The Incontrovertible Science and Mathematics of God's Existence

[sealybobo]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

Nothing + nothing should = nothing, but in the case of our universe it happened.

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

There was something before the big bang true. But why a god?

 

[Moonglow]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

Nothing + nothing should = nothing, but in the case of our universe it happened.

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

There was something before the big bang true. But why a god?

With Semitic overtones.

 

[sealybobo]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

Can't be since models have shown that the universe will contract and implode itself. God is not the creator to anyone but those with a very limited scope.

If there is a god this isn’t his only universe and we certainly aren’t his only children.

 

[sealybobo]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

Nothing + nothing should = nothing, but in the case of our universe it happened.

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

There was something before the big bang true. But why a god?

With Semitic overtones.

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god. The war against zeus and apollo.

 

[sealybobo]

Observable

Hilbert's hotel room argument squashed the singularity argument or did you not observe that?

How? Sum it up.

 

[sealybobo]

Can't be since models have shown that the universe will contract and implode itself. God is not the creator to anyone but those with a very limited scope.

C'mon both Georges Lemaitre and Edwin Hubble showed an expanding and accelerating universe.

For now. Doesn’t mean it will forever.

 

[Moonglow]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

Nothing + nothing should = nothing, but in the case of our universe it happened.

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

There was something before the big bang true. But why a god?

With Semitic overtones.

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god. The war against zeus and apollo.

About the time they stopped doing animal sacrifices.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

 

[sealybobo]

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.

What caused gods to begin to exist?

So you barely regarded the contents of the OP, eh? Just like a dog "you went all squirrel!" when you saw the term sufficient cause and went off into la-la land where things just pop into existence from an ontological nothingness. Magic!

Then you can't answer his simple question.

The question is absurd. God did not begin to exist. Read the OP.

Humans evolved in the last 200,000 years after a 13 billion year process.

The bible says god poofed all land creatures into existence. In 7 days. And people today still follow this ancient religion. Every error can be explained away. And religions evolve. Today gays can marry and blacks can marry whites. Some Christians even believe in evolution. They don’t take the Bible’s literally. Cherry pickers. Every bs story was just an allegory except jesus story. That really happened.

Do Christians claim jews are liars? Because they were there and say Jesus was no messiah. Did not happen. They’re still waiting

 

[Moonglow]

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.

What caused gods to begin to exist?

So you barely regarded the contents of the OP, eh? Just like a dog "you went all squirrel!" when you saw the term sufficient cause and went off into la-la land where things just pop into existence from an ontological nothingness. Magic!

Then you can't answer his simple question.

The question is absurd. God did not begin to exist. Read the OP.

Humans evolved in the last 200,000 years after a 13 billion year process.

The bible says god poofed all land creatures into existence. In 7 days. And people today still follow this ancient religion. Every error can be explained away. And religions evolve. Today gays can marry and blacks can marry whites. Some Christians even believe in evolution. They don’t take the Bible’s literally. Cherry pickers. Every bs story was just an allegory except jesus story. That really happened.

Do Christians claim jews are liars? Because they were there and say Jesus was no messiah. Did not happen. They’re still waiting

It is just like how the Egyptian Egyptologist claim there is no record of the Hebrews being slaves and of the event in the Bible where Moses and God intervened for their liberation.

 

[sealybobo]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

Imagine where we would be today if instead of Christianity we pushed truth logic science and reason.

No wars

We’d be mining Mars not our precious planet

No poverty. Only lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, rich, really rich, really really rich, really really really rich, etc. Same as now just no poverty.

There would be no man made global warming

Abortions would be rare because people can afford to have kids. But still abortion would be legal.

Less poverty means less crime so crime would be rare.

Everyone could afford to retire at age 65

No one would die or be bankrupt because they didn’t have insurance.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

Imagine where we would be today if instead of Christianity we pushed truth logic science and reason.

No wars

We’d be mining Mars not our precious planet

No poverty. Only lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, rich, really rich, really really rich, really really really rich, etc. Same as now just no poverty.

There would be no man made global warming

Abortions would be rare because people can afford to have kids. But still abortion would be legal.

Less poverty means less crime so crime would be rare.

Everyone could afford to retire at age 65

No one would die or be bankrupt because they didn’t have insurance.

Instead we have Presidents invading Muslim countries because "god said so".

 

[Ringtone]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

Can't be since models have shown that the universe will contract and implode itself. God is not the creator to anyone but those with a very limited scope.

If there is a god this isn’t his only universe and we certainly aren’t his only children.

That does not follow at all.

 

[sealybobo]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

Imagine where we would be today if instead of Christianity we pushed truth logic science and reason.

No wars

We’d be mining Mars not our precious planet

No poverty. Only lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, rich, really rich, really really rich, really really really rich, etc. Same as now just no poverty.

