
Trump is relevant because he is telling his congressional supporters to reject the bill.
Sort of like a shadow president.
They do what he says or he will order you to primary them.
I posted the link. Trump tired it and the judge rejected it.
This is why we need legislation.
He can not ignore them.
The bill mandates action.
What legislation? There is nothing more than a proposal that Speaker Johnson has already said is inadequate.
Post a link to the law vacated by the judge. Post a link to the revised law.
I’m telling Trump what he is to tell his supporters. I’m feeling very important, almost like a shadow president.
Biden ignores existing law. Why must he obey new laws.
Yes. It is. Your response is odd.Bills mandate action? That’s nice.
The legislation we have been discussing the last few hours.
Yes. That is part of the discussion. Republicans don't want to pass immigration legislation and trump is telling his supporters, including Johnson, to reject it.
The law wasn't revised. Trump's law was rejected. Read the link.
Not sure what you mean but certainly Trump, an unelected citizen, is dictating to his supporters in Congress to reject the legislation.
Call it what you will buy shadow president seems apt to me.
You keep saying that.
What law is he breaking?
Yes. It is. Your response is odd.
Republicans have previously submitted border legislation. Do your homework.
Correct. As stated to you, there were no changes to existing US code regarding it being illegal to enter the country outside of ports of entry.
Trump can make all the dictates he chooses. So can you. Issue a dictate to the House demanding they accept new laws that the Dems / Marxist will ignore. You will feel better about yourself for being a shadow president.
Biden is breaking existing immigration law. A description is in the US code previously cited. Give me a number. How many more times does the code need to be posted?
What’s odd? It’s been explained quite a few times already. Layers of laws being ignored by the Dems / Marxists wil not be remedied by layers of new laws. The corrupt, unethical Dems / Marxists are ignoring current law. New layers of laws won’t cause corrupt, unethical Dems / Marxists to obey new laws.
Sure. Feel free.I suppose I’ll have to spend more time writing out the same theme that the Dems / Marxists are ignoring current immigration law so adding more laws they will ignore is just throwing money at a problem the Dems / Marxists will continue to exploit. Have you understood that current immigration laws are being ignored by Dems / Marxists?
I understand this.
Trump lost. That legislation was simply a reimplementation of Trump's policies.
That is not good faith legislation.
I know, and based on that code the judge determined Trump could not dictate asylum claims can only occur at points of entry.
I don't have the political support to primary any who apposes my requests.
So all presidents have violated that code.
Right?
So why should we accept any legislation if all presidents have broke those same laws?
Is that your answer? Give up?
Sure. Feel free.
Have you understood that all presidents have broken those laws as you present them?
Have you also noted that no president has been convicted or impeached for violating the laws you claim so unless you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty, your point is moot?
No judge rejected trump or any president from shutting down the borderWhat does that have to do with this legislation?
They are not playing with numbers; they are using them to restrict immigration.
Trump is relevant because he is telling his congressional supporters to reject the bill.
Sort of like a shadow president.
They do what he says or he will order you to primary them.
I posted the link. Trump tired it and the judge rejected it.
This is why we need legislation.
He can not ignore them.
The bill mandates action.
The senate proposal is not by any means a reimplementation of Trump’s policies.
The Dems / Marxists are not making any good faith proposals.
You’re still not understanding that there were no changes made to the immigration code.
You spend too much time focusing on Trump.
“… but … but… but…but what about…” is not an argument. It is Biden who has intentionally and explicitly imported millions of illegals and is setting the scenario for terrorist attacks. Not surprisingly, the most likely targets of those terrorists attacks will be major urban centers such as the Dem / Marxist run cities.
Have you noticed that no president has willfully violated immigration laws with the express intent of flooding this country with illegals? Have you noticed that Mayorkas is currently facing articles of impeachment?
Why? He approves of the legislation presented to curb immigration.Have you considered that upon a really devastating terrorist attack, Biden may well face impeachment.
Trump wasn't rejected because of COVID. That was the emergency.No judge rejected trump or any president from shutting down the border
Border Crisis Shows The Establishment's Contempt For Democracy
The immigration crisis is now the No. 1 concern of voters. So why is no one in D.C. interested in holding Biden accountable?thefederalist.com
Biden has the power to end this crisis without additional legislation. He just needs to do it. Of course, he had done nothing for the past 3 years, so there is no reason to think he is serious now.
Yes it was. It was all the same stuff including the wall.
Yes they are. The legislation would reduce immigration. If Republicans wish to compromise, let us see their input.
As it looks, it is outright rejected as Trump is pushing
I do understand. The existing code was not changed and was used for n the judges rejection of Trump's attempt to illegally apply logistical standards to asylum claims.
Trump's is a key figure in this. He is literally speaking with his supporters in Congress and telling them to reject the bill.
Of course he is a focus.
Like all presidents. Right?