There would be no man made global warming

Abortions would be rare because people can afford to have kids. But still abortion would be legal.

Less poverty means less crime so crime would be rare.

Everyone could afford to retire at age 65

No one would die or be bankrupt because they didn’t have insurance.

Instead we have Presidents invading Muslim countries because "god said so".

Yes bush said god told him to invade Iraq.

Lets not forget he was just as bad as trump. So will the next republican be just as bad. They’ll try to portray him as better but he will still be told what to do by ALEC and the Heritage foundation.

 

[sealybobo]

Can you put that into a mathematical equation? Or at least quantify it?

0 + 0 =

I think it's evidence that there was something before the big bang -- the creator God.

Can't be since models have shown that the universe will contract and implode itself. God is not the creator to anyone but those with a very limited scope.

If there is a god this isn’t his only universe and we certainly aren’t his only children.

That does not follow at all.

Stop putting god in your tiny little box. You’re like a tardigrade that can’t see outside his drop of water.

 

[Ringtone]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

Imagine where we would be today if instead of Christianity we pushed truth logic science and reason.

No wars

We’d be mining Mars not our precious planet

No poverty. Only lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, rich, really rich, really really rich, really really really rich, etc. Same as now just no poverty.

There would be no man made global warming

Abortions would be rare because people can afford to have kids. But still abortion would be legal.

Less poverty means less crime so crime would be rare.

Everyone could afford to retire at age 65

No one would die or be bankrupt because they didn’t have insurance.

Your historical ignorance is showing. You better zip that up. Christians devised the scientific method.

 

[sealybobo]

Imagine the time when the preachers of the world decided to end the notion there was more than one god.

Unfortunately, those assholes also decided to put an end to Hellenistic and Socratic thought, ushering in the dark ages. The Muslims saw that and thought, "That seems nice!", and followed suit.

Imagine where we would be today if instead of Christianity we pushed truth logic science and reason.

No wars

We’d be mining Mars not our precious planet

No poverty. Only lower middle class, middle class, upper middle class, rich, really rich, really really rich, really really really rich, etc. Same as now just no poverty.

There would be no man made global warming

Abortions would be rare because people can afford to have kids. But still abortion would be legal.

Less poverty means less crime so crime would be rare.

Everyone could afford to retire at age 65

No one would die or be bankrupt because they didn’t have insurance.

Your historical ignorance is showing. You better zip that up. Christians devised the scientific method.

I think Socrates did 300 years bc.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think Socrates did 300 years bc.

Correct. And the Christians destroyed his work and legacy for over 1000 years. It was once we experienced secular enlightenment did we again discover the value of the scientific method. We literally began adhering to the method again IN SPITE OF Christianity. Mankind had to dig out from under the pall of magical religious horseshit that held him back for 1500 years in order to begin the modern era of scientific advancement.

We have reached the point where Ringtone the fraud is now just making stuff up. He does this because, when others have to do the exercise of sorting out his made up lies and debunking them, they don't actually get to make any of their own points. It's the Alamo tactic for frauds who have nothing else to offer, after their overblown, amateurish arguments are all diminished. He will keep doing this. Just watch. Then people will get tired of sifting through the steaming piles he pinches off and bow out. Then, he declares victory.

Rinse, repeat.

 

[sealybobo]

I think Socrates did 300 years bc.

Correct. And the Christians destroyed his work and legacy for over 1000 years. It was once we experienced secular enlightenment did we again discover the value of the scientific method. We literally began adhering to the method again IN SPITE OF Christianity. Mankind had to dig out from under the pall of magical religious horseshit that held him back for 1500 years in order to begin the modern era of scientific advancement.

We have reached the point where Ringtone the fraud is now just making stuff up. He does this because, when others have to do the exercise of sorting out his made up lies and debunking them, they don't actually get to make any of their own points. It's the Alamo tactic for frauds who have nothing else to offer, after their overblown, amateurish arguments are all diminished. He will keep doing this. Just watch. Then people will get tired of sifting through the steaming piles he pinches off and bow out. Then, he declares victory.

Rinse, repeat.

Christians cherry picked science. If it was science that comes up with cures, they accept and even take credit for that science. But if the science proves evolution or anything else that contradicts the Bible, they ignore that stuff.

Reminds me of Christians who owned slaves in the 1800s. They said blacks weren’t humans. What science told them that? Because scientifically, they are just like us whites, asians, Arabs, blonde Scandinavians, etc. yet Christians back then believed what the Bible said. Didn’t it call blacks beasts or something like that?

 

[Hollie]

The question is absurd. God did not begin to exist. Read the OP.

I have to say the ID creationer "... because I say so'', argument has such merit. How could anyone disagree?