According to you all presidents have violated immigration law. Please cite a president who has not violated the law as you presented it.
Why? He approves of the legislation presented to curb immigration.
Those that listen to Trump's orders would be more likely to fall under your illegal criterion based on inaction.
No. It was not the same stuff.
No. Adding layers of laws over existing laws that Biden refuses to enforce will not reduce illegal immigration.
Republicans have already introduced an immigration reform package. Obviously, the Dems / Marxists rejected it because there were clear limits placed on immigration.
In your world, Trump is an omnipresent key figure in all of this.
According to you, you are inventing comments I haven’t made. According to you, Dems / Marxists have an entitlement to erase borders. What other president has abandoned a US border?
Ah. So three years of open borders grants the Dems / Marxists a mulligan for responsibility of a terrorist attack because you now believe they are proposing a border bill.
He is stating it publically. He is the leader of the Republican party.Who is Trump ordering? You seem to have a rather unhealthy obsession with Trump. I must pass on to you that at this moment, Trump is circling overhead in a black helicopter. Don’t look up.
Very similar.
Existing ones allow asylum claims, VISA abuse and incentivise businesses to hire illegals to maximize prophets.
They rejected it because it emulated Trump's policies including his wall.
Trump lost.
Omnipresent is an exaggeration but yeah he is an important component.
He is telling his supporters in Congress how to vote.
If they don't oney Trump he will direct his followers to vote them out of the primaries with someone who Trump decides.
Is this incorrect? Why would you attempt to marginalize Trump's involvement?
All of them according to your criteria.
Which of those laws applies to Biden but not to the last few modern presidents.
Be specific please.
They are proposing a border bill.
The borders were not open and are not open.
He is stating it publically. He is the leader of the Republican party.
Not even “very similar”.
it’s been addressed repeatedly. Laws are meaningless to the corrupt Dems / Socialists.
They rejected it because it placed limits on the importation of illegals.
Layers of laws on top of laws the Dems / Marxists refuse to enforce is meaningless.
You spend too much time obsessing over Trump.
Then how come all these immigrants can simply claim asylum?The Dems / Marxists are begging for more taxpayer money when they already have the means and methods to control illegal immigration.
The border is open, obviously.
They are to Republicans too. Denying SCOTUS rulings. Bypassing courts to take guns. Seditious conspiracy. Socialism.
It's crazy.
Because having no caps is better?
Trump is the shadow president and ruler of the Republican party. He is directly related to this topic.
Then how come all these immigrants can simply claim asylum?
"Whataboutism" much?
The Dems / Marxists want no caps to ilkegals. The faster they can import illegals, the more strident case they will make for mass amnesty and citizenship. It's about the Dems / Marxists importing a welfare class of voters.
Shadow president? You mean Obama.
All these migrants don't claim asylum. I gave you a link to Biden's border app. The app asks not a single question about asylum.
The legislation would grant him that power.Biden has stated he will "shut the border tomorrow" if congress gives him boatloads of money by passing the senate slush fund. The pompous dreg literally announced he could shut the border down but won't. He want boatloads of money to accelerate his import of illegals.
Not usually but I felt it prudent to point out your hypocrisy in regards to a party not following the constitution.
Their are caps in the legislation you are against.
"Whataboutism" much?
Obama is not actively directing members of Congress and threatening primarying them.
He doesn't have that kind of party influence. Trump does.
Yeah. Many overstay VISAs. But way to many claim asylum. A cap would lower those requests.
How come you don't support that?
The legislation would grant him that power.
Also, their were conditions attached to that statement.
What hypocrisy? I was pointing out the lies and deceit of the Dem / Socialists demanding more money to secure the border when money is not the issue.
What caps? More layers of laws over existing laws ignored by the Dems / Socialists means caps are irrelevant.
Obama has made public statements about Sloppy Joe's performance and appears to be actively trying to influence the Dems / Socialists.
Caps are meaningless. Biden ignores existing immigration laws. More layers of laws on top of laws he already ignores will change nothing.
Migrants have no need to claim asylum. I gave you a link to Biden's border app. The app asks not a single question about asylum.
There are approx. 1.2 million migrants with removal orders. The Dems / Socialists are doing virtually nothing to enforce those orders.
He will shut it down if the conditions in the legislation are met.Biden has stated he will "shut the border tomorrow" if congress gives him boatloads of money by passing the senate slush fund. The pompous dreg literally announced he could shut the border down but won't. He wants boatloads of money to accelerate his import of illegals
Democrats are lawless. This thread is about the total abandonment by the Dems / Socialists of any effort to enforce existing immigration law.You were talking about how Democrats are lawless and don't follow the constitution seemingly oblivious to that going on the right.
It's in the legislation. You should check it out.
So? Will he or can he threaten to primary them?
Caps willower immigration.
You speak for asylum seekers now?
Link please.
He will shut it down if the conditions in the legislation are met.